HomeComplaintsCashalot Casino - Player’s bonus winnings have been reduced.

Cashalot Casino - Player’s bonus winnings have been reduced.

Amount: €500

Cashalot Casino
Safety Index:Very low
Submitted: 10 Sep 2021 | Resolved : 03 Oct 2021
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Case summary

3 years ago

The player from Germany had his bonus winnings capped. The issue was successfully resolved, the player received his winnings.

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3 years ago
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i made my first deposit at cashalot and accepted a 200 percent deposit bonus and deposited 100 euros (100 euros real money and 200 euros bonus)


there was no indication of a max cashout of the bonus, nor did i find anything in the bonus conditions.

casino guru also writes max withdraw: unlimited


after successful implementation I won 3600 euros this was set to 500 euros which I can now pay out.

so 3100 euro was simply canceled for me.


The worst is actually that I had a 1000x hit with my real money, the 100 euros, which brought me 4000 euros, at no point did I touch the bonus.

since there was no indication of a max cashout and the profit was with real money (200 euro bonus was not used) i feel cheated.


unfortunately only stakes and winnings are shown in the bet history but not the account balance that you had at the time.

but i did a screenshoot immediately after the implementation was completed, where i was on 3600 euros and the bonus was implemented.

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3 years ago

Dear fowi30,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. I have checked the general bonus terms and conditions, and this is what I found https://cashalot.bet/terms-and-conditions:


"16.10.2.3. There may be restrictions on the amount of bonus withdrawals. The standard bonus withdrawal limit is 200% of the bonus received. This percentage may change from time to time, so be sure to contact website customer service each time to check the limit on a particular bonus."


I would like to emphasize, that according to our Fair Gambling Codex https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-casinos#win-limits, we consider imposed win limit to be unfair and predator, only when it’s applied to a real money game, however, we accept bonus T&Cs that restrict the maximum cash out from a bonus play.


Could you please advise if your withdrawal of €500 has been received already?


Please let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked, but I’m afraid I will be forced to reject your complaint as unjustified. I wish I could be of more help. Thank you in advance for your reply and understanding.

Best regards,

Petronela

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3 years ago
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The casino does not have live chat to ask customer service about max cashout.


I have not yet applied for the payment of 500 euros because I do not agree to this max cashout. If I pay out now, I will automatically forego my winnings of 3000 euros.


there was no specific information about the max cashout of the bonus, neither in the description of the promo nor in the bonus terms and conditions.


The standard bonus withdrawal limit is 200% of the bonus received. This percentage can change from time to time.


this is not a clear statement


why does casino guru say cashalot first deposit bonus max payout: unlimited?

that's wrong then


In addition, the win was with my 100 euro real money. The 200 euro bonus balance was never played


First of all, it is played with real money and when it is used up then the bonus is on it is also stated in the terms


The bonus conditions also state that you can cancel your bonus if you win with real money, but I couldn't find an option for it.


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16.10.2.1. A bonus is credited to the bonus balance. When using an activated bonus, the real money from the player account is used first and only then the bonus money, unless otherwise stated. Each user has the right to use only one bonus within a bonus campaign, the use of two promotional codes of the same type is considered to be an abuse of the rules and will result in the cancellation of the bonus.

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3 years ago

I fully understand your point of view, fowi30. However, please understand casinos consider real and bonus money to be one package from the point a promotional offer has been activated and by cancelling the offer, all the winnings are usually ceased. 


As I mentioned earlier, it is nothing unusual to have maximum cash out applied to a bonus play. Please understand that if the information about maximum cash out is displayed in the T&Cs there's nothing, we can do to change it. I agree that it would be ideal to have a specific amount, that a player will be entitled to, clearly advertised next to each promotional offer, however, if this information is not included in each offer then the general rules prevail.


Let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked otherwise, I will be forced to reject your complaint at this time. I really wish I were of more help. Thank you.


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3 years ago
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why does cashalot first deposit bonus max payout say: unlimited

I also orientated myself on that and in the terms I overlooked the 200 percent maximum payment of the bonus


you have corrected it in the middle it is now 2x bonus amount only unfortunately too late for me I have now lost over 3000 euros

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3 years ago

I'm sorry, fowi30. The bonus on our website is 100% up to €200.

https://casino.guru/cashalot-casino-review#tab=js-tab-bonuses


Do I understand correctly that you have redeemed 200% promotional offer?

"i made my first deposit at cashalot and accepted a 200 percent deposit bonus and deposited 100 euros (100 euros real money and 200 euros bonus)"


It looks as they are two different bonuses. I have updated our review as soon as I published your complaint to have all the information on our website up to date. However, it seems as you haven't activated the promotional offer through our website. We currently have over 3,000 casinos in our database. We put a lot of effort into keeping the reviews up to date, but it is a difficult task.


However, please understand that T&Cs always prevail. I wish I could be of more help but unfortunately, there's not much we can do for you.

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3 years ago
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yes it was a bonus of 200 percent that i received. but also for this 100 percent bonus the max 2xbonus payout usually applies as it is in the terms of the casino

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3 years ago

Yes, the general bonus terms and conditions apply to all the promotional offers unless stated otherwise.

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3 years ago
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Isn't that predatory max 2x payment of the bonus is a joke, this is not a no deposit bonus, I paid for it it is an extremely important piece of information for me

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3 years ago

I understand that maximum cash out 2x bonus value isn’t the best promotional offer out there. However, each bonus has its pluses and minuses and it will never be the same as if you played with the real money. 


Let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked otherwise, I will be forced to reject your complaint at this time. I really wish I were of more help. Thank you.

 

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3 years ago
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the casino is the only payment method that offers credit cards.


It is usually a matter of course and my right that the casino must ensure that with the method of how you deposit you can also withdraw it.


I deposited with mifinity ewallet and never experienced that when I deposited with mifinity that I could not withdraw with mifinity.


I don't have a credit card and don't want to buy one just for a single payout.

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3 years ago

Please understand, fowi30, that the variety and accessibility of payment methods are not managed by the casino exclusively. Several factors as the Licensing Authority, geolocation, and contracts with the payment providers, and bank restrictions, all have a major influence. If a payment method was available for deposits, it doesn’t mean necessarily, that it will be offered for withdrawals too, also it can be discontinued at any time. Unfortunately, casinos are sometimes powerless and limited in offering payment methods to their customers.

 

Could you please advise if you have been informed about any alternative method to withdraw your winnings? 

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3 years ago
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yes credit card or via crypto would be possible I don't have either.

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3 years ago

If you have been advised by the casino to use a Bitcoin e-wallet, I would recommend opening a Bitcoin account. It is fast, safe and you can always convert bitcoin to cash and ultimately move it to a bank account. There is a lot of online articles available, where you can learn how it works and decide if it would be convenient for you (e.g https://www.bitcoin.com/get-started/how-to-get-started-with-bitcoin/) Please let me know how you decided and we will agree on how to pursue this case.  I hope we will be able to help you to receive your winnings as soon as possible. 

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3 years ago
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i have no interest in bitcoin


if I had known beforehand that I could only withdraw using these methods, I would never have paid.


I've also never seen that when you deposit with mifinity that you can no longer pay out with it.


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3 years ago

I'm truly sorry, fowi30, but as I mentioned earlier, casinos are sometimes powerless and limited in offering payment methods to their customers.


If you have been informed about alternative methods to receive your winnings, please follow the casino's instructions.

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3 years ago
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I have set up a crypto wallet and sent the casino proof that it is my wallet


I asked you to pay out to my crypto wallet


no answer yet

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3 years ago

Thank you very much that you have set up the crypto wallet. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

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3 years ago

Hi fowi30,

I'm taking over your complaint. Has there been any news regarding your withdrawal?

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3 years ago
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I can't make a payout as only credit card is available as a payout method on the payout page. But live chat has already assured me that I can also pay out via bitcoin wallet. Nothing has happened so far, I have already sent docs of my wallet and bitcoin address to the casino .

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3 years ago

I understand, let's wait a few more days then and see if you get paid.

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3 years ago
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Sensitive information

This post has been made private by Casino Guru. It contains sensitive information meant to be seen only by the involved parties.

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3 years ago

Hi fowi30,

Thanks for the update. I wonder how it is even possible to make such a mistake. I will contact the casino and see if I can help. I would like to invite Cashalot Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.

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3 years ago
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profit was paid out

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3 years ago

Hi fowi30,

I'm glad to hear that you received your funds. I will now mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution center. Don’t hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future. 

Best regards,

Peter

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