HomeComplaintsManhattan Slots Casino - Player requests refund after account closure due to gambling addiction.

Manhattan Slots Casino - Player requests refund after account closure due to gambling addiction.

Black points: 3000

Amount: $6,000

Manhattan Slots Casino
Safety Index:High
Submitted: 20 Jun 2024 | Unresolved : 12 Aug 2024
Unresolved Our verdict

Failed self-exclusion

UNRESOLVED

Case summary

1 month ago

The player from Washington disclosed a gambling addiction and mental health issues to the casino, asking them to close her account, but the casino instead offered bonuses and delayed the closure. Eventually, she lost over $6,000 after reopening her account. Despite multiple requests for self-exclusion and refunds, the casino denied any wrongdoing, stating they had followed proper procedures. We at Casino.Guru firmly believed the account should not have been reopened and recommended the player contact the Curacao Gaming Authority for further assistance. The complaint was marked as unresolved.

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2 months ago

I can't believe how high the railing on this casino is. It almost makes me think they are paying this forum. They are blacklisted almost everywhere else.

Long story short, I have played with this casino for over two years. I Am diagnosed O.C.D. with compulsive gambling disorder. I have paperwork to prove it. I developed an online gambling problem and disclosed this with Manhattan slots in 2022, asking for them to close my account and block me so I couldn't make a deposit I told them that I was suicidal, and that I HAVE OCD with a gambling problem. They offered me a bonus chip instead, and took over a week to close my account. During this week i sent them several emails to remind them to close my account since apparently you're not allowed to complete such action through chat. When they finally did, I was able to quit for a while and easily open my account and up my limit that was in place any time I wanted to. Just recently after quitting for a few months, I got really stressed out and played there. I deposited back to back without stopping $100 deposits one at a time, until over 6,000 was gone. I couldn't stop, (and those of you who don't understand, it's an impulse that people that have the addiction cannot control. Sometimes we gamble to escape stress, guilt, anxiety, and other reason but it just creates more.). anyway I couldn't stop until it was gone. $100 deposits back to back consecutively, until over $6,000 was gone. it might even have been more. Not once knowing my mental health issues and gambling addiction, not to mention easily allowing me to come back after self excluding, they did not do anything to intervene, nor did they stop my deposits from occurring. I connected to a cashier in chat, and reminded him of my addiction, and OCD and that I was so upset that I kept losing. The cashier tried to relate by saying his wife had same disorder, and offered me a free chip. I lost. In fact out of all that money and the bonuses i accepted, I only came up just barely over 1,000 2x and not anywhere close after that. Another thing with my compulsive disorder, I don't cashout. I am sure you were wondering or thinking that you bet I wouldn't have wanted a refund if I were to win, but that's the problem. Even if I was winning, I can't control myself when gambling, and when I tell you this, I mean I REALLY CANNOT CONTROL my impulses when gambling. SO I don't stop until i lose it all. Which brings me to another point. They definitely have rigged their slot games because out of all that money and I only came close to 1,000 twice in the same sitting, as it went up down and up and down again to zero. All the other times that I played my deposit got sucked up so quick not even a chance to win. But they knew Inwould keep depositing . I have my entire game play sent to me to prove it.

I was hysterical at this point, and went in to chat explaining my situation when everything reality hit, and all the dread of just spending my tax return for my rent money and car down payment in less than 48 hours on nothing really takes a toll on you but not till after. I have 3 kids one has ADHD AND one has ASD level 2 with gender dysphoria. i am a single mom so i sometimes look for an escape and unfortunately chose gambling to do so. It's even harder to come to after losing everything to have to face my kids with no money. Now I am in a situation with no car to get to work, or money to pay last months and this months rent. When I reminded Walter in chat that My impulses took over and I didn't mean to lose everything and when I asked why they didn't lock me out of stop my deposits to ask me if I was ok , all he did was offer me another free chip to keep playing. I closed chat and got someone else that time, and i could barely type I was shaking so bad. I begged for him to call me personally and that I needed a partial refund. I just asked for help to come to a compromise to give me less than half of my deposits back as a refund not a bonus. I was offered a bonus again. I explained to them again what I was requesting and jp the person on chat had agreed to call me I was hysterical on the phone, he said that he will escalate my request for a refund to the cashiers, and I just had to wait. I waited and nothing. I reached out in chat several times and through email Advising them that they failed to operate their casino with concern for problem gamblers , that they failed to force restrictions and limits, failed to acknowledge my mental health and gambling addiction disorder and failed to address signs and symptoms, and take proper precautions to protect problem gamblers. instead they offered me bonuses, took my money, and ignored my request for even a partial refund and just told me that because I asked them to., they reopened my account, because I asked them to, they removed my limits off my account. Of course I asked them to, I have a compulsive disorder! They blocked me and game me nothing

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2 months ago

Dear Nikkilm123,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Manhattan Slots Casino.

Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can better understand the situation. 

  • Could you please share your emails to the casino in which you informed it about your struggle to control your gambling?
  • Forward them to my email at tomas@casino.guru

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Tomas


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2 months ago

Thank you Thomas. I sent you several emails to your email address you provided

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2 months ago

Some of them showed that I requested them to block my access to their site completely, and to block my ip address and close account for good permanently, and it wasn't until after this complaint was opened they did. I requested that they did in 2022,and 2023

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2 months ago

I just wanted to add that I asked for the refund before account closure, and that the original title you had listed describing details for my claim were a lot more accurate. It wasn't until after me filing a complaint with casino Guru that they actually blocked my access to reopen my account, even though I have asked for that level of closure in 2022, and 2023 and this year. i have asked for refunds from the because of my OCD and gambling addiction, of which I disclosed to them several times. I have also asked them in the past to permanently block my access to the account and not allow me to reopen of which they ignored up until now. If you view my deposit and play history, you will see that I have a compulsive problem without knowing anything else. They were well aware, well informed, and did not take proper measures to protect me as a vulnerable individual, only to gain and profit off of me. They will put on a facade and seem very caring and friendly, but they are monsters and they cover it up with kindness in their speech, and offer bonus and free chips to keep you playing. That's not kindness, fairness, or generous. That's luring, deception, and driven by profit only. I was offered free chips in chat and in emails several times, even in the same chat sessions and emails when I am begging for mercy and disclosing my mental health issues and gambling addiction, even telling them i cannot stop, they just pretended to be kind following an offer for a free chip exploiting me. I was so disgusted this last time right after losing the last of $6,000 they offered me another chip even after I previously stated that I didn't want one. They let me exceed my limit for deposits in 2022, and while they were "investigating it". They offered me a free chip while I waited, and at the end of the investigation when they apologized for it and reassured me that it was in place for good now. They have violated protecting addicted impulsive vulnerable individuals with mental health issues in every way possible and my submitted evidence couldn't possibly prove it more. I am so devistated now I am dealing with the outcome of such an awful mistake I made, although at the time I was gambling, I didn't take into consideration because of my impulsive lack of control doesn't allow me to ration logically, OCD is no joke to those who suffer from the same, please share your experience so we can help people understand the lack of control that we have. Please don't be fooled by this casinos friendly disposition, they use it to manipulate your trust, and make it more easier for you to allow them to take your money. Their slots are not fair, and their operating practices are negligent and pure profit driven, with no consideration for vulnerable players or any player for that matter.

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2 months ago

any updates?

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2 months ago

I have an update . Manhattan slots refused to give me my chat transcripts from 2022,2023, even though they were able to pull a conversation up from 2022 and display it on the screen . They also won't answer my question as to why they did not ban my account after demanding twice and confirming that I wanted it closed, banned from reopening permanently , and banned access with their sister sites. in 2022. They did not give reason and just went around in circles. I have the chat transcript from this conversation if needed. They are denying me even a partial refund and won't provide evidence that I had a current limit set in 2024

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2 months ago

Thank you very much, Nikkilm123, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.v@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.  

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2 months ago

Thank you Tomas

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2 months ago

Hello Nikkilm123,


My name is Michal and I will be assisting you with your case. I hope that together we will come to a successful resolution of your issue.


I would like to request the presence of a representative from the casino in this conversation.


Dear Manhattan Slots Casino,


Could you possibly provide additional information regarding the failed self-exclusion and clarify the situation?


Thank you in advance.


Respectfully,


Michal


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2 months ago

Hello Michal,


Thank you for raising this with us.


We are looking in to this one and will come back to you when we have gathered the information.


Best Regards,

The Manhattan Slots Casino Team

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2 months ago

Dear Manhattan Slots Casino Team,


Thank you for the reply. We will be waiting for your updates.

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2 months ago

I don't think extending the timer for the casino to respond is fair. They were quick enough to reject my request for a refund so quickly from just a couple minutes of reviewing information, don't see as to why it's taking them a week to gather information to support their reasoning to do so now

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2 months ago

Hi Michal,


We have reviewed the details regarding the complaint;


Firstly, we take the wellbeing of all our players very seriously and this case was no different. In each instance that this player has reached out to close their account we have followed the correct procedures, and it has been closed.


Upon closing the account we did not contact the player to re-open, we made this clear to the player upon closure. It was the player that reached out to us on each occasion to re-open. At which point we confirm they are comfortable in re-opening their account based on their history and also support by offering limits / restrictions – which we had done so on each occasion that this customer got back in touch to re-open their account.


In the first instance (April, 2022) there was no mention of any gambling issues and it was on the back of general losses – the customer contacted us to request that we re-open their account a short time later.

It wasn’t until the 2nd closure request that an gambling issue was mentioned (September ’22). The customer then reached back out in October ’22 to re-open, confirming that she was comfortable with re-opening and also stated that she now gives herself a specific gambling allowance and so was happy to proceed.


To clarify the point noted that her account wasn’t closed until after she contacted Casino Guru in this latest instance, we were not informed of this complaint via CG until Weds 26th June – but at this point her account was already closed (19th June 2024) following the customer already making direct contact with the casino on the 18th June.


We have acted in the best interests of the player based on the information they have provided.

 

Kind Regards,

The Manhattan Slots Casino Team

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2 months ago

I'm sorry Michal, but if you can reflect back to my emails I sent you as early as april 2022, as well as more from that year, I did express gambling issues, not to mention that I was able to deposit over my limit that was apparently set in 2022. You can also note the casino offered bonuses and apologized, and investigated it without giving reason why that happened. You will also not if you reflect in the screen shots that I did express my gambling issues again well before june 26th, and in email. also if I didn't send it, I can send you the email dates when the casino sent me an email stating my account was fully closed and unable to be reopened which was following the day after I opened up a complaint with you. Id also like to mention that the casino STILL didn't not take the proper steps they claim the took in closing my account permanently as initially requested, leaving it opened while offering bonuses in the meantime, offering account reviews for extra bonuses, and delaying closure, and not given the permanent closure like I had first requested until i opened up a complaint with you is when it was actually permanently closed . Limits were easily lifted with just a simple request in chat and account easily opened although it should have been closed permanently the first time. Addicted gamblers with OCD have impulse control issues. It is easy to ask for reopening although detrimental to my financial downfall occurring . please understand that this casino did NOT take proper steps to close my account for good fully aware of my history since 2022, nor did the responsibly regulate addictive gambling behaviors to protect my individual vulnerability.

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2 months ago

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I asked for my limits to be set in place in May 2022 because of gambling losses due to mental health and gambling issues and they knew that I also have an email stating that they remember me mentioning something in April 2022 and I am gonna go find that right now also I did let them know and remind them once again of my issue before I asked for my account to be closed and then I asked for my account to be closed. Why did it take them a whole entire week to do so and do it right after the complaint was filed for proof that I mentioned disclose my issues with gambling and my OCD mental health issues also there's the email from them in 2022 regarding them allowing me to go over the limit. I set in place because of my issues in the first place. They were well aware of it early in 2022 and the fact that I kept reopening and closing my account and was able to after, I demanded that it be closed band access, and with the sister accounts, unable to be reopened, they did not exceed to my expectations, even though their terms and conditions on their website, say that if the player requested, they will exclude immediately upon the terms of the players request and they did not do that. They made it easily accessible for me to open also over deposit on my limits with only offering me a chip in response and an apology. They were well aware, and they took advantage of me not to mention that where I live, they say that they prohibit any player that lives in jurisdiction where it is illegal, but then they say that we're in charge of acknowledging that if we sign up or not, but in the beginning, it says that they will not distribute or open an account with anyone in illegal jurisdiction. That's also a Lie . filefilefile

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and here they are with emails inquiring as to why i haven't played in a while, even though they stated they didn't intice or solicit me to engage. and a recent email the last of the three closures, after losing well over $6,000, and chats and emails explaining my ocd and gambling addictions and impulsive behaviors causing me again to lose thousands, and demanding my account to be closed, mind you they were fully aware of my mental health and gambling addiction issues in beg. of 2022, they still had the audacity to send me an email regarding limits and account reviews, and to confirm once AGAIN that I for sure wanted to permanently close my account. What makes this time any different from the other occasions to where I asked it to be permanent ? Should have been done the first time. And they didn't close my account to protect me, they did it because I demanded it. And they delayed it several days before doing so. EVEN THOUGH IT STATES IN THEIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT THEY WOULD TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION UPON SELF EXCLUDERS REQUEST. To which they didn't, allowing me to continue to deposit in the meantime before they closed my account on all occasions including the most recent occasion. Ask for their chat records and you will notice the ones i didn't provide will have dates when I initially asked for account closure was the 14. and 15th . Casinos get wind immediately when there has been a complaint filed with their casino. They knew the whole time, and are just using the date they were asked to respond as the date the became aware of the complaint, jensen their claim in having no relation to my account conveniently being PERMANENTLY closed same day or following morning. They were near immediate to respond when requested to because they were awaiting . this is bs I Should be entitled to every single credit card deposit at MINIMUM for my whole account duration . I am 15 days into my eviction from my home with my 3 children, and am driving an unreliable car. I am seeking legal help and attending gambling addiction meetings and have literally broke down every time i have engaged although the therapy has been helpful. These jerks wouldn't sweat giving a well derserved although under reimbursed refund of a couple thousands which is pennie's to what I have lost over last few years that little money to them would keep me and my children from the homelessness we will face in the near future you should be ashamed you are at the same level with the devil. FRIVILOUS GREED PROFIT DRIVEN HEARTLESS SNAKES

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2 months ago

Dear Manhattan Slots Casino,



Thank you for the provided explanation. I would like to mention that self-exclusion due to a gambling problem is a very serious issue because the players often lose control over their actions and are not thinking rationally. Informing the casino about a potential gambling problem is an important part of the self-exclusion process and we at Casino.Guru believe that if a player has a gambling problem and informs the casino about it, their account should be permanently closed without the possibility of opening (except for certain situations like when a long enough self-exclusion period has already passed - we are talking about years) and also a relevant reopening process, which includes a sufficient cool off period (not a day but at least a week, ideally two) and also communication with the player during this cool-off period for verifying if the request was made in sound mind and wasn't just a temporary failure.




In this case, only a month after the self-exclusion request, the player's account was reopened in October of 2022, we do not consider this whole process, and also the responsible gambling policy sufficient enough and we recommend improving the whole process.




I would like to ask you if we understood the situation correctly or if there is any other information as to why was the player with a gambling problem allowed to reopen his account and play so easily.

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2 months ago

Michal,


If Manhattan slots casino chooses not to respond could you assist me in filing a complaint with their regulator coracao gaming to potentially obtain a refund?

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Of course, but let's believe that the casino will resolve this complaint and there will be no need for contacting the authority.

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2 months ago

copy that!

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2 months ago

Hello Michal,

I visited Manhattan Slots website to verify their operator license with Curacao Gaming by clicking the icon on the casino's website, as advisedfile in one of your forums to validate a casinos license credentials. All of the icons displayed in this image I uploaded are clickable except the Curacao icon I circled in the screenshot. It's just an image. There also isn't a license number displayed anywhere on the Manhattan Casino's website.

I also went on Curacao Egaming website attempting to validate an operators license using the casinos associated URLS from Manhattanslots.com, clubworldcasinos.com, and affiliate and failed to validate an active license. I attempted to validate through Kahnawake's website using those affiliated URLS, and scrolled completely through their list of valid operators that hold licenses with them, and failed verification as well. now,???

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2 months ago

Hi Michal,


Completely appreciate your points, and we are in agreement that it is a very serious issue and we will ensure that your feedback is passed on to the team as we are consistently looking at ways to improve our processes.


This does appear to be a unique case as we can see that the player has a history of complaints through ourselves and with Casino Guru and what we find confounding is there is no mention of OCD or GA in those 10 complaints despite the timeline of those complaints overlapping with the period that they started complaining with us.


To conclude, we believe we have correctly followed the process in closing the account as requested. We provided the player with the option to re-open the account when they felt ready and offered support and limits to ensure they could continue playing at manageable levels. In accordance with the player's request, we have permanently closed the account. We kindly recommend that the player consider contacting other casinos they have access to and requesting account closures there as well, to help ensure their well-being and peace of mind.


Kind Regards,

The Manhattan Slots Casino Team

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2 months ago

Excuse me, but in what aspect are my complaints to other casinos have any appurtenance to your lack of regulating responsibilities to carry out a self exclusion as promised in your terms and conditions as well as requirements by your licensed provider/ regulating bodies? How do you know whether or not I have or haven't self excluded from other casinos in regards to my OCD and gambling addiction? Your claim is irrelevant to the issue presented here, and is a disregard to your reponsible regulations and respect for players well being. Michal if needed, I can provide evidence of self exclusions from other casinos that were made prior to this complaint, although I feel is unnecessary to contribute justice to the ignorance of the casinos most recent response.

I also find it interesting they chose to respond minutes after I requested their WORKING link/ credentials to validate their operating license through chat since the icon on their site does not redirect to authenticate, and was denied the information and was probed for my information instead, and then denied the information. I saved screenshots from the chat

I would like to change the initial disputed amount when I filed this complaint by increasing it from $6,000 to $17,000.

Roughly give or take only a couple hundred that's how much I've deposited from just 10/2022 when I FIRST self excluded and conveyed OCD and GA AGAIN and was ignored with only an account closure after (several days of chip offers and account reviews incurring more delay)-to 6/17/2024 my most recent deposit . Will provide deposit receipts upon request

NOTE: • Complaint filed with Grand Rush was prior to creating an account with MANHATTAN SLOTS 01/2022

• 4/10 of the complaints were using NO DEPOSIT BONUSES. NO DEPOSITS WERE MADE involving this disputes.

• The complaint filed 02/04/2024 was the same day and ONLY day of that month I decided to make a small deposit at Manhattan after filing a complaint with another casino.

As far as Sunrise Slots I self excluded and made them aware of my OCD and gambling addiction and IMMEDIATELY with no questions asked management informed me because of the information I disclosed to them, by regulatory guidelines they are MANDITORY to close, self exclude, and ban access to reopen account permanently to protect me and themselves. That's EXACTLY what they did. I am self excluded and banned access to all InClave casinos as of 01/2024

The other casinos I have self excluded from and/or have disclosed OCD and GA disorders to, immediately self excluded my accounts IMMEDIATELY and PERMANENTLY the First and ONLY time I informed them. The situation was handled correctly with immediate affect so I had no grounds to demand deposit reimbursement.

It is just unfortunate that MANHATTAN SLOTS was where I invested the most trust and MONEY out of all casinos, and the only ones that betrayed and exploited me. I was fooled by their patronizing ways, and facade of sincerity and warm charm they put forth as their taboo, but it's unlikely to emphasize emotion virtually through text chat and greeting emails, and intuitively interperate an accurate perspective. So I guess words do have more power than credited, but ACTIONS speak VOLUMES over words, and results from actions however pending, will be the ULTIMATE loudspeaker in my opinion. Let that radiate and reverberate nationwide.


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In response to the casino stating they never solicit me to come back and open my account, I received several emails from them where I was cc'd in their tweets advertising bonus and their casino in general. I received those emails in the duration my account was closed -

although supposed to have been banned and self excluded every time my account was closed.

Their casino name would appear right below the Twitter email notification without having to open the email, and when I did, there was a tweet from them with inviting description, and an advertisement banner.

I don't own a Twitter account nor do I use Twitter. Those emails came throughout my entire duration of having an account with Manhattan, until this most recent closure 6/20/24. I haven't received any communications from them including their advertisement through tweets.


October 20th 2022 after receiving several twitter emails from them throughout this particular closure, I opened one of the emails and seeing their add, I quickly contacted them to reopen my account.

Deceptive ways of getting me to come back because I've spent multiples of thousands and they wanted my business but had to act like they cared to get me to keep trusting them.


It went from conveying my OCD and GA in chat, and requesting self exclusion, to chat advising me it had to be done in email so that they could properly process self exclusion, then when I made it very clear it was for OCD and GA IN EMAIL and that I was serious about banning my account and self excluding, I was ignored and able to make deposits within that timeframe. The only contact the made were ploys to delay the closure asking if I was sure, offering account reviews for chips, and to respond back via email if I still wanted it closed.

Whether I made deposits within those time frames or not, it was still delayed. Then finally either they confirmed closure across the board, did not self exclude me but closed my account, or responded with my account remained open because I did not confirm details through chat to finalize, even though chat said self exclude process is done through email and back and forth and forth and back.


Ridiculous I have all the evidence in the world and funny thing is they have more because I first disclosed my gambling addiction and mental health in 03/22 via chat, and my account was closed just like that with no confirmation email or nothing, and then was able to reopen in april but only through live chat at that time. If they give you my chat history which I'm sure they won't you'll see that. There's no record within email correspondence from the closure , but only my request to reopen in april 2022.

It's relevant that they don't want to refund me, I'm sure $17,000+ deposits from 3/22-9/22 when i first self excluded would damage a small revenue based casino .

Maybe if they followed responsible gambling policy and abided by their terms and conditions from their own website, forums and mediators across the globe wouldn't have black listed them and players would trust them more. New ownership/ management is their biggest downfall. The previous owner should've kept this casino running before they joined club world and affgroup biggest online casino criminals.

Im ready to take this higher up whenever you are Michal. They don't want to payback the easy way. I'm done begging I'm demanding now. I have self excluded across the globe maximum time offered 5 years. I will have my money you deceptively conned me out of...


•TERMS AND CONDITIONS- WERE NOT

FOLLOWED

• RESPONSIBLE GAMBLING REGULATIONS- WERE NOT FOLLOWED

• SELF EXCLUSION PROCESS, GAMBLING ADDICTIONS AND MENTAL HEALTH SELF EXCLUSIONS WERE NOT IMMEDIATE, NOT PROCESSED FOR PERMANENT CLOSURE, EXTREMELY DELAYED AND NOT FOLLOWED

• DEPOSIT LIMITS SET BY PLAYER AND CONFIRMED WITH CASINO WERE ABLE TO BE EXCEEDED AND - NOT FOLLOWED

• CEASING ALL CORRESPONDENCE WHICH INCLUDE ASVERTISING WHILE EXCLUSION WAS ACTIVE WAS NOT FOLLOWED. I CAN GO ON AND ON BUT LETS HAVE THE REGULATING AUTHORITY DECIDE. IM DONE BEING REDUNDANT

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I want to apologize for my previous post in this complaint thread, as I may have been hasty, and overly defensive. In my current situation right now, I am increasingly in regret and now that I have been attending GA meetings, I have learned a lot about myself and have become adamant about self excluding from online gambling permanently, and am hostile from being taken advantage of for thousands of dollars , furthermore especially for being exploited and gaffled by Manhattan Slots when I was at a very vulnerable state and with the remainder of my dignity on several occasions I was crying for help and reaching for an immediate resolution upon their mercy to stop me from my gambling addiction impulses, and put an end to my revolving self destruction by self excluding and banning me access to their casinos.


My cry for help and their hand in action to promptly solve this problem by taking appropriate and immediate action to self exclude myself were not only ignored , delayed, not properly addressed and concluded, but the way that every staff member at Manhattan Slots psychologically coaxed me into a comfort zone of superficial genuineness- I can't explain other than it almost felt as though it was okay that I was losing thousands and was ignored because of the friendly manipulative demeanor that they all had was unnerving.


I was fooled by their Sociopathic psychological manipulative tactics to gain my trust, so they can profit thousands of dollars off of a single player.


To think throughout a nearly 3 year duration of online gambling where I invested more money than I ever have at any other casino by far- online or on land.

After engaging in meetings, sharing and listening, - putting this all in retrospect and to see how empathy and integrity is so non existent in the same people has truly been a wake up call.

To not follow protocols to protect problem gamblers in addition to adhere to a players orders of self exclusion and not complying with regulations regarding responsible gambling policies is already one thing, but to be psychologically manipulated while deviating self exclusion demands and regulations is in itself possibly overlooked and profoundly unacceptable.

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1 month ago

Dear Manhattan Slots Casino,


Thank you for the explanation. I appreciate your letting me know your point of view. I understand the timeframe that is required to complete the self-exclusion procedure due to the manual review that is needed for every single request.


However, I can not stress enough the fact that if a player mentions self-exclusion due to a gambling addiction, the amount of time needed for the fulfillment of the request is crucial for the player, because the longer the timeframe if the whole process is, the more money the players can lose. Also, when the players are self-excluded, their account should not be reopened, as I have mentioned in my previous reply. This can not happen after a month like in this case. The reopening should not have happened if the reason for the account closure was gambling addiction.


We firmly believe that the player should be refunded for all the deposits that occur after reopening of the account.


Would you consider refunding the player and therefore resolving this complaint?

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1 month ago

Thank you Michal. Hopefully they will abide by regulations and I won't have to take this further.

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1 month ago

Hi Michal,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

As previously stated, we have acted accordingly and listened to the player throughout the period. Closing the account when requested and stopping contact, to re-opening the account when the player initiated contact and advised she was in a position to play again.

 

Therefore, our position remains the same and we would not be issuing any refunds in this situation.

 

Kind Regards,

The Manhattan Slots Casino Team

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1 month ago

No they didn't listen, and didn't close my account when I asked I told them to close permanently in 2022 on several instances to self exclude, and they were fully aware of mental health and gambling addiction. Not to mention their terms say they will self exclude players who request it with immediate effect, and they did neither.

They delayed closure only semi-closing where I was easily able to reopen , and they allowed me to deposit over my set limit and several other factors . I have all the evidence. If I am not refunded by the final outcome I hope they are blacklisted to say the least.

When your ready Michal if you would be so kind as to assist me in filing a complaint with their regulating body. Thanks

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1 month ago

Dear Nikkilm123,


The case is being discussed with a casino representative, I will let you know with any updates.

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Thanks for the information/update Michal. I will be patiently waiting your response.

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1 month ago

Dear everyone,


Since the casino is not willing to refund the player, I am forced to mark the complaint as unresolved.


We at Casino.Guru firmly believe that if a player asks for self-exclusion due to a gambling problem, the account definitely should not be reopened after just one month by any means. The players who suffer from gambling addiction are often not in control of their actions and events like this make them suffer and deposit more.

 If the casino decides to change their stance, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email. In the meantime, I recommend you contact the Curacao Gaming Authority (complaints@gaming-curacao.com) and submit a complaint to them. The Gaming Authority has more options and tools to help players.

Please let me know if you need help with submitting the complaint or how they responded if you can do it on your own (michal.v@casino.guru). I am sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion.


Best regards,

Michal V, Casino.Guru


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