Thank you very much, LevelUp Casino Team, for all your help and cooperation in resolving the matter.
Dear Traps323,
In the meantime, I discussed the complaint internally with the team, and we agreed that there is nothing we could dispute about the casino system or process around bonuses. It is basically as I tried to explain earlier, which the casino confirmed by their last 2 posts.
Unfortunately, after gathering all the necessary information and details, we concluded your complaint is unjustified, and will be closed accordingly. The casino system worked correctly and in accordance with the terms and conditions valid at the time you used the bonus in question. As I mentioned above, different casinos consider max win or max cashout amounts differently, and it is industry standard that winnings from no-deposit FS are usually limited by wagering requirements and maximum win/cashout amount, applied upon meeting the wagering requirements or requesting a withdrawal. Understandably, a player can win a maximum of 50 NZD from such free spins, and we accept it if we are talking about a bonus (free money), especially no-deposit ones. If you continued playing with the 50$, after meeting the WRs, you would not be limited anymore (no maximum cashout), which is not common in all online casinos.
For better imagination, let's take a simple example. You have 0 balance and receive 20 classic FS as a no-deposit bonus, as in any other good online casino, with a maximum cashout limit of 50$. You spend FS and accumulate $30 winnings from them, the only balance you have. You continue with wagering, to meet the wagering requirements, and you reach out 100$. However, as usual and standard, the maximum limit is applied upon meeting the wagering requirements, and the balance is decreased to the maximum amount of 50$. Then you can do anything you want with 50$, since from this moment, they are considered a real money (withdrawable) balance. Some casinos do not let players continue playing with such funds, and simply anything over 50$ is removed from a balance, even if players continue playing after meeting the wagering requirements (we do not agree with that). That is the main point that I would like to point out. Although you talked about the difference between the maximum win limit, winnings limit, and cashout limit, it is only playing with words in this case. According to the rules valid for the FS you used and the winnings you wagered, you were allowed to receive a maximum of 50$, which you got, and you could have further used them as you wanted. Standard situation and process. There is nothing to solve, and I believe everything is clear now.
In the future, I strongly recommend discussing unclear rules with casinos' Customer Support representatives before accepting them.
I am sorry we were not able to help you with this one, but please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help.
If you are not satisfied with the complaint solution, I recommend you consult the gambling authority that the casino is regulated by.
In case of any questions, feel free to write to me at branislav.b@casino.guru.
Best regards,
Branislav, Casino.Guru
Thank you very much, LevelUp Casino Team, for all your help and cooperation in resolving the matter.
Dear Traps323,
In the meantime, I discussed the complaint internally with the team, and we agreed that there is nothing we could dispute about the casino system or process around bonuses. It is basically as I tried to explain earlier, which the casino confirmed by their last 2 posts.
Unfortunately, after gathering all the necessary information and details, we concluded your complaint is unjustified, and will be closed accordingly. The casino system worked correctly and in accordance with the terms and conditions valid at the time you used the bonus in question. As I mentioned above, different casinos consider max win or max cashout amounts differently, and it is industry standard that winnings from no-deposit FS are usually limited by wagering requirements and maximum win/cashout amount, applied upon meeting the wagering requirements or requesting a withdrawal. Understandably, a player can win a maximum of 50 NZD from such free spins, and we accept it if we are talking about a bonus (free money), especially no-deposit ones. If you continued playing with the 50$, after meeting the WRs, you would not be limited anymore (no maximum cashout), which is not common in all online casinos.
For better imagination, let's take a simple example. You have 0 balance and receive 20 classic FS as a no-deposit bonus, as in any other good online casino, with a maximum cashout limit of 50$. You spend FS and accumulate $30 winnings from them, the only balance you have. You continue with wagering, to meet the wagering requirements, and you reach out 100$. However, as usual and standard, the maximum limit is applied upon meeting the wagering requirements, and the balance is decreased to the maximum amount of 50$. Then you can do anything you want with 50$, since from this moment, they are considered a real money (withdrawable) balance. Some casinos do not let players continue playing with such funds, and simply anything over 50$ is removed from a balance, even if players continue playing after meeting the wagering requirements (we do not agree with that). That is the main point that I would like to point out. Although you talked about the difference between the maximum win limit, winnings limit, and cashout limit, it is only playing with words in this case. According to the rules valid for the FS you used and the winnings you wagered, you were allowed to receive a maximum of 50$, which you got, and you could have further used them as you wanted. Standard situation and process. There is nothing to solve, and I believe everything is clear now.
In the future, I strongly recommend discussing unclear rules with casinos' Customer Support representatives before accepting them.
I am sorry we were not able to help you with this one, but please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help.
If you are not satisfied with the complaint solution, I recommend you consult the gambling authority that the casino is regulated by.
In case of any questions, feel free to write to me at branislav.b@casino.guru.
Best regards,
Branislav, Casino.Guru
Edited by a Casino Guru admin