The player from Spain had his winnings cancelled. He was accused of breaching the T&Cs.
Turns out, I entered € 100 to play live roulette. They enabled me if I want it a bonus that could not be used for live roulette, so far OK.
I start playing roulette by betting € 5 and I manage to get around 3,500, which and after confirming that I have released a bonus (a bonus that I have not used), allow me to withdraw.
My surprise is that I withdraw 1920 and the next day I ask about the status of that retirement and they tell me that I made a bet of € 35 on such date / time that it does not comply with the T & Cs ..... I ask for clarification and I notify you that I made the withdrawal and I had not bet anything, that those big bets are because I wanted to try blackjack (I had never played) and all the tables were from those tickets and I was playing for a while because I had won a lot of money before at roulette.
I do not know if this is a scam or what happens, but they have told me that they were going to transmit my complaints again and such, but I see that what they want is to take away my money
Dear Ppmpalao,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience. I have checked the T&Cs (https://www.spinupcasino.com/general-terms-conditions/?lang=en), and this is what I found:
" 16.3 . "Irregular play" includes, inter alia:
Placing total bets equal to or greater than 30% of the value of the deposit currently in play."
Could you please forward me your whole game history together with any relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? I hope, we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Kristina
Dear Ppmpalao,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to provide the required information in the given time frame, we will reject your complaint.
Thank you very much Ppmpalao for your reply and email. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Matej who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Hello ppmpalao.
In your case all depends on if you played with a bonus.
If you look here:
Table games have a 10% game contribution.
Generally, we dislike rules which limit the real money play, but in the case of bonus, the casino has the right to set the terms of use. We will be more than happy if you could provide us with your bonus history.
Let's see, they gave me a bonus but before playing with the money I won, I had already released it, so plan a money withdrawal because I already had it released.
It all started later, so I canceled that withdrawal for and increased it, and then they did all that to me.
I have your game history, but I need more information. When did you make deposits and when your bonus was activated? In the game history, it looks like some information is missing too. Overall money balance and bonus money balance. (I can see only bets and wins and loses - and I can confirm that there were high bets on baccarat) Could you please recheck it?
I tell him.
I entered € 100 to play live casino on 07/18/2020 at 12:29:08, and they gave me (without asking, then they told me in a chat conversation that I should have removed that option) € 300 bonus and 150 runs in a slot. I only played those spins, but I didn't use the 300 bonus, and when I made that first withdrawal (which I canceled to increase to 1902) that bonus was canceled (saying that the bonus had already been released by gambling, so I confirmed it in a conversation CHAT that I really did not keep).
As I comment, I made a withdrawal on 07/19/2020 at 4:26:59 PM and canceled it to increase the money from that withdrawal.
Finally I got to have about 4000 € approx. but I played all that and only the withdrawal that had been pending in 1902 remained; I am attaching the email that I received when I requested that second withdrawal (07/19/2020 18:28):
Dear Jose,
Thanks for playing at SpinUp Casino.
Your request for disposal amounting to € 1902.60 has been sent correctly.
Reference number: 1736092
(Keep this reference number in case you need to ask about it)
Before processing your disposition request, we may ask you for some documents and a telephone verification.
For more information, go to the following link: Withdrawal Policy
Our Customer Service will communicate by email the necessary documents to carry out your request.
Our goal is to complete all withdrawal requests within 5 business days after all relevant documentation is received and verified, when we have successfully completed the telephone verification, and provided any other applicable requirements have been met. .
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From your account you can check your trading history.
If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact our 24/7 Customer Service
If they need it, I can attach all the emails I have from them.
And finally, to add more information, he sent me this email that was when they made that "adjustment" and left the account clean (07/20/2020 16:34):
Dear Jose
As part of our regular withdrawal review process, we have seen that the terms and conditions were not met.
The Terms and Conditions prohibit making single bets equal to or greater than 30% of the value of the deposit.
Therefore we have canceled your withdrawal request and removed the winnings.
If you have any questions, please contact our customer service via live chat on our site.
Best regards,
Verification Team
Just to clarify, that when I established that first withdrawal of € 1,500 (which I later canceled, as I have commented), I had already released the bonus and the money that I had not played in my account had been taken from me, from what I understand that already it was clean money ...
I am afraid that I need help from casino representatives to clarify what was the reason for denied withdrawal.
Please, could you explain to us where the problem is?
The problem is that after having released 100% of the bonus, they told me that I had breached a point of the terms, and instead of giving me the money I requested to withdraw, they "updated" my account, they left it to me as at the beginning ( the 100 euros I put in) .....
In short, I have been robbed.
Usually, when casino cancels the winnings and returns the deposit when the player used a bonus, it means that some of the bonus condition was breached.
The best would be to let them explain why they cancelled your winnings.
But my best guess is that it was because of your high bets on Baccarat and maybe there were some winnings from free spins which you used while playing Bacarrat. But that's just theory.
Please, casino representatives, give me a hand in this case and explain to us what exactly happened.
I already tried to get an explanation and everything was long, you just tell me what the system was reporting, they even called me and more of the same.
In short, it is fighting an ant against an elephant, so in the end I have given up and I can do nothing to get back what I have legally earned.
We would like to ask the SpinUp Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’.
Perfect, thanks. I anticipate that they will not respond, because these people are like that.
Since we haven’t received any response from the casino regarding the issue, we are forced to close the complaint as ‘unresolved’.
The casino can reopen this complaint anytime.
I am very sorry ppmpalao that we can't help you more. Your complaint will be published as a warning. In case that casino decides to improve their rating from us, they will need to solve your complaint.