The player's account got blocked due to ongoing verification. Based on the evidence provided, we ended up rejecting the complaint because it was not justified.
I lost tens of thousands of euros at betnaster.io. In a cashback program I was credited with 2x5000 EUR. When I wanted to hand over the money, my account was blocked. When I contact support, they always answer until I give my details - after that no more. I documented everything.
Hello alexanderbmoser,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with Betmaster Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.
Could you please advise since when exactly is your account closed? Did they request documents from you for the verification and if yes, did you provide them? When was the last time you contacted the casino with this issue and did they respond to you?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
Nick
Hello alexanderbmoser,
If your account got closed at 2020, I can imagine that the casino maybe no longer even has your details. Could you please advise when was the last time you communicated with them?
Hello alexanderbmoser,
Seems like a strange case after such long time. I believe that as long as you had any real money on your casino account, the casino should pay out the balance, please advise if you did have or not. Also did you receive any e-mail after they closed your account with an explanation? Please try to check if and if there is one, forward it to nikolas.b@casino.guru.
Hi Nick, since the day I wanted to withdraw the money, betmaster hasn't responded - as I said, everything is documented. I just sent you an email with all the replies I got back then.
Hello alexanderbmoser,
Could you please advise if your balance at the time of the closure was entirely the cash back bonus or did you have real balance there too? Did you receive the bonus for playing casino or sports betting?
It was cashback due to my high deposits. However, my deposits were only so high because of the cashback program.
Thank you alexanderbmoser for all the information. I will now forward your complaint to my colleague Peter who will be assisting you from now on.
Wish you best luck resolving it.
Regards,
Nick
Hello alexanderbmoser,
I have looked at your case and understand the situation. I will contact the casino and see if I can help. I would like to invite Betmaster Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.
We would like to ask the Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’.
Hello,
We have checked the provided information and see that the customer in question was playing with us in 2020. By decision of the VIP Manager, he was credited a cashback based on his gaming activity, at this time there were no personal funds on the player’s account balance. Unfortunately, at the same time, we received a notification from the payment provider that the player submitted a false chargeback request against all his deposited & lost funds to the bank stating false information that our company did not provide him any services and that he did not play with us at all.
According to our T&Cs:
8. The Company sometimes receives chargeback requests from issuing card providers in relation to Clients and Personal Accounts. This occurs when a Client claims that the relevant transaction was not undertaken by the Client. If this is claimed by you to your card provider, we have the right to suspend Personal Account whilst we investigate the chargeback. If a chargeback request is received, we will contact you to confirm the transaction / investigate the chargeback request. Reminders may be sent should the requested confirmation not be received. If we are unable to contact you, your Personal Account may remain suspended or be closed. Sadly, not all chargeback requests are valid and can, when made without basis, constitute a fraud / attempted fraud against the Company. In the case of invalid or false chargeback requests, we will close your Personal Account and freeze the funds.
On the basis of the T&C, the customer’s account was suspended for further investigation. The credited cashback by the company was deactivated.
Furthermore, the customer submitted various complaints to the company’s regulator asking for the regulator to assist in obtaining the deactivated bonus. However, after considering all the evidence provided by the company and the player (proof of deposits, gaming activity, chargeback request, etc), the regulator ruled in favour of our company and declined the complaint. The player keeps now damaging the company's reputation by defamation just because he has exhausted all legal remedies and cannot use any truthful arguments in complaints processes.
Regards,
BM Team
Thank you Betmaster Casino team for the explanation.
Dear alexanderbmoser,
Can you confirm that the statement from the casino is correct? If you made a chargeback of all your deposits purposely, I'm afraid, you are no longer eligible for any bonuses even winnings.
Good morning,
I can not confirm that.
Only when I do that
I couldn't bet or withdraw cashback, so I took action because I felt cheated and from that moment on I didn't trust betmaster anymore. Luckily I documented everything with screenshots and videos and this of course also shows the day on which I wanted to use the cashback - this is of course before the day of my attempted chargebacks. I've also been trying to get an overview of my deposits and withdrawals from Betmaster for months and will always state that I was never ignored as a customer. They simply do not react to various emails, although betmaster is obliged to send me this data according to the DSGVO regulation. Maybe it's all just a misunderstanding and betmaster proposes an agreement - that would of course close the case for me.
Thank you alexanderbmoser for your reply.
Dear Betmaster Casino team,
Could you please send relevant evidence supporting your claims to my email address (peter.m@casino.guru)? Sensitive information can be blurred out.
Thank you Betmaster for your email, I sent you some additional questions.
Dear alexanderbmoser,
If you have more evidence, you can send it to peter.m@casino.guru.
Hi Peter,
I have all the documentation from 2020 inc. Screenshots and videos sent via email. This clearly shows that the payout was not possible and I only tried to make the chargebacks afterwards. Since Betmaster is a reputable casino by its own admission, I can only imagine that, as I said, there was a misunderstanding and that I will still get my money.
I received 2x €5000 cashback and was able to pay out the amount in one sum, even in smaller partial amounts and I was also unable to place bets. When I asked, I was only told that the payout is only possible after verification. When verification was complete, my account was simply blocked - see screenshots I sent you.
Betmaster's app was then called QBet
Due to the fact that I did not receive the payout, could not bet and suddenly my account was blocked, I initiated chargebacks at my bank. The reason I gave was that a service was not fulfilled, which is also true, since I could neither withdraw funds nor place bets.
I never received a decision from the supervisory authority. My bank only informed me that chargebacks are not possible for gambling and advised me to report it.
Dear alexanderbmoser,
We discussed your complaint internally and I'm afraid we won't be able to help you with this one. Firstly, you received 2x €5000 cashback from the casino which was kind of a loyalty bonus. Usually, these bonuses come with a wagering requirement. That is probably the reason why you weren't able to withdraw the funds right away. Secondly, you then made the chargeback, unfortunately, with a false accusation. The casino decided to take the loyalty bonus back. Considering all the circumstances, we are convinced that the casino didn't do anything wrong and the steps taken were legitimate. Normally, I would recommend you to contact the gaming authority, however, it already decided in favor of the casino. I'm afraid our hands are tied. I wish I could be of more help.
Best regards,
Peter