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Big5Casino - Player has been accused of opening multiple accounts.

Black points: 324

Amount: €1,800

Big5Casino
Safety Index:Below average
Submitted: 21 Dec 2021 | Unresolved : 19 Jan 2022
Unresolved Our verdict

Against fair gambling

UNRESOLVED

Case summary

2 years ago

The player from Germany has been accused of opening multiple accounts. We believe that if player is able to verify himself then he/she should get paid.

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2 years ago
Translation

I won 1800 and since then they would have identified my account with several accounts

but what is wrong

I. I am desperate

I still have all their emails

and wanted to have proof of my violation but they said they couldn't prove it to me

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2 years ago

Dear Antigona,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem.

We will contact the casino and ask for supporting evidence, but, before we do so, could you please advise if, to the best of your knowledge, there’s a possibility that someone else from your family members or neighbors has opened an account from the same IP address or device as yours or using your email address? Were your winnings accumulated with or without an active bonus? Was your account successfully verified in the past?

If there’s any relevant communication, please forward it to petronela.k@casino.guru.

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Petronela

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2 years ago
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No, nothing of that. There is only one account and that's mine !!!!

because of the ip address if that's the wlnan,

that you can use the hotspot if you are outside you can borrow from your spouse or use free wifi. That is what everyone does today

but accuse myself of violating the rules just because I won well once and I'm from Germany and can't speak English !!! so that they can keep my winnings and tell me I violated the ABG! !!

why didn't they block much beforehand when they check it out so well where I deposited almost € 30 every day!

That is really nice to collect money for you

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2 years ago

Thank you very much, Antigona, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Viliam (viliam.v@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

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2 years ago
Translation

Great, thank you very much I hope that I will win against such fraudsters one day!

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2 years ago

Hello Antigona,

I looked at your complaint and will do my best to help you. I would like to invite Big5 Casino into this conversation. Casino, can you please send me evidence that this player has multiple accounts? My email: viliam.v@casino.guru

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2 years ago
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If Big5 Casino can't prove that, which I'm 💯% sure of

then do they have to pay me my money, right?

I even advertised Big 5 Casino to my brother-in-law who installed it the next day and paid in directly who lives in our house, that's my brother-in-law


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2 years ago

Dear Antigona,

I'm afraid that if your brother-in-law played at the same Casino there is no chance to get your winnings. Please refer to the Casino's Terms and Conditions, especially "47. Each Player is allowed to open only one Account per person, family, household, IP address and email address. Use of more than one Account per physical Player is known as "multi-accounting" and as such is strictly forbidden."


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2 years ago
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I recommended the casino after I won and made my withdrawal

he played with it for 1 day

he has his own cell phone with which he plays

The payout was in progress and only 2 days later he registered there

it can't be that it is a mistake to recommend the casino to someone

that he

I did not cheat and and several accounts to 💯% not !!!!!!!

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2 years ago
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Everyone has the right to use their name to play in every casino!

whether my brother-in-law registers at the same casino, that's nothing forbidden

that's good for the casino if it's recommended!

everyone else would agree with me

this is not a scam, not a rule violation

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2 years ago

Dear player and CasinoGuru team,


We have checked the player account and we could see that the account has been closed due to breaching of our Terms and Condition section 47 and 48 Multiple accounts.


Please find part of our Terms and Conditions section multiple accounts as follows:


  1. Each Player is allowed to open only one Account per person, family, household, IP address and email address. Use of more than one Account per physical Player is known as "multi-accounting" and as such is strictly forbidden.
  2. In the event that We suspect that a Player is opening multiple accounts by using the same or similar names, address, telephones, email addresses, same or similar dynamic IP addresses, computer or other devices, with the intent of defrauding or cheating, We reserve the right to close an Account or Accounts at any time and to cancel all the transactions, bets, waive winnings and deduct bonuses from all relevant Accounts.


We are sorry that we can't provide you with another information but every player accepts our Terms and Conditions during the registration process and in this case account has been closed by the side of the relevant department as everything has been fully checked and the decision is final.


Best regards

Big5Casino Complain Team

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2 years ago
Translation

And why didn't you block me right where I noticed?

you have waited until I make a withdrawal so that you can continue to rip off my money

that is cheating you since a cheating casino the main thing is to collect your pigs

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2 years ago

Dear Big5Casino,

did they take any advantage by creating those accounts? We believe if the players are able to verify themselves you should reopen their accounts and pay their winnings.

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2 years ago

Dear player and CasinoGuru team,


Our Terms and Conditions have been breached since we do not allow 2 accounts in the same household under the same street address.


Please find our Terms and Conditions regarding multiple accounts:


1) Each Player is allowed to open only one Account per person, family, household, IP address and email address. Use of more than one Account per physical Player is known as "multi-accounting" and as such is strictly forbidden.


2) In the event that We suspect that a Player is opening multiple accounts by using the same or similar names, address, telephones, email addresses, same or similar dynamic IP addresses, computer or other devices, with the intent of defrauding or cheating, We reserve the right to close an Account or Accounts at any time and to cancel all the transactions, bets, waive winnings and deduct bonuses from all relevant Accounts.


We are sorry that we can't provide you with any other information but we can assure you that everything has been checked fully and the decision of our relevant department is final.


Best regards

Big5 Casino Complain Team


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2 years ago
Translation

You are clear cheaters

why did you not notice the one where I always deposited

that suited you very well


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2 years ago

Dear Antigona,

unfortunately, based on the management decision I'm forced to close this complaint as unresolved. You can contact Malta gaming authority. If you need my help with contacting them just send me an email here: viliam.v@casino.guru

I am very sorry I couldn't help more, but at least closing this complaint as unresolved will negatively influence the Casino's rating and other players can read about your experience in our review.

I hope you won't come across a problem like this again.

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2 years ago

Explanation:

In Casino Guru, we believe that the best casinos should create a good user experience and safe environment for the players. Even for those who do not read full T&Cs (in reality no one does). So terms should be either intuitive (be over 18, play under your name) or enforced by software. The term of one account per household is not intuitive and therefore should be enforced (every player provides an address in the registration process and software should be able to check for matches). So there would not be a chance for players to break rules by honest mistake and get their winnings voided.

We understand that in situations like this there is a suspicion that both accounts belong to one person and if that is the case winnings should be voided. But it is on the casino to prove that one person has multiple accounts. To have a suspicion is not enough(casino has only prove for multiple accounts per household, but we consider unfair to void winnings for this even if it is in T&Cs because it's not intuitive, not enforced and therefore lots of players can make an honest mistake)

We believe that good solution here is to make more strict KYC procedure than standard for winning account. For example, make a verification call. If the identity of the player that won money is verified then money should be paid.

Also please note that even if we would not consider voiding winnings based on two accounts in the household to be unfair, this rule was broken by the second account, not the first one. So the first account should be paid anyway.

Thank you for understanding.

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2 years ago
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You got it spot on

explained!!!!!!!

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