1 year ago
Does anyone else have any info and evidence that MrGreen is now slowly but surely paying court judgments? I would appreciate answers! Thanks
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Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 14)
1 year ago
I would also very much like to know that
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1 year ago
Malta probably wants to prevent the execution of gambling providers with a new law:
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/verbraucher/wettlieferant-schutz-malta-klagen-100.html
and details of the bill here:
https://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2023-05-08/local-news/Austrian-German-lawyers-write-to-European-Commission-over-proposed-changes-to-Malta-s- gaming-laws-6736251708
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1 year ago
Well I don't think that all countries will agree and will let them do that. ANJ the french gambling authority is tired to blocked website because Malta doesn't respected the law and let the casinos operate illegally here.
So maybe people should open a petition online to stop them do that.
Its hilarious to see this, because they let casino scam, operate, and don't respect the gambling law, and else, but the ministry of Malta want to protect them to pay for their crime...
If its not a proof of corruption..
1 year ago
Thanks for the info! Unfortunately not good at all!
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1 year ago
It would be interesting to know whether such a law, should it be introduced, would also apply to current executions or only to future ones.
Hope dies last!
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1 year ago
No law can be passed that quickly. Especially not in the EU. Open negotiations take place in any case. With today's law. Wait.
Mrgreen has transferred!
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1 year ago
Congratulations on receiving the money! 🙂
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1 year ago
yes absolutely correct. First of all, the draft has to pass several stages in the Maltese parliament. If such a scandal really happens and the law is passed, the ECJ will certainly step in and prevent it.
Unfortunately, it will take a lot of time, which plays into the hands of the providers. You will not pay or delay at first. They only want to gain time with such actions and unsettle so many
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1 year ago
maybe everyone who gets money from Pokerstars should be present and have the winnings from the tournament confiscated by a lawyer and make a riot )))
https://www.pokerfirma.com/news/summer-festival-malta-2023/798644
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1 year ago
https://help.orf.at/stories/3219377
1 year ago
Here is the email and phone number of the minister who introduced this law! A shitstorm may roar over him
Email: silvio.schembri@gov.mt
Phone: +356 2220 9505
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1 year ago
I see that too. I would wish that nic.at would have to ensure by law that all these pages are no longer accessible in Austria. This would also help many gambling addicts. In my case, for example, there is actually no longer a problem because I am blocked from Admiral and the casinos and have no access. But these shit online casinos where 20 new ones are opened every day have brought me into private bankruptcy twice already. Twice
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1 year ago
I have to take a lawyer, in France we don't have lawyer specialised on casino refund... Not only it's illegal but also not regulate, and also unfair (who check the so called fairness of slots ?). And yes you are right a lot of mafia... I have the case in my problem... dirty people...
1 year ago
Here is the email and phone number of the minister who introduced this law! A shitstorm may roar over him
Email: silvio.schembri@gov.mt
Phone: +356 2220 9505
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1 year ago
He's the greatest criminal of all. I have already written to him twice. Because I don't understand that the MGA as a supposed government agency doesn't respect that I want to seize the license of the casinos. Neither is punished. Malta is a thoroughly corrupt country. You can see that from the fact that the lawsuits are not served in the normal way. The courts are now using tricks with international acknowledgment of receipt or courier services so that the lawsuits arrive in Malta at all. The shit "State Advocate" collects 50 € for the service and I haven't even experienced that with over 40 complaints there is at least some kind of feedback, and the first complaint is now five years old.
this law is quite funny but in principle nothing new. All executions in Malta are dismissed due to various so-called public order "ordre public". Where are 80 test cases going, where is supposed to look quite good - maybe that's also the reason why Mr Green suddenly wants to compare himself.
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1 year ago
I'm looking at the complaint that you mentioned here. I noticed you asked the casino whether you're allowed to play from France, but you also asked other questions. The customer support answered the other question regarding BTC, but they didn't confirm you can play from France according to the screenshot provided.
Even though casinos can be VPN friendly, it doesn't mean that you can play there from a restricted country. It only means that you can play from an allowed country, but protecting yourself with VPN. It seems that you registered from a restricted country using VPN.
Anyway, we didn't close your complaint forever. As the summary says:
"It was decided that the player should submit a complaint to the casino's licensing authority, and so the complaint was closed temporarily pending the outcome of the regulator's investigation. Upon receipt of their decision, the complaint will be reopened and updated as appropriate."
It simply means that we wanted to know what's the authority's opinion on this since we weren't 100% sure who's right and who's wrong in this case.
1 year ago
The licensing authorities don't give a damn. The answers don't. They don't care about any of that.
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1 year ago
I agree with you Daniel, but they are case where Casino Guru is not fair, for my case the casino let me suscribe and deposit, and when I try to complete the KYC to withdraw it wasn't working because I'm not on the list of country. When I contacted them they claim to me that as I'm french I cannot withdraw more than my deposit ! Always less. And after that they block my country to access the casino, and I had to open a case here.
I've managed to have screenshot, and proof with my IP, but casino guru told me to open a complaint to the licence.
I swear they are rigged, because the close the complaint with no proof, no explanation, nothing....
Btw, the evidence provide by the casino here were fake and I've proved it... So I don't understand why casino guru can stand with liar and scammer like them..
1 year ago
I can tell you that because Casino-Guru is a so-called "affiliate" and records 30% of your deposits. Casino Guru is still relatively fair and transparent and also shows the dangers in various videos. It even explains that you if you you will lose all your money constantly playing. Much worse are the other sites like ASKGAMBLERS and CASINOMEISTER. They make rumored 50 million € every year from the income of the people who come to the casinos via their portals. And they are 0% on the side of the Players. Casino-Guru is at least trying to be impartial. A discussion like this would be immediately deleted on any other forum. Believe me, I'm banned for life from both of them for being critical.
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1 year ago
I think we should all file a complaint against malta, on EU we can form a complaint against a country which don't respect our rights or laws
1 year ago
I also see it completely differently. The responsibility does not lie with the players, but with the casinos. Casinos know it's illegal, but they do it anyway. The casinos therefore consciously take the risk of being sued afterwards.
"When it comes to Austria, I believe there are Austrian players who are happy playing at their favorite MGA licensed casinos and have been playing there for ages simply because they like their services."
And I know that there are many players who have lost their livelihoods to casinos and are far from happy with it.
The law is what it is and if players have the ability to recoup their losses, many do. It doesn't matter how you evaluate it morally, that's just the reality and it's in the nature of things.
There is also no player protection in illegal casinos. Yes, you can get banned from individual casinos, but someone who is addicted to gambling simply registers with the nearest casino as there are thousands of casinos online and there is no one-size-fits-all banning feature.
There is as yet no system where a player can ban himself from ALL MGA casinos or ALL Curacao casinos etc.
In Germany you can extend the block to all casinos, but what good is that when countless illegal casinos are accessible at the push of a button?
Gaming has harmed many more people than it has benefited so far and it is not about small things. Many have lost everything as a result.
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1 year ago
It is exactly like that. And on the subject of player protection: at win2day you can gamble away a maximum of €800 per week. Funnily enough, Mister Green is doing it that way now too. At all other casinos, if you have deposited €20,000 over a weekend, you will not be asked if you can afford it, you will become a VIP. I've been addicted to gambling for 20 years, I've lost a lot of money in the casinos and at the Admiral, but the worst thing that has brought me into bankruptcy twice is the online casinos. Only here is it possible for you to deposit €80,000 in a weekend without anyone bothering, so I don't want the shitty MGA arguing that their licensed casinos adhere to various Responsible Gaming rules. They don't stick to anything.
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1 year ago
Ultimately, this means: In Austria you can deposit at any MGA casino, hope for winnings and if it doesn't work, then simply ask for the money back.
The casinos are aware of the legal situation, but many still allow Austrian players out of sheer greed for money.
I believe that this is the main difference between the gambling authority in Austria and Casino Guru's point of view. Our main goal has always been making the gambling environment more fair and safer. So I claim that if you decide to play in a casino, risk your money and lose it, then you just lost it. If the casino treats you as any other player in case you win = they payout the winnings regardless your country of residence, then the relationship between you (as a player) and the casino is fair. That's how playing in a casino works.
But whenever ANY side tries to earn money without risk = depositing, withdrawing winnings or suing them in case of losses or accepting player's deposits, but voiding winnings because of player's country of residence, then it creates an unfair advantage for one of the sides and that's something we'd never support.
I'm aware that's not how the law works, but I claim that it starts with the player's choice whether they decided to deposit their money anywhere or not. When it comes to Austria, I believe there are Austrian players who happily play in their favourite MGA licensed casinos and they've been playing there for ages, because they simply like their services. They suddenly don't see them as a pure evil simply because the law has changed.
1 year ago
That is not correct. Anyone who offers an illegal casino, i.e. is a criminal, must also put up with being cheated himself. For this reason, almost all casinos have withdrawn from Austria.
In Austria there is only one casino that is legal and that is regulated by the state.
Because our gambling laws also basically say it's okay to gamble, it's okay to lose something, but it's not okay to lose your existence.
of course it is an advantage in favor of the player. Themselves to blame. Then the casino should not offer its services in Austria. We've had this discussion many times. I've filed numerous complaints because it's just illegal. ALL casinos.
But. Out of shame or other reasons, only 10% of players go to a lawyer. So it's still a good deal for most people.
the industry is a mafia. You just have to say it like that. Only profit counts here. There are people who have committed suicide because of their gambling addiction. Nobody cares about that at the casinos. And neither did the families left behind. It's a dirty business.
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