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bCasino - Player's winnings were voided due to bet limit violation.

Amount: R5,000

bCasino
Safety Index:Below average
Submitted: 15 Mar 2024 | Case closed : 03 Apr 2024
Case closed Our verdict

Unjustified complaint

REJECTED

Case summary

7 months ago

The player from South Africa had faced difficulties withdrawing her winnings from an online casino. After using her comp points and winning a few thousand rand, she had requested a withdrawal. The casino, however, had claimed that some of her bets exceeded 10% of the bonus amount, which was against their policy, and therefore cancelled her withdrawal and voided her winnings. The player's account had been verified and she had a small balance before redeeming the comp points. Despite our efforts to assist, the player had felt unsatisfied with our help. Eventually, she reported that another complaint site had helped her and that her funds were being paid. We had closed the complaint upon the player's request.

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8 months ago

HI i redeemed my comp points on the 16 th of feb 2024 of an amount of 340 rand just after i played a free spin bonus and won a full 9 rand from that i then continued to play as my comp points was no real money after winning a couple of thousand rands i requested a withdrawal please see below info

You can see the bonus was 9.45 i recieved 10 % of this is 0.9 cents there is no game that can play this amount but also note that the bulk of my money was from my comp pionts that in reality real money that i played with

We hope you're doing well.

We wanted to inform you that while the minimum bet in the game would have been accepted, we noticed that you went straight to a bet of ZAR 120 right after receiving the bonus.

Please be reminded that it's important to adhere to the wagering requirements and appropriate bet limits when using bonuses. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the wagering conditions or any other aspects of the game, feel free to reach out to us. We're here to assist you.

Thank you for your understanding.


Regards,

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 Dispute Resolution Official 12 days ago

Hi Lucan - welcome to CasinoReviews.com!

 

Firstly - bonus buy features ARE bets. They are simply one large bet on the outcome of a bonus feature. 

 

Having reviewed the play history in question we are inclined to agree with your claim partially. You did violate the maximum allowed bet term whilst playing with a bonus. This does invalidate the bonus contract and would result in your balance being reset to pre-bonus conditions. 

 

However, you completed the wagering requirement with 789.45ZAR. Resetting your balance to pre-bonus conditions would leave you 361ZAR. The majority of the balance that has been voided was accumulated AFTER the wagering requirement was completed, and can be attributed to non-bonus play given that your balance did not drop by 361ZAR after that point.

 

As such, we view would view 5346.75ZAR to be legitimate winnings and will contact the operator to discuss further.

 

Thanks,

 


You can see the bonus was 9.45 i recieved 10 % of this is 0.9 cents there is no game that can play this amount but also note that the bulk of my money was from my comp pionts that in reality real money that i played with

On Feb 28, 2024 at 12:46 PM, Mark wrote:

Good day Lucan Van Der,


Thank you for reaching out to us. We appreciate your email and the opportunity to address your withdrawal request.


Upon thorough review of your withdrawal request, we observed that several bets placed exceeded 10% of the bonus amount credited to your account. As outlined in our Bonus Terms and Conditions, this contravenes our policy.

For your reference, we have attached the game history for your review. Please take a moment to go through it to see the specific bets that have breached our terms and conditions.


The terms and conditions for each bonus are readily accessible on the respective bonus pages within our casino, providing all players with the opportunity to review them before availing themselves of bonuses. We've included the relevant section here for your convenience:


"The following wagering activities are not allowed until the wagering requirements of this bonus have been completed:


1. The use of bonus funds purely to progress through the bonus stages of games.

2. Equal, zero, or low-margin betting.

3. Betting on a non-slots game, such as a table or card game.

4. Betting more than ZAR 60 per spin or 10% of the received bonus amount (the smaller of the two) on a slot game.

5. Betting on non-allowed games (Please see 'Non-Allowed Games' for a list of non-allowed games).

6. Using a 'feature buy' or Buy Pass function within a game.

If, on review of your wagering activities, it is found that you have performed one of the above, your winnings will be removed."


By claiming the bonus, you have accepted the terms and conditions of this bonus, which includes the removal of the winnings clause.


We have therefore cancelled your withdrawal request and voided the winnings.



Should you have any questions please reply to this email or contact our customer support via live chat on our site.


Our industry-standard services and terms are legally ratified by the Malta Gaming Authority and are written clearly enough for players to follow and understand.


Our casino is licensed by the Malta Gaming Authority (MGA), widely regarded as one of the best regulatory bodies in the entire gambling industry. The MGA enforces strict guidelines to ensure fair play, player protection, and responsible gambling. They continuously monitor and supervise licensed casinos to maintain high standards of operation.


On review of your withdrawal request, we see that a number of bets were placed that were greater than 10% of the bonus credited to your account. According to the Bonus Terms and Conditions, this is not allowed.

We have therefore cancelled your withdrawal request, and voided the


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8 months ago

Hello Lucan8888,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with bCasino . Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.

Could you please advise if your account is already verified and if yes, since when exactly? How much was your casino balance before receiving the bonus? Was there only 1 bet which was higher than the maximum allowed one? Do I see it correctly from the screenshot you provided that it was a losing bet?

How much is your current casino balance and is the casino still reviewing your case?

Looking forward to your answer.

Regards,

Nick

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8 months ago

Hi nick yes my account is verified with them and it was verified i think 4 years ago already secondly my balance was not alot before redeeming the comp points and yes it was a losing bet li did submit this complaint to casino reviews website and there feedback was the following -


Hi Lucan - welcome to CasinoReviews.com!

 

Firstly - bonus buy features ARE bets. They are simply one large bet on the outcome of a bonus feature. 

 

Having reviewed the play history in question we are inclined to agree with your claim partially. You did violate the maximum allowed bet term whilst playing with a bonus. This does invalidate the bonus contract and would result in your balance being reset to pre-bonus conditions. 

 

However, you completed the wagering requirement with 789.45ZAR. Resetting your balance to pre-bonus conditions would leave you 361ZAR. The majority of the balance that has been voided was accumulated AFTER the wagering requirement was completed, and can be attributed to non-bonus play given that your balance did not drop by 361ZAR after that point.

 

As such, we view would view 5346.75ZAR to be legitimate winnings and will contact the operator to discuss further.

 

Thanks,


I was very happy with this feedback i received 2 weeks ago i expected this to be resolved already by now but received no feedback since then from them i did also make contact with bcasinos complaints the department 12 days ago and the also said this will be investigated and there time frame for resolution is 10 days but yet again have received no reply from them as well from 11 days ago.


Please can you assist me with this as you can see that i only asking for the right thing to be done from there side.

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8 months ago

hi nick did you recieve my response

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8 months ago

Hello Lucan8888,

Yes your post here here and visible. Is it possible to forward your full betting history form the account and forward it to nikolas.b@casino.guru?

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8 months ago

Hi nick have sent you the requested info on your mail

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7 months ago

Hello Lucan8888,

Based on the screenshot provided by the casino and the betting history, it is more likely that the comp points are considered as bonus money, the max bet should have been 10% of the 358 rand. As you did breach the max bet multiple times by betting over 35 rand, the casino had right to void the winnings generated from this bonus.

Even in case the comp points would not be considered as bonus, you still did a bet of 120 rand which is higher as the maximum allowed 60 anyway.

Is there anything else we could assist you with?

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7 months ago

Dear Lucan8888,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.

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7 months ago

Nick you were no help to me nut fortunaly a other complaint site did assist me and my funds are getting paid to me maybe make more of an effort next time


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7 months ago

We’ve rejected this complaint as per the player’s explicit request. We are sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us in the future if you run into issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help. 

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