3 months ago
Iv tried leaving the thread. Iv even asked casino.guru to disable my account. Nothing happens!! I wish you all well but please think carefully about what you are doing
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Iv tried leaving the thread. Iv even asked casino.guru to disable my account. Nothing happens!! I wish you all well but please think carefully about what you are doing
C'mon man... from what I understand, the letter said something like this:
USERS have been trying to manipulate transactions information
The claims made about manipulating transaction information are vague and lack concrete evidence. The letter supposedly states that users are "trying to manipulate transaction information," but there is no detailed explanation or legal citation provided.
Without seeing the specific legal grounds or evidence they are basing their threats on, it’s challenging to take these claims seriously. Legal threats without clear evidence and proper legal context are often tactics to silence consumer complaints.
Stop trashing the thread please, you've posted 100 times now.
You should be banned for spamming.
Sluta förpesta tråden tack, du har skrivit 100 gånger nu.
Du borde bli avstängd för spam.
Could you send one of us here on the forum privately these files so we can see what is illegal in our operations.
Voisitko lähettää jollekkin meistä täällä foorumilla olevista yksityisesti nämä tiedostot jotta voisimme katsoa mikä toiminnassamme on laitonta.
Morning all
i have removed all of my posts on this forum and suggest you all do to. I have been contacted by a company who’s name appears on this thread a lot who have been reading this thread and what we are doing is actually illegal and they intend on prosecuting anyone who continues to publicly post about these refunds.
I would get this thread closed down if I was casino.guru as it’s harming more people in the long run. The payment processor isn’t messing around and we can all be sued for this.
Hi, we took the position that every player has freedom of speech and expression and as long as it is not against our rules, there was basically no reason to delete this thread. It will remain that way and from our point of view we basically let the players communicate their problems.
In addition, to tell you the truth, we have also contacted 2 casinos who have written to us about this thread, but to date we have not heard back from them, so we are still waiting for an update from them.
We are not in a position to deal with questions about what is legal and illegal, because we are not lawyers, so I would leave this area to the people who handle it.
Therefore, this is what I would add to it and of course everyone has the opportunity to evaluate whether and what he/she wants to write here.
Due to breaching the rules again, I'm banning your account.
Hi, any chance you can reveal these casinos? I have a strong suspicion which casinos…
if they are right and they think we are committing a crime why are they afraid and even contact maintenance to remove this thread?. This chain would be a lottery win for them, here are all of us who have committed a "crime" according to them, they would sue us and get compensation... right?
Hei, onko sinulla mahdollisuuksia paljastaa näitä kasinoita? Minulla on vahva epäilys mitkä kasinot…
jos he ovat oikeassa ja heidän mielestään syyllistymme rikokseen miksi he pelkäävät ja ottavat jopa ylläpitoon yhteyttä tämän ketjun poistamiseksi?. Tämä ketjuhan olisi heille lottovoitto, täällä olemme kaikki me, jotka olemme syyllistyneet heidän mukaansa "rikokseen" he haastaisivat meidät oikeuteen ja saisivat korvauksia… vai?
You seem like a very confused person, take care and have a nice day. ☀️👌
Du verkar vara en väldigt förvirrad person, ta hand om dig och ha en fin dag. ☀️👌
Let's get this straight.
-Contacting payment gateways, payment operators, casinos and asking for a refund due to an incorrect MCC code and transaction laundering is NOT illegal. They can simply just declare that they think one is wrong, and not pay anything back.
-To contact the same actors and request a refund due to an invented reason, e.g. that you have not received the money, may be an attempt at fraud.
-Threatening any actor with violence, harassment, etc. may be illegal
-Making a card complaint to your bank and not being honest about receiving the money for casino games is an attempt at fraud, i.e. illegal
-Making a card complaint to your bank and being honest that it went to the casino is not illegal. However, the bank can choose to freeze your accounts (temporarily) or terminate you as a customer if they judge you to be a high-risk customer.
The thread does not need to be closed down. The basic question is not wrong. It is a gray area regarding how legal or not it is with "transaction laundering" and the use of incorrect MCC codes - it is absolutely not Mastercard and ViSA's policies, but legally it is more of a gray area. This is probably why some choose to repay and others do not.
As long as one adheres to this, and adheres to the truth, one cannot be convicted of any crime. On the other hand, I have also warned several times in the past that it is an attempt at fraud to lie to/withhold the truth from your bank if you make a card complaint. Even if you email these companies and lie and e.g. says you haven't received the casino deposit, it could possibly be fraud. However, I find it very difficult to see that they would think it worth pursuing an expensive legal process against any individual for such small sums.
Låt oss klargöra detta.
-Att kontakta payment gateways, betalningsaktörer, casinon och be om återbetalning på grund av felaktig MCC kod och transaction laundering är INTE olagligt. De kan helt enkelt bara förklara att de tycker att en har fel, och inte betala tillbaka någonting.
-Att kontakta samma aktörer och begära återbetalning pga påhittad anledning, t.ex. att man inte mottagit pengarna, kan vara försök till bedrägeri.
-Att hota någon aktör med våld, trakasserier etc. kan vara olagligt
-Att göra en kortreklamation till sin bank och inte vara ärlig med att man mottagit pengarna till casinospel är försök till bedrägeri dvs olagligt
-Att göra en kortreklamation till sin bank och vara ärlig med att det gått till casino är inte olagligt. Däremot kan banken välja att frysa dina konton (tillfälligt) eller säga upp dig som kund om de bedömer dig vara en högriskkund.
Tråden behöver inte stängas ner. Den grundläggande frågeställningen är inte felaktig. Det är ett gråområde gällande hur lagligt eller ej det är med "transaction laundering" och användning av felaktiga MCC-koder -det är absolut not Mastercard och ViSAs policys, men rent legalt är det mer en gråzon. Det är antagligen därför vissa väljer att betala tillbaka och andra inte.
Så länge man håller sig till detta, och håller sig till sanningen, kan man inte bli dömd för något brott. Däremot har även jag flera gånger tidigare varnat för att det är försök till bedrägeri att ljuga för/undanhålla sanningen för sin bank om man gör en kortreklamation. Även om man mailar dessa företag och ljuger och t.ex. säger att man inte mottagit casinoinbetalningen, skulle det eventuellt kunna vara bedrägeri. Jag har dock väldigt svårt att se att de skulle tycka att det är värt att driva en kostsam rättslig process mot någon individ för dett för sådana låga summor det handlar om.
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