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11 months ago by montella85
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5 months ago

But why are the discussions from 3 years ago, when in fact they are from 1 month ago?

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5 months ago

Hi, is it too late to try to get the money back from the accounts? 2 friends, around 3 thousand euros

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smartvendor000
5 months ago

Hi, if you answer to someone specific it would be helpful to use the "reply" button. It will notify the player that you have replied, so you can reduce the time it takes to respond. 

smartvendor000
5 months ago

HI

We have already left, but since we have to clarify the position of 3/4 people perhaps the lawyer will be able to get you in too. In any case, send me your email address and respond QUICKLY.

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Valdivia_bis
5 months ago

smartvendor000@gmail.com

the money accounts belong to two friends, thanks for the help.

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Valdivia_bis
5 months ago

HI,

I also have to recover 453 euros from my Geniuswin account.

Am I still in time to participate?

email: alex_cerizza95@hotmail.it

Thank you

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Valdivia_bis
5 months ago

Hi, I'll add something that maybe I'm "ahead" of you. Two months ago I started a debt collection procedure with a lawyer. The judge has issued a payment order, but Geniuswin's partners do not respond, so we have to proceed with the foreclosure. The lawyer found the company's bank account, but we don't know if it is still active and if there are funds available. To find out and, possibly, seize the funds, I would have to face a further expense of 150 euros (in addition to the 200 already spent). Have any of you managed to seize anything? Otherwise, I'm not sure I want to spend any more money trying my luck.

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Pipperz
5 months ago

However, it should be the licensee who covers the missed payments of the books to which he issues the license.

There are also some sentences about it.

Couldn't the lawyer leverage this aspect?

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danimola
5 months ago

I'm not aware of this, do you have any references?

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Pipperz
5 months ago

https://www.assopoker.com/business/cassazione-bookmaker-monopoli-stato_181470/

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Pipperz
5 months ago

HI

We have just started drafting the formal notice, so we still don't know anything and are waiting for a response. In any case we keep in touch. I can't believe these sons of bitches can get away so easily in this shitty country.

As Danilo says, there is the famous "guarantee guarantee", so by law ADM should be the one to cover these sums (but pay attention to the terms: the concessionaire in this case is Genius, i.e. the person receiving the concession. ADM would be the grantor). Even if I don't know specifically if our situation falls into the category, it depends on what the people at Genius have done


PS. Also let me know if it was you who wrote this post that they forwarded to me file


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5 months ago

Email from ADM has now arrived


Given the above, it should be noted that the relationship established between the Concessionaire and the player with the signing of the gaming account contract has private value and defines the mutual contractual constraints; the management of relationships with players falls under the exclusive responsibility of the Concessionaire, in particular, compliance with the obligations and responsibilities as set out in article 12 of the gaming account contract is recalled. Therefore, the right of the parties to contact the competent Judicial Authority to obtain recognition of their rights always remains intact

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Valdivia_bis
5 months ago

HI! Yes that's exactly my post.

I have already done all the steps: warning (never responded), court order (never responded), investigation into the dealer's assets (1 current account). So far it cost 200. Now I would have to spend another 150 euros to try to seize an account that I don't even know if it is still open or full. The chances of getting something back have gone down with every judgment step, so I'm afraid I'll stop here..



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Pipperz
5 months ago

I don't know why they limited themselves to telling you about the account being seized, when in reality it is a crime and criminal proceedings would be appropriate. Civil action is not enough.

However, it all depends on the amount you need to recover. To be alone, €200 spent is gold, practically nothing. We are many users and since there are people who have to recover several thousand euros (some users even 10k and 20k) we will certainly consider proceeding through criminal proceedings, in the worst case scenario.

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Valdivia_bis
5 months ago

Yes, but in fact I only spent living expenses, I was lucky. But it seems to me that there is not much hope of seeing the money again, if it isn't there it isn't there, regardless of whether the case is civil or criminal. I wish you good luck and if you are successful I will try to retrace your steps later.

As regards the proof of how much you had in the account, were you able to resolve it somehow? Because since the site no longer exists, my fear is that there isn't even proof of what we had (some of my friends who have the same problem with GeniusWin don't remember it, and in fact they are waiting in the meantime to see how it went for me who had at least a screenshot).

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Pipperz
5 months ago

It is not necessary to have proof of the outstanding balance, since everything is recorded by the Monopolies, these are data that Sogei can easily trace back to.

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4 months ago

Hi everyone, any news these weeks?


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danimola
4 months ago

HI

Nothing yet, as soon as I know something more I will write to everyone

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danimola
4 months ago

HI! Yes, the lawyer just informed me that the foreclosure on Geniuswin cannot be done because the only account in the LLC's name is empty. So the only hope would be to file another lawsuit directly against ADM but I don't know whether to face the legal costs again, it all seems so unlikely to me now

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3 months ago

Hi guys, good morning, let me start by saying that in my opinion these guys got away with our money (Geniuswin), we are not even protected by AAMS because they should intervene and pay all the bettors, today on top of that for being taken for a ride, not to mention another word, I receive an email from geniuswin with a deposit bonus, I just hope that our money will buy many of those medicines.

If you have any news, write thanks

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