Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 71)

Breathe in deeply, breathe out deeply, my friend.

Humor definitely doesn't seem to be your strong point😉

I did that too. Let's see if that helps. Actually, they already know the topic 😅

In and of itself I thought it was all written, but no, you're obviously one of those people who kick and bite "convicted"!

Well, clearly, because I simply don't like people like that and they don't belong to my personal environment:

You repeat the facts that I have cited (which, unlike you, I always back up with "sources"), but you still fail to provide proof for the allegations you cite.

Now you're trying to excuse yourself by saying, I quote:

"And I won’t tell you which casinos they are as they are ongoing proceedings. You should be able to understand it yourself, right? "

Alright, you have an "ongoing case against Casino XXX, and as far as I’m concerned also against "Pfefferminzia"

I would agree with that, absolutely, because no one has to endanger themselves. The stupid thing about your statement is that you wouldn't do this at all, so your "protection claim is pure nonsense!!!

Why? Because you are not the only plaintiff against Casino XXX, but there are hundreds if not thousands of plaintiffs and you even write this yourself (that is "plural" not "singular"!!!), I quote you again:

"And in the case of more than one casino, the plaintiffs’ disputed values are explicitly discussed in writing in the annual financial statements, which were then no longer taken into account in the figures - with the justification that I gave."

I'm sorry, what?? So there are balance sheets of several casinos (i.e. not the one you are suing against) and not just you but ( proven!!!) hundreds or thousands of other plaintiffs, but "you are afraid" to mention the balance sheet of a (other) casino ?

Because there are "several casinos", it could well be the balance sheet of casino Z instead of your casino XXX!), in the appendix(!) of which the justification you claim is! That's why it's almost impossible to identify you based on a mention here!!!

Sorry, but you don't want to, you can't deliver!!

Your "protective claim" is not only the laughing stock, but the "howler" of the day and against you the "Stories of Baron von Münchausen" are a laughing stock!

And so that you can learn something else (not my intention at all, but perhaps interesting for others in this forum), the explanation on the appendix to a balance sheet, also on the "provisions" item

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhang_(annual financial statements)

https://www.startpage.com/sp/search

No "I could, but I don’t have to", but rather "must", based on clear guidelines/regulations!

These are all business and legal "legal terms" that you probably only have half-knowledge of, if at all!

Oh yes, because you also made fun of the fact that my posts are often longer: It's not my fault if you have difficulty reading and - above all - "understanding" more than three coherent sentences!

Some issues - especially legal and business issues - are simply not easier to present in order to be understood, which still fails for you!

Finally : I would like to duel with you "Mentally", but I see that you are "Unarmed".

My aim is -still not- to "fold you up" here, but to ensure that the - hopefully former- "gamers" in this forum are not unsettled by statements like yours

• we will never see our money again
• Online casinos conceal and falsify balance sheets
• willfully initiate insolvency proceedings
• will never pay

Which is all nonsense, because every company - including online casinos - will fulfill its obligations - in the long term - if it can make a profit now and in the future! Under no circumstances should you willingly risk your license (even if it's just Malta)!

The strategy and tactics of online casinos (caused of course by good legal advisors) is:

• Uncertainty & attrition of the former players
• by refusing to pay the "legally valid claims"
• using all possible legal remedies
• as long as it is legally possible

with the aim of

• to compare existing titles with significant reductions in receivables
• to avoid new legal proceedings through "deterrence".
• thereby reaching the statute of limitations

Unfortunately, all of this is legally legitimate.

But: Every article that is published here and leads to the uncertainty of players in the above sense causes the "champagne corks" to go up among the operators in the casinos, as it shows exactly:

The players are becoming more and more unsettled, we are achieving our goal

Let us show them through optimism and appropriate contributions, courage and confidence - and not through complaining or insecurity -: "No - you won't achieve that!!!"

You'd better read my posts first and "understand" them.

Comments like yours are not suitable for generating confidence and are completely unnecessary!

And with that I'm "out" here!

For me there is simply too much "supposition", pure nonsense and UNCERTAINTY instead of confidence.

I have won a lawsuit and will receive my money, I am quite sure that I see it the same way as Dr. Karim Weber from G&L.

Some things just take time. And again:

First, "gambling" accepting the loss (possibly for years), and then and only having the chance to get back the money that had already been gambled away because someone in the past "had balls in their pants" and with "Attorney's help" obtained a claim for repayment in court and got everything "rolling", now here I'm complaining that we have to wait because the casinos are of course defending themselves... -with respect- I probably lack the necessary knowledge for that and Insight and also understanding!

Your money was gone before the lawsuits, not after!

When I have received my money, I will not announce here how this happened - possibly in another way - which should be the real reason for this forum - but rather just be happy about it!

Hey, I agree with you. I've also tried to explain to one or two people that you don't need to worry. But for some, hops and malt are unfortunately lost. I wish you a nice weekend. Greetings from Bremen.

Goodbye, no one will miss you here.

The "specialists" from Germany have no idea, especially since the legal situation there is simply different and cannot be applied to Austria. The limitation periods put forward as a motive for the casino tactics are also absurd in Austria because the limitation period is much longer here than in Germany... there 10 here 30 years....so nothing expires here, you're more likely to scrape it off sooner than it expires and even that doesn't help them because the claims are probably passed on....plus I have to agree with Stefan that they are with theirs "Provisions" do what they want (namely, create almost none) and simply move the assets from their ltd. to the parent company, which they call "deconsolidation proceeds" and send the ltd into bankruptcy, and this is also different than perhaps in Germany Here in Austria there are judgments according to which the parent company is not liable, which is exactly why recently no action has been taken against the parent company but against the managing directors personally, whether there is anything to be gained there is more than questionable....

You're talking such nonsense. Boy, I just wish you were the only one who didn't get his money back. Your dangerous lack of knowledge is just annoying. You had enough time to inform yourself for years and then such rubbish comes out. But thank God I'm not the only one who notices this.

So just stay in your world and just leave others happy. Nobody wants to read anything from you here. Bye Bye.

Unfortunately it is exactly as you say.

The casinos now have another 1-2 years, should the ECJ come forward at all (which is fortunately likely) on the part of the plaintiffs, and they will probably use the time. I think in the end the players will be right - but in the end there will still be no money because the casinos will file for bankruptcy.

Everyone wants to get their money back, but it's no use telling yourself that the money will definitely come back - the disappointment will be enormous if it turns out that you don't get anything anymore.

What I don't fully understand is why the Internet Rambo "Crusader" wants to bring unrest into this forum...

So frustrated? He only speaks the truth. I don't understand why you have to get personal then.

Nobody can guarantee that the money will come back - that's a fact! The casinos are clever and if there was no chance they would pay too! Corruption in Malta is also a serious enemy. They simply send the companies into bankruptcy and found a new one, unfortunately it's that easy there.

This abelinglaekamp is the most clueless complete idiot on the entire internet and is acting all-knowing while not even uttering a sentence that makes sense. What I have written is not half-knowledge but simple facts from cases that I personally know and have seen and read. If you don't want to read that, byebye and fuck yourself...

Why then do the PKF happily continue to take on cases as if nothing had happened?

mmn. Nothing is clear yet and it remains exciting to see what happens next.

There is clearly no clear direction to be seen here.

the lawyers tell the PKF investors the same shit that they tell us, namely that the legal situation is clear... the lawyers don't care either because they are the only ones who win in every case and get their money... No matter how clear the legal situation may be, it's of no use if the rule of law simply doesn't work and being right and getting justice or even justice are completely different things. Apparently it's easy to shit on Austrian law when you're abroad and are protected by foreign states and even at home the state doesn't take action against illegal activities but collects on the illegal income.

It's not that simple either. They also want their 37% commission. And working for hopeless cases is not the real thing either.

Which casino did you sue????

The lawyers do not work on a commission basis, they are paid in any case, only the PKF are on a commission basis and in the end they also get their commission if they only recover a minimal percentage from the insolvency settlement. When an ablelinglaekamp spouts his bullshit like "you're all guaranteed to get your money" he probably means that at some point in ~100 years we'll all probably get at least this small percentage of our claim from the insolvency estate, of which ~40% will then go to the legal costs financier. ...to recognize a functioning constitutional state requires a high degree of imagination...

Chinyuhansinhua which casino did you sue?

but the PKF do not work for a minimal percentage. If that were the case, you would have withdrawn long ago by now and the issue of "recovering gambling losses" would have been settled.

The lawyers only receive money once the judgment has been carried out. I got this information directly from my lawyer. They don't get anything beforehand