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abelinglaekamp
8 months ago

My first lawsuit has been running against P*****casino (district court and regional court) since 2021 and has been legally binding and enforceable since the beginning of 2022, but still nothing happens.

The answer was always the same: "Currently, no execution proceedings will be continued in Malta until there is a decision on the "model" execution proceedings that have been pending for over a year. The P*****Casino (just like Mr Green, Pokerstars and others) rely on the so-called "ordre public" and take the view that execution is inadmissible in Malta. Only when this objection is legally rejected by the Maltese execution courts will new execution procedures be initiated (or, ideally, they will no longer be necessary!).


And since 2023 I've been getting the answer that everything is on hold because of Bill 55...

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unbekannterweise
8 months ago

Yes, but this Bill 55 is just a delay, because gfbaz have known exactly since 2009, THE EU Court of Justice ruled for the first time that every nation state has the right to protect its population from gambling by restricting the freedom to provide services here under §56 . Austria and Germany have acted in accordance with the Union since 2009/10/11. In 2021, your standard also reported on a ECJ decision against illegal advertising in Austria, which was classified by the ECJ as compliant, so remains illegal, etc. It is and remains a delaying tactic, nothing more. But the rule of law is still intact, even if it works slowly. As you said, Bill55 is contrary to EU law and will be rejected. All proceedings pending before the courts in Malta will then be quickly ended, as a second instance will no longer be allowed to be involved because the European enforcement orders will be effective again, as they always were. Another Maltese court is then no longer allowed to deal with a judgment and then allows the security deposits that the casinos had to deposit to be paid out. This is my understanding of law, I would have to ask whether it is law.

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abelinglaekamp
8 months ago

We'll see what happens.


I have further lawsuits with another PKF or lawyer who is quite good (one lawsuit has already been won, two others are still pending).

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unbekannterweise
8 months ago

So I'm very optimistic for you. The cases are getting away from them, otherwise they would never have created such a construct as they are currently doing in Malta with the request to the ECJ.

I hope that these German mafia casino lawyers and this hillbilly lawyer from SH, whose name I won't mention again here, will have to answer for this under professional and criminal law here in Germany.

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unbekannterweise
8 months ago

So, I have to continue working in my electric truck. Break over. Have a nice weekend and stay relaxed everyone. The law will win.

Greetings from Bremen

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abelinglaekamp
8 months ago

Have a safe trip and have a nice weekend 😁

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unbekannterweise
8 months ago

Nope, I'm just on the factory premises, lol. 13 hours. Pure driving time is about 20 minutes a day. Place the container on the ramp and remove it again. And rest a lot 😂😂

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abelinglaekamp
8 months ago

But thank you. Greetings to Austria.

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abelinglaekamp
8 months ago

I also wonder how the Germans can view these criminals as trustworthy and issue them licenses when they know full well that European law is being broken, legally binding judgments are not being paid and enforcement is being thwarted?! The corrupt rabble shits on the injured parties, they would rather collect bribes and taxes from the criminals and look the other way....

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8 months ago

Guys, I don't understand, Malta has brought out a new bill55 that you can no longer execute.

I see every day on the ecourts page that new cases are being accepted, not just one but several.

Have they changed their minds now or are the cases always accepted but not judged?

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unbekannterweise
8 months ago

how did you get it there? Have you found a contact address from the 21st century? If so, please let me know!

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8 months ago

how did you get it there? Have you found a contact address from the 21st century? If so, please let me know!

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Stefan123450
8 months ago

ah thanks, I logically looked on the website of the European Parliament where they obviously want to avoid any contact....I'll write to Harald V. What do you think of the following text: Woof, woof, grrrrrr, barrel of Malta......

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chinyuhansinhua
8 months ago

I think your usual texts with the champagne-sipping super casino villains who please high-class prostitutes on their million-dollar yachts are much more suitable ;D

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alipirhan
8 months ago

These are probably all of the 250 sample procedures.

It always takes time to get the title, which is why new ones are always being added

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8 months ago




"According to the private interest group German Lotto Association, the dispute over gambling law will continue, especially since the EU also has concerns about the State Treaty on Gambling, which is now valid nationwide."



"After a ruling by the European Court of Justice (ECJ), the states had to reform the state treaty. The ECJ had set limits on the state monopoly: this could only be justified by the protection of general interests if effective precautions were taken to protect them. "



"The Federal Court of Justice had taken Schleswig-Holstein's special approach in response to a lawsuit against the old state treaty that had landed with it. He now submitted to the ECJ the question of whether it is a violation of the freedom to provide services if a federal state does not participate and undermines the intention of the international treaty - the protection of the general public. The Karlsruhe judges themselves are of the opinion that this is not the case, since gambling law is a state competence and different regulations should therefore be possible - at least as long as the aim of the state treaty is only "insignificantly impaired". They also asked the ECJ this question about the transition period for the current licenses, which still applies after Schleswig-Holstein joins the state treaty.



"The EU Commission has already sent several inquiries to the countries and expressed fundamental concerns about the still restrictive rules. "


https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBEE90N03W/

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leo2023
8 months ago

In Germany it's the problem because every federal state has different rules.

That's exactly why we in Austria don't understand why the judgments aren't paid. In our case it has been uniformly regulated several times by the monopoly and also confirmed by the ECJ.

The casinos will try everything and it won't work for them. You now have the licenses in DE and suddenly want to clarify again whether there should have been licenses beforehand and whether the freedom to provide services had been restricted (retroactively?)? Seriously ? That's so against everything they're doing now with the licenses they've had with you since 2021...

They already have everything and make billions and now want to get even more retroactively, even though it has been confirmed several times by the ECJ...?!

They try to go through Germany and then also through Austria, in order to then say that if the EU country had allowed it like that, then this EU country would also have had to handle it that way... it's so sick and so transparent what they're planning!

it is all the more important that Germany maintains uniform jurisprudence.


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leo2023
8 months ago

Besides, what do they want? The requirements are actually more than sufficient, the deposit limit was raised to 10,000 euros and the GGL was founded specifically.

All the better if everything is consistent...

These criminals don't need to be upset

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voizua92
8 months ago

Deposit limit? per deposit? per day? per hour? In total? Here in Austria they continue to do so illegally, ignoring any player protection and you can make unlimited deposits...


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chinyuhansinhua
8 months ago

https://www.ra-goldenstein.de/neuigkeiten/ggl-erhoeht-satzlimits/


Yes, that is so pathologically contradictory.

That's why you can't understand what they want before the ECJ... they've never adhered to anything, let alone money laundering laws

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