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Nomadsteve
1 year ago

Can you post this in another thread? Your topic has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

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1 year ago

Hi, can anyone recommend a good lawyer who works in Malta and specializes in casino complaints. Thank you.

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1 year ago

Hi, can anyone recommend a good lawyer who works in Malta and specializes in casino complaints. Thank you.

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1 year ago

The lawyer does not have to work in Malta. Due to the ROM 1 regulation, you can file a lawsuit in the country in which you have your habitual residence.

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1 year ago

Now belongs to N1 as far as I know, so heavy chunk.


I would wish that Casino.Guru could provide a little support here in finding out-of-court solutions. I just filed a complaint against sol.casino

I hope Casino.Guru (@radka) can take care of it, it can also be dealt with "not publicly".


at least there is a representative of Sol.Casino here

Casino is ranked 3rd on the list so Casino.Guru has enough power to intervene here too and say "you are illegal if you continue there then if you have any complaints you have to deal with the people too" I offered 74% , considering the legal situation, that's probably more than fair!

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1 year ago

I can see your complaint remains open so it's currently hard to say how it's going to develop.

1 year ago

I would wish that Casino.Guru could provide a little support here in finding out-of-court solutions. I've just filed a complaint against sol.casino - let's see how you react to it

I hope Casino.Guru (@radka) can take care of it, it can also be dealt with "not publicly". Also, when do you have to understand that this is really about crime. And about human existence. Online casinos are illegal in Austria. That's a fact. Only win2day.at is legal!


at least there is a representative of Sol.Casino here

Casino is ranked 3rd on the list so Casino.Guru has enough power to intervene here as well and say "you are illegal if you continue there then if you have any complaints you have to deal with the people too" I offered 74% , considering the legal situation, that's probably more than fair!


I already know that you are a big affiliate, but it would be nice to use this power to stand out from other casino sites like Askgambler, Casinomeister and Co. So far I think it's very good how you behave in general and also address the negative aspects of the online game, among other things with your explanatory videos on the subject.


the worldwide initiative is also welcome and really great.


maybe you can create a separate section for damaged games, i think that would save a life or two. One must not forget that in the online casinos €40,000 per day can be paid in without any problems and nobody asks where the money comes from. Three days later, the player commits suicide. We have that again and again in Austria.


And you can see from this discussion how many people are already using their rights with lawyers and litigation financiers and are trying to get their lost money back. And then in the end you don't get anything or you have to be prepared for years of processes and waiting.


out-of-court settlements like the ones I offer at 70-74% are really fair and have the benefit of the casino still making a sizeable profit. After a court case, things look very different. the legal fees are €10,000 and I get 100% +4% interest. But of course it takes a lot of time until then.

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1 year ago

I think it might be an issue of a wrong translation, but what do you mean by

"Maybe you can create a separate section for damaged games, i think that would save a life or two."?

1 year ago

I have been waiting since the 18th of May for a withdrawal from Love casino, when I chat with them they say that it takes approximately 21 working days to receive my money, my account was verified right from the start so there is no issue with that, I was just wondering if there was any body else has had problems with this casino

1 year ago

21 working days to receive a withdrawal from an online casino while your account is already verified? That's just bullshit. It doesn't take that long!

Can you please give me a link to the Love Casino? I don't see it in our database.

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1 year ago

The lawyer does not have to work in Malta. Due to the ROM 1 regulation, you can file a lawsuit in the country in which you have your habitual residence.

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1 year ago

That's true, but it's always better to have a lawyer who has experience with online gambling environment. Those lawyers are often based in Malta. I'm not sure about the situation in Austria, but it would be very difficult to find a lawyer with online gambling specialization in the Czech Republic.

Daniel
1 year ago

sorry daniel. This is nonsense. In Malta there are only lawyers who work for the gambling mafia. Nobody will help you there and in EVERY country there are lawyers who specialize in casinos or unjust enrichment.

the best lawyers on the subject are in Austria. They've defeated Enttain, MrGreen, Williamhill and Betathome.

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1 year ago

I think it might be an issue of a wrong translation, but what do you mean by

"Maybe you can create a separate section for damaged games, i think that would save a life or two."?

1 year ago

I wish you would create a seperate Section for the enforcement of judgements. You have the power and could talk to the managements to stop wasting 10thousand of euros for lawsuits and lawyers and instead find an out of court settlement for everybody who is a victim of illegal gambling.

but this will stay just a wish, the same as your global self exclusion initiative. Great Idea but no casino is interested in this as they make the most money with addicted persons.


„save some lives"

2 friends of mine won at court get the judgement but never saw their money. They commited suicide.

my mentioned idea with casinoguru as mediator would prevent this

SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

So finding a good lawyer in Austria is not the problem, in court in Austria you can be successful with any lawyer who knows his way around!

The only problem is that providers like MrGreen simply ignore the judgments and therefore do not pay! You need a lawyer in Malta! Everyone says something different, one litigation financier says MrGreen is currently comparing and paying, others say that's not true and in Malta some have almost 10 negotiations in court where nothing comes of it!


Is it true that MrGreen has to deposit the money in court before a trial?

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1 year ago

So finding a good lawyer in Austria is not the problem, in court in Austria you can be successful with any lawyer who knows his way around!

The only problem is that providers like MrGreen simply ignore the judgments and therefore do not pay! You need a lawyer in Malta! Everyone says something different, one litigation financier says MrGreen is currently comparing and paying, others say that's not true and in Malta some have almost 10 negotiations in court where nothing comes of it!


Is it true that MrGreen has to deposit the money in court before a trial?

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1 year ago

Yes, that's right. The money must be deposited with the court. There will certainly be a lot going on in the next two years on this subject, also because of the planned law in Malta.

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SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

That will never happen. Casino Guru still advertises illegal casinos and also earns their money with it. It would be a start not to show these casinos to Austrians and Germans in the first place.

Your complaint here at Casino Guru will be rejected on the grounds that they don't care about the laws in Austria and Germany and you are responsible for it yourself. So you can save your time. It's like asking a tobacco shop to stop selling tobacco. Casino Guru will not even contact the casino, they just refuse.

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1 year ago

That will never happen. Casino Guru still advertises illegal casinos and also earns their money with it. It would be a start not to show these casinos to Austrians and Germans in the first place.

Your complaint here at Casino Guru will be rejected on the grounds that they don't care about the laws in Austria and Germany and you are responsible for it yourself. So you can save your time. It's like asking a tobacco shop to stop selling tobacco. Casino Guru will not even contact the casino, they just refuse.

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1 year ago

We will see. They also hide behind a shell company in Curacao and there is no imprint here. But I know fellow students from Bratislava from the founders. In the next lawsuit, I will name Casino-Guru as the second defendant, namely the managing directors personally. If only because of the false information they spread here.

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SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

Sounds very adventurous what you write here, just fails in reality. It's not Casino Guru who illegally withhold your money, it's the casino.

Don't get me wrong, I think Casino Guru is absolutely screwed morally, but when it comes to casino refunds, it's hard to sue Casino Guru. It's not about personal well-being, but simply about legal responsibilities. So please stay a little down to earth and above all realistic.

It simply doesn't help anyone here if things are claimed that simply have absolutely no chance of success.

Here we should share information that really helps and does not mislead other players.

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1 year ago

Sounds very adventurous what you write here, just fails in reality. It's not Casino Guru who illegally withhold your money, it's the casino.

Don't get me wrong, I think Casino Guru is absolutely screwed morally, but when it comes to casino refunds, it's hard to sue Casino Guru. It's not about personal well-being, but simply about legal responsibilities. So please stay a little down to earth and above all realistic.

It simply doesn't help anyone here if things are claimed that simply have absolutely no chance of success.

Here we should share information that really helps and does not mislead other players.

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1 year ago

Oh don't worry I am a lawyer and already won the important judgments in 2017.

if someone advertises illegal gambling, they are jointly and severally liable. That is my legal position. And we'll see how the courts see it. Above all, "accepts players from Austria" suggests that everything is in order and legal and that is misleading and deception and thus grossly negligent if not intentional and therefore also a subject relevant to criminal law.

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SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

please But now it gets really ridiculous.

What stories are you telling here? If you're a lawyer, then I'm Tom Cruise.


Advofin won the most important judgments at the time. And if you had only been there to a limited extent, you wouldn't be writing such nonsense here that you want to sue Casino Guru for a refund. Even a legal layman can see what nonsense that is.

And besides, you'd be swimming in cash and certainly not filing a complaint with Casino Guru about Sol Casino. 🙂

But leave that, I don't want to waste my time with fantasy stories anymore.

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Malaga
1 year ago

If you mean... 😉

we will see. Let's revisit the topic at the end of 2024.

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SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

Hi,


I would like to ask you a question as a european lawyer : Casino with curaçao licence has company in Cyprus. This company is also on footers of the casino. Those company in Cyprus has as director accounting and lawyer of cyprus. They said they are not responsible but just managing company, but I really don't think they can be director of the company and said that they are not responsible and only act for "client", and of course they are not giving any name...So please tell me if they are responsible legally in court ? Thanks a lot

1 year ago

Hi,


I would like to ask you a question as a european lawyer : Casino with curaçao licence has company in Cyprus. This company is also on footers of the casino. Those company in Cyprus has as director accounting and lawyer of cyprus. They said they are not responsible but just managing company, but I really don't think they can be director of the company and said that they are not responsible and only act for "client", and of course they are not giving any name...So please tell me if they are responsible legally in court ? Thanks a lot

1 year ago

Hello Tamera. Unfortunately, I only know Austrian and German law. In France, I don't know which legal opinion you want to claim money back from. In general, both the Curacao company and the Cyprus company are just shell companies. The owners mostly come from Ukraine, Lithuania, Estonia or Latvia. In Curacao the shareholders are mostly consulting firms like the Allyant Group and in Cyprus it is either the tax consultancy Papadakis or the law firm Michael Chambers.


In general, the casino in Curacao is actually your contractual partner. A construction to sue the payment processor in Cyprus at the same time is possible but somewhat complicated and depends on the actual case.

look for a lawyer in France, there's sure to be someone there.


all the best.

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1 year ago

do not pay despite the verdict

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