3 years ago
I'm new here and just thought I'd ask again, sorry you're just desperate when you've won in court and you don't see any money
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3 years ago
Yes, unfortunately we all feel that way
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3 years ago
I just think it's just a cheek and no higher authority is doing anything
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3 years ago
hey moin
what did your lawyer say?
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3 years ago
Hi I finally have to go to court LCS (wallacebet) refused to refund (btw they also have curaçao casinos..)
Do I have a form to complete for court ?
Thank you
3 years ago
I'm not familiar with France, I think that things are different for you than for us.
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3 years ago
we don't have much court case about casino, because we are ask to take a lawyer who will decide how to deal with it (in Malta, european or french court)
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3 years ago
Have your enforcements been refused by a court in Malta?
please describe in more detail.
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3 years ago
Yes. "Ordre public" always comes out. Google it. They recognize the foreign judgement, but domestic enforcement is against public order and is therefore rejected.
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3 years ago
In Austria, the gambling monopoly will probably remain for a long time and therefore there is no pressure on the casinos from here. Of course there are a few (also well-known providers) who pay, but the usual suspects can play forever and ultimately not pay. For an execution, there has to be something that can be executed, and the cash flows are so quick and opaque that there is simply nothing to be gained.
I don't want to belittle anyone's hope, but you also have to face the facts. Even the sum of all claims is probably not even the monthly turnover for the online casinos, but they simply don't want to pay and get away with it.
If the execution order is positive, the executor goes on site, takes furniture and other valuables (e.g. PCs) and auctions them off...you can wait forever until even one order is covered.
Unfortunately, as long as the Austrian government does not exert any pressure to bring about a solution, things look sad. And she's in a quandary...compare the intended official liability proceedings against the Republic.
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3 years ago
These are all shell companies. No one seizes any chattels, but there are pure monetary claims that are collected from third-party debtors or bank seizures.
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3 years ago
Hi I finally have to go to court LCS (wallacebet) refused to refund (btw they also have curaçao casinos..)
Do I have a form to complete for court ?
Thank you
3 years ago
This will only work with a lawyer, and it's also difficult in France because the gambling law is a bit different there. And besides, the courts in France are a disaster. I had a lawsuit for damages that went on for eight years about a go-kart accident.
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3 years ago
Has anyone ever gotten anything back from Rabbit Entertainment?
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3 years ago
Was a silent reader until now but wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with Platincasino
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3 years ago
Was a silent reader until now but wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with Platincasino
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3 years ago
Now belongs to N1 as far as I know, so heavy chunk.
I would wish that Casino.Guru could provide a little support here in finding out-of-court solutions. I just filed a complaint against sol.casino
I hope Casino.Guru (@radka) can take care of it, it can also be dealt with "not publicly".
at least there is a representative of Sol.Casino here
Casino is ranked 3rd on the list so Casino.Guru has enough power to intervene here too and say "you are illegal if you continue there then if you have any complaints you have to deal with the people too" I offered 74% , considering the legal situation, that's probably more than fair!
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3 years ago
The law is what it is and if players have the ability to recoup their losses, many do. It doesn't matter how you evaluate it morally, that's just the reality and it's in the nature of things.
I don't deny the fact that when players have the option of reclaiming the money back, then they can do so. I just wouldn't support it actively, recommending it to every single Austrian player in cases where the casino treated them fairly (and treated them as any other player who had the same chance for winnings).
The responsible gambling aspect you mentioned here brings a new light into the discussion. It's definitely better for Austrian players sticking to Austria licensed casinos if they bring the option of blocking yourself from all casinos (licensed in Austria) since this is the kind of protection you want to use when you feel like the gambling is getting out of your control.
On the other hand, I'm afraid that you'll reach exactly the same point they have in the Great Britain. You can block yourself from all UK licensed casinos through GAMSTOP. The result is that players who get blocked for a few years on GAMSTOP start looking for other casinos. MGA licensed casinos won't accept them (contrary to the situation in Austria) so they're forced to play in Curacao licensed or unlicensed casinos and they do play there.
The result is that they block themselves in casinos that are the best and safest for them on GAMSTOP. Then MGA casinos that are generally decent won't accept them, then the players are even more vulnerable since they can start playing in casinos that don't really care about any law. Some of those casinos can be great. Even we have for example Curacao licensed casinos with ratings 9+, but you surely know that playing in those or unlicensed casinos can be problematic. Their services provided differ a lot. Eventually, the biggest gamblers blocked in Austria will start playing in shady unlicensed casinos that won't care about responsible gambling at all and suing them won't have any effect.
3 years ago
I would wish that Casino.Guru could provide a little support here in finding out-of-court solutions. I've just filed a complaint against sol.casino - let's see how you react to it
I hope Casino.Guru (@radka) can take care of it, it can also be dealt with "not publicly". Also, when do you have to understand that this is really about crime. And about human existence. Online casinos are illegal in Austria. That's a fact. Only win2day.at is legal!
at least there is a representative of Sol.Casino here
Casino is ranked 3rd on the list so Casino.Guru has enough power to intervene here as well and say "you are illegal if you continue there then if you have any complaints you have to deal with the people too" I offered 74% , considering the legal situation, that's probably more than fair!
I already know that you are a big affiliate, but it would be nice to use this power to stand out from other casino sites like Askgambler, Casinomeister and Co. So far I think it's very good how you behave in general and also address the negative aspects of the online game, among other things with your explanatory videos on the subject.
the worldwide initiative is also welcome and really great.
maybe you can create a separate section for damaged games, i think that would save a life or two. One must not forget that in the online casinos €40,000 per day can be paid in without any problems and nobody asks where the money comes from. Three days later, the player commits suicide. We have that again and again in Austria.
And you can see from this discussion how many people are already using their rights with lawyers and litigation financiers and are trying to get their lost money back. And then in the end you don't get anything or you have to be prepared for years of processes and waiting.
out-of-court settlements like the ones I offer at 70-74% are really fair and have the benefit of the casino still making a sizeable profit. After a court case, things look very different. the legal fees are €10,000 and I get 100% +4% interest. But of course it takes a lot of time until then.
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3 years ago
Yes, exactly
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3 years ago
Platin Casino is red rhino Limited
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3 years ago
I have been waiting since the 18th of May for a withdrawal from Love casino, when I chat with them they say that it takes approximately 21 working days to receive my money, my account was verified right from the start so there is no issue with that, I was just wondering if there was any body else has had problems with this casino
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