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2 years ago by marketingskislo
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Tamera
1 year ago

By the time the EU vetoed it, they would have passed the law long ago.

Should there actually be stress with the EU, they will certainly leave the EU.

Sounds funny, but Malta relies on gambling.

all just my opinion.

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Judgement
1 year ago

Outside EU, mean no EU money, and only corruption which doesnt pay tax...

And also all EU streamers won't be able to stream there without a VISA and a work Visa, which mean also tax to pay, and declaration in their home countries...


Malta also have money coming from tourism, and with a VISA and without euro, they won't survive

1 year ago

@ max888 yes I had a lot of successes but not against N1. They're like Mister Green.


and leave the EU. That will be difficult because then they lose their main argument that they have a European license.

I don't think the law will go through because the EU will certainly do something about it. But it doesn't change anything because it's already in progress and the executions are being rejected. I am with my lawyer tomorrow and will discuss the matter with him.

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SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

Please keep us posted! Thanks!

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SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

Have your enforcements been refused by a court in Malta?

please describe in more detail.

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SeargentSlotty
1 year ago

... and on what grounds?

Please brief info what your lawyer said.

thank you 🙂

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kidpoker20
1 year ago

Hi,

I've been a reader for a while and just a little bit about myself:

After years of online poker (approx. €500 deposit) I started playing slots on the side last year and that was the beginning of the end....I then got into a spiral....debts, etc. and at the moment it's me fighting back out and on a very good path. But it's hard and difficult. However, there was a click in my brain some time ago and since then I see many things differently and above all the urge to gamble is gone.


Now to the link: If I interpret everything I read there correctly (with the help of Google Translate) these are not execution proceedings but rather the following:


The MGA and the corresponding ministry have made requests not to recognize the judgments of the national courts (Germany, Austria and Italy) and they want to be involved in the proceedings. All of these are NOT execution or enforcement proceedings. Under "Judgments" you will find judgments that have already been completed and the court came to the following verdict:


It is understandable that the ministry and the MGA want to get involved in ongoing processes, but they have lost nothing and have therefore rejected the application for participation in the process.

Unfortunately, it is not clear whether the judgments of other national courts are recognized or not.


I can well imagine that it would be very helpful for some to get at least part of the coal back, but especially for Austrians things are still looking rather bad with the usual suspects.

It is important to use the time now and get your life under control again and not count on the money for the time being.


lg




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1 year ago

What makes you think that things would look bad, especially in Austria? Please leave such statements that are more likely to be based on a feeling of yours than on real experiences. Especially in Austria you get your money. There is a very clear case law here and the vast majority of casinos also pay.

There are only a few exceptions who vehemently resist this and these are primarily Mr. Green and Pokerstars.


There are enough casinos that agree to a comparison or pay sooner or later.

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Malaga
1 year ago

In Austria, the gambling monopoly will probably remain for a long time and therefore there is no pressure on the casinos from here. Of course there are a few (also well-known providers) who pay, but the usual suspects can play forever and ultimately not pay. For an execution, there has to be something that can be executed, and the cash flows are so quick and opaque that there is simply nothing to be gained.

I don't want to belittle anyone's hope, but you also have to face the facts. Even the sum of all claims is probably not even the monthly turnover for the online casinos, but they simply don't want to pay and get away with it.

If the execution order is positive, the executor goes on site, takes furniture and other valuables (e.g. PCs) and auctions them off...you can wait forever until even one order is covered.

Unfortunately, as long as the Austrian government does not exert any pressure to bring about a solution, things look sad. And she's in a quandary...compare the intended official liability proceedings against the Republic.

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Sigesmund
1 year ago

I would say that the PF are analyzing the situation very carefully and since they are still funding proceedings, I am sure that money will start flowing soon!

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Max098
1 year ago

who finances new requests?

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1 year ago

Hello,

I've been a silent reader so far. So for me it is the case that I have also commissioned a law firm. After you asked Pk, I received an email that they were no longer accepting cases due to the current situation and it will probably be no different with others. For me it's about two cases (both 5 digits) with the red and green betting provider... Well, you've put us out of business there. The hope of seeing something again tends towards zero for me.




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Eddy
1 year ago

As long as nothing is clear about the new legal basis, they will not accept anything either, which is why the betting providers will no longer pay, at least until there is clarity about it. That means it all depends on what comes out. As if any of you would pay anything if you saw a chance to escape.

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1 year ago

Does someone have experience with a curaçao licence ? Or took one of those lawyer for representation against a curaçao licence ?

gtaonlinezocken
1 year ago

How did you manage that Mr G transferred?

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nicolekh
1 year ago

You offered me a comparison.

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gtaonlinezocken
1 year ago

So you didn't even go to court?

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nicolekh
1 year ago

Of course! It took 2.5 years. But I don't want to repeat myself over and over again. Please read the history.

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1 year ago

Question are there more people here who have already got money back from Mr.G after winning a court decision? LG

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nicolekh
1 year ago

Even if it didn't change anything...

Doesn't look like it if you read the history though.

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