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BetItAll Casino - Player’s attempt to self-exclude from the casino has been overlooked.

Amount: €2,000

BetItAll Casino
Safety Index:High
Submitted: 12 Sep 2021 | Case closed : 09 Mar 2024
Case closed Our verdict

Unjustified complaint

REJECTED

Case summary

9 months ago

The player from Greece has requested a self-exclusion. Unfortunately, the enquiry was ignored.

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3 years ago
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I have a gambling addiction problem and although when I opened an account at that casino, after the losses I had, I asked to close my account FOREVER.

However, 4-5 days ago, I received an email from the casino that my account had been reopened and I had been credited with 25 euros.

After I lost this money, I started the deposits (I do not doubt that I made them) as a result of which I lost a lot of money for my own pocket.

I want you to tell me if it is legal for casinos to open an account against the will of the player, especially if he has such a problem as I do.

Plus I do not have anything to send, but you can be sure of the problem I have, if you contact KETHEA ... !!!


Please let me know why I will get sick from my grief ....


Thank you very much

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3 years ago

Dear Ioannis,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Before we’ll contact the casino and ask for their standpoint, could you please forward emails or screenshots showing that you have sent a request for the self-exclusion? My email address is petronela.k@casino.guru. Did you specify in that request for how long you wish your account to be suspended and the reason why?

I have checked the Responsible Gambling section on the website, and this is what I found

https://www.betitall.com/en/reading-center/responsible-gaming:


„Standby or cool-off periods / Self exclusion:

If you believe that playing games might affect your life in a negative way, we at Bet it All are able to help you. We provide you with the ability to exclude yourself from playing on our site for various periods of time. We offer 24-hour stand-by periods as well as 7 day, 30 day, 2 month restrictions and longer timeouts (only with email confirmation on security@betitall.com. When sending an request to security@betitall.com, please make sure that this message is directly addressed and not a forward or carbon copy (cc). There is a high possibility that these types of emails will go into Spam and therefore won't be viewed by the relevant department). You will not be able to access the games and/or services of Bet it All. Once you ask for a self-exclusion period, you have to close all tables at which you are playing and log out from your account. Once you have done that, the time out or self-exclusion period will begin. You will not be able to deposit or withdrawal and make inter-account transfers with your Bet it All account. Furthermore, you will not receive any marketing emails or newsletters from Bet it All after your cool off period has been initiated. It is important for Bet it All to receive information about your reasons as to why limit your account. The staff members of Bet it All have been trained in social responsibility and are trained to deal with compulsive gambling behaviour. They are always there to assist you with personal aid or guidance as to where you should go to find further help. If Bet it All recognises that gambling can cause serious financial harm to the Customer it reserves the right to close the players account in order to help overcome any addiction thereof."

 

 

Is this security@betitall.com the email address that you have sent your email to?


Do I understand correctly that you have an active registration with https://www.kethea.gr/en/?


I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Petronela

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3 years ago
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Additional comments from the player:


"Good evening


I'm on my way to the countryside.


I have not done anything print screen and I have asked the casino to send me the message I sent them and to share it with you.

You also asked them to send us the chat in which I request PERMANENT CLOSING of my account.


Thank you very much for your help


Yours sincerely,


I. B ******* "


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3 years ago

Thank you very much, Ioannis, for the forwarded emails. Do I understand correctly that you have communicated a possibility to self-exclude from the casino through the live chat only? Please understand that not every department can apply restrictions to a player's account.


Have you received the transcript from the live chat already?

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3 years ago
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No, I have not received any copy and in fact, my company has now closed the account (after the complaint message I sent them), as a result, I can not chat with them !!!!

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And something too! In the chat I had, they only asked me why I was closing the account and there was no mention from them that the permanent closing of the account is done by mail security@beritall ...... !!!

You asked them for your chat please and ask them if they have explained to me they have even sent me an email to mention something like that!

The account was closed directly (as now that I sent them the message and we had no other contact !!!)


Thanks again very much !!!

I. B.

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3 years ago

Thank you very much, Ioannis, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Jozef who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

 

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3 years ago
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Dear good continuation and thank you for everything. And if in the end I do not get my money back, I at least want people to know what happens to this casino (clearly with others).

Once I have decided to deal with the issue and announce the fact, I will look for it as much as possible and I will address every body I can.


Good luck,


I. B.


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Dear good continuation and thank you for everything. And if in the end I do not get my money back, I at least want people to know what happens to this casino (clearly with others).

Once I have decided to deal with the issue and announce the fact, I will look for it as much as possible and I will address every body I can.


Good luck,


I. B.


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3 years ago
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No answer from the casino yet ... I will have to wait. Can you tell me which body supervises its proper operation, so I can go there too please?


Thanks in advance,


I. B.

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3 years ago

Hello ioannis.


I absolutely appreciate that you shared your experiences with the Casino Guru team. The casino team is very cooperative during our complaint resolution, so I recommend you to stick with us for a moment and if the result is insufficient, I will personally guide you for the whole process of contacting the authority.


We will now try to get in touch with the casino.


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3 years ago
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Thank you very much for your always prompt reply and as I said, I will definitely wait ... Although a week has already passed and there has been no response from the casino.


Friendly


I. B.

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3 years ago

Hello Team, 


We kindly ask for an email where we can forward all the chat evidence to. 


Let us explain the situation in question.

As visible from the chat history, on September 3rd, 2021 the player contacted our support department through the live chat option asking to close his account. The player only specified that he had lost a lot of funds in our casino. The chat agent then replied with a standard message which states that the player’s account is blocked for a week and if the player wishes for a longer blocking period, he must contact the Security department via email security@betitall.com.

The Security department is based on the casino platform, and for the Support service we hire contracting companies, therefore, the Support service has limited functionality.

After this, no emails followed to the security department or the support department and the player’s account was automatically unblocked and the player received cashback for his previous deposits.

On September 13th, 2021, the player sent 2 more messages to the support department. One simply stating "Problem with gambling." and the second one stating that the player will be reporting his account unblocking to the relevant gaming authority, to which the support agent replied, after verifying, that the security department was not contacted and that the block was automatically lifted after 7 days, which is standard procedure.

The message stating that the player was gambling addicted was then forwarded to the security department by the agent and the player’s account was blocked.


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Also, if the casino has a very good reputation as you mention, in matters of security it is very serious and does not leave to .... Contracting companies such serious matters.

If from the chat I can not set the closing of my account, then forgive me but this is not called chat ....

What should I do?

To come in just to say good morning to them;

The last thing I will write is that in this casino I am not even identified, but there I do not see any restrictions on deposits ...

But if I asked for a withdrawal, all of a sudden I had to send all the identification documents.

Sorry dear gentlemen, but if you do not see any problem, then there is no further reason for me to communicate.

All I will ask you again is to answer me who is the competent supervisory body for this particular casino.


Thanks in advance,


I. B.


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3 years ago

We kindly ask casino.guru manager for an email where we can forward all the chat evidence to. 

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3 years ago
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Good evening and good week gentlemen.

I am sorry to see that there is no progress on my issue despite your efforts.

For this reason and for the umpteenth time, I will ask you to answer only one thing:

Who is the supervisory body for this particular casino, to convey my dissatisfaction with the rules of responsible betitall gambling.

As my addiction problem was transferred to the casino security department and the account was permanently closed, so my initial request to close an account should have been transferred!

So simple!

If you disagree, close the case now but PLEASE tell me who is the supervisory body for betitall casino!


I apologize for my strong reaction and I look forward to your reply as soon as possible!


Friendly,


I. B.


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3 years ago

Dear BetItAll Casino team.


Thank you very much for your cooperation. This is my email, jozef.k@casino.guru.

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3 years ago

Hello Team.

Proofs with explanations are sent to your mail.


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3 years ago
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Hello teams


I hope you will answer me in 2021 who is the supervisory body of the betitall team !!!!

😂😂😂

I do not need receipts with explanations as the "excellent" casino betitall does ..

You are making fun of me, it seems to me all together.

"Evidence with explanations🤬🤬🤬 !!!!!!"

the others write provocatively and you still evaluate them as a casino with a "very good reputation" ...

Why don't they explain it to me too?

Disgust that you accept but it does not matter ...

I will find an edge, maybe not from here but I will find an edge .... 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Dear site administrators:

As 3 weeks have passed and there has not been any development yet (to be honest I did not expect), I want you to answer me only one thing.

What is your difficulty in telling me what is the supervisory authority for betitall casino?

I believe that, even if I am wrong in the whole case, I am not asking for something irregular. I did not expect the return of the money from the casino so easily ...

Business is for profit and that makes sense!

However, I ask to speak to the person in charge of this matter, with the ultimate aim of seeing if the legislation in Curacao is such that it allows everyone to define the legal framework as they wish.

In summary, I want to see if there really is supervision or not ...

It is very simple what I ask and I DO NOT GET AN ANSWER! WHY?


Please do not ignore my message again.


Thank you very much,


I. Varsamos

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3 years ago

Dear Ioannis.


Please, be aware that the complaint resolution procedure may take some time, in your case, it was even quite short (3weeks), but the casino was very cooperative. Unfortunately, the case has reached not a good end for you. Since the casino team has provided us with valid evidence sustaining their claims, we are forced to reject your case. It is clear that your account was just closed (without specification) because you have mentioned addiction only 13th of September. Therefore, we consider their behavior as justified.


The supervisory authority is the casino's licensing authority - Curacao. If you want help with contacting them, do not hesitate to reach me. Although I am convinced that their opinion will be the same.


Best regards, Jozef

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