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24Slots Casino - Player demands reimbursement after self-exclusion request is ignored.
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Submitted:
19 Sep 2024
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Resolved : 11 Nov 2024
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Case summary
1 week ago
The player from Germany formally escalated a complaint regarding his account closure following a request for self-exclusion on July 22, 2024, which the casino had ignored. He demanded reimbursement for financial losses incurred due to the casino's negligence in handling his request, which he claimed operated without a valid license in Germany. The issue was resolved when the player accepted a settlement offer of 424 euros from the casino after months of delay. The complaint was marked as 'resolved' in the system upon confirmation of the payment.
The player from Germany formally escalated a complaint regarding his account closure following a request for self-exclusion on July 22, 2024, which the casino had ignored. He demanded reimbursement for financial losses incurred due to the casino's negligence in handling his request, which he claimed operated without a valid license in Germany. The issue was resolved when the player accepted a settlement offer of 424 euros from the casino after months of delay. The complaint was marked as 'resolved' in the system upon confirmation of the payment.
I would like to reiterate my request and draw your attention to an extremely serious incident that occurred in your casino. On July 22, 2024, I expressly requested you by email to block me immediately due to my gambling addiction. However, these emails were completely ignored by you, which represents a serious violation of player protection and your obligations as a gambling provider. Due to this failure to act, I have suffered massive financial losses that could have been avoided by your negligent behavior.
Despite my clear and repeated requests, you have failed to comply with my self-exclusion, which clearly underlines your irresponsibility and disregard for addiction prevention. It should also be mentioned that your casino operates without a valid license in Germany, which also violates applicable laws and regulations. Playing without a license valid in Germany not only violates the State Treaty on Gambling, but is also a clear case of illegal gambling operations.
I therefore request you again to immediately reimburse me for all losses caused by your negligence. If you do not comply with my request within the next 7 days, I will be forced to take appropriate legal action. In addition, I will report the incident to the relevant German authorities, such as the Joint Gambling Authority of the States (GGL), as well as to consumer protection organizations and file a complaint about this case.
It is in your interest to resolve this matter immediately, otherwise you will face legal consequences as well as serious repercussions on your reputation. I expect your immediate response and the fastest possible refund of the lost amount.
Best regards,
Mick S******
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
hiermit möchte ich meine Forderung erneut mit Nachdruck vorbringen und Sie auf einen äußerst schwerwiegenden Vorfall hinweisen, der sich in Ihrem Casino zugetragen hat. Am 22.07.2024 habe ich Sie ausdrücklich per E-Mail dazu aufgefordert, mich aufgrund meiner Spielsucht umgehend zu sperren. Diese E-Mails wurden von Ihrer Seite jedoch vollständig ignoriert, was einen gravierenden Verstoß gegen den Spielerschutz und Ihre Pflichten als Glücksspielanbieter darstellt. Aufgrund dieser unterlassenen Handlung sind mir massive finanzielle Verluste entstanden, die durch Ihr fahrlässiges Verhalten hätten vermieden werden können.
Trotz meiner eindeutigen und wiederholten Anfragen haben Sie es versäumt, meiner Selbstsperrung nachzukommen, was Ihre Verantwortungslosigkeit und Missachtung der Suchtprävention eindrucksvoll unterstreicht. Darüber hinaus ist zu erwähnen, dass Ihr Casino ohne gültige Lizenz in Deutschland operiert, was zusätzlich gegen geltende Gesetze und Vorschriften verstößt. Das Spielen ohne eine in Deutschland gültige Lizenz verstößt nicht nur gegen den Glücksspielstaatsvertrag, sondern stellt auch einen klaren Fall von illegalem Glücksspielbetrieb dar.
Ich fordere Sie daher erneut auf, mir die gesamten durch Ihre Fahrlässigkeit entstandenen Verluste unverzüglich zu erstatten. Sollten Sie meiner Aufforderung nicht innerhalb der nächsten 7 Tage nachkommen, werde ich gezwungen sein, entsprechende rechtliche Schritte einzuleiten. Darüber hinaus werde ich den Vorfall bei den zuständigen deutschen Behörden, wie der Gemeinsamen Glücksspielbehörde der Länder (GGL), sowie bei Verbraucherschutzorganisationen melden und diesen Fall zur Anzeige bringen.
Es liegt in Ihrem Interesse, diesen Sachverhalt umgehend zu klären, da Sie ansonsten sowohl mit rechtlichen Konsequenzen als auch mit schwerwiegenden Auswirkungen auf Ihren Ruf rechnen müssen. Ich erwarte Ihre sofortige Rückmeldung und die schnellstmögliche Rückerstattung des verlorenen Betrags.
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about the issues you’ve encountered with the casino.
To help us proceed, I would like to ask a few additional questions to clarify the situation:
We can see that you sent your self-exclusion request to the correct email address on July 22, 2024. Could you confirm whether you received any form of response from the casino regarding this request?
Besides email, did you attempt to contact the casino via any other channels (such as live chat, phone support, or social media) to follow up on your self-exclusion request? If so, please provide details on these attempts.
Have you previously initiated self-exclusion with this casino before this incident, or was this the first time you requested it?
You can also forward any relevant communication or documentation to petronela.k@casino.guru.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible.
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
Dear Mickstar,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about the issues you’ve encountered with the casino.
To help us proceed, I would like to ask a few additional questions to clarify the situation:
We can see that you sent your self-exclusion request to the correct email address on July 22, 2024. Could you confirm whether you received any form of response from the casino regarding this request?
Besides email, did you attempt to contact the casino via any other channels (such as live chat, phone support, or social media) to follow up on your self-exclusion request? If so, please provide details on these attempts.
Have you previously initiated self-exclusion with this casino before this incident, or was this the first time you requested it?
You can also forward any relevant communication or documentation to petronela.k@casino.guru.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible.
Thank you for your message. Unfortunately, the situation is extremely frustrating for me and I would like to point out that this is a very serious matter that needs to be resolved urgently.
I would like to answer your questions as follows:
- To date, I have not received any response from the casino to my self-exclusion request, although I submitted it on July 22, 2024.
- I also contacted the casino's live chat to follow up on the request. I didn't get any clear information there either. The employees either ignored my request or kept me waiting without offering any concrete solutions.
- This was my first self-exclusion request at this casino, so I am particularly disappointed with the lack of responsiveness.
It is unacceptable that such an important issue is ignored. Under current law, casinos are obliged to process self-exclusion requests promptly. I therefore urge you to pursue the matter vigorously and inform me immediately of what steps are taken to resolve this.
I have forwarded the relevant emails to the address you provided.
I expect a speedy resolution and will otherwise be forced to consider legal action.
Best regards,
Mickstar
Liebe Petronela,
vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht. Leider ist die Situation für mich äußerst frustrierend und ich möchte darauf hinweisen, dass es hier um ein sehr ernstes Anliegen geht, das dringend gelöst werden muss.
Zu Ihren Fragen möchte ich wie folgt antworten:
- Ich habe bis heute keinerlei Antwort vom Casino auf meinen Selbstausschlussantrag erhalten, obwohl ich diesen bereits am 22. Juli 2024 eingereicht habe.
- Zusätzlich habe ich den Live-Chat des Casinos kontaktiert, um den Antrag zu verfolgen. Auch dort bekam ich keine klare Auskunft. Die Mitarbeiter haben mein Anliegen entweder ignoriert oder mich hingehalten, ohne konkrete Lösungsvorschläge zu bieten.
- Dies war mein erster Antrag auf Selbstausschluss bei diesem Casino, daher bin ich besonders enttäuscht von der mangelnden Reaktionsbereitschaft.
Es ist inakzeptabel, dass ein so wichtiges Thema ignoriert wird. Nach geltendem Recht sind Casinos verpflichtet, Selbstausschlussanträge unverzüglich zu bearbeiten. Ich fordere Sie daher auf, die Angelegenheit mit Nachdruck zu verfolgen und mich umgehend darüber zu informieren, welche Schritte eingeleitet werden, um dies zu klären.
Ich habe Ihnen die relevanten E-Mails an die von Ihnen angegebene Adresse weitergeleitet.
Ich erwarte eine rasche Lösung und werde andernfalls gezwungen sein, rechtliche Schritte zu prüfen.
I refer to my previous emails and note that my player account has since been closed. However, it has taken far too long for you to comply with this request, despite my clear request on July 22, 2024 to block me immediately due to my gambling addiction.
The late blocking of my account has caused me significant financial losses that could have been avoided had I implemented my self-blocking in a timely manner. I therefore continue to insist on the full reimbursement of these losses caused by your negligent conduct.
I expect an immediate response and the corresponding refund. If this does not happen within the next 7 days, I will, as already threatened, report the matter to the relevant authorities and consumer protection organizations and take legal action.
Best regards,
Mick S******
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
ich nehme Bezug auf meine vorherigen E-Mails und stelle fest, dass mein Spielerkonto inzwischen geschlossen wurde. Es hat jedoch viel zu lange gedauert, bis Sie dieser Aufforderung nachgekommen sind, trotz meiner eindeutigen Bitte vom 22.07.2024, mich umgehend aufgrund meiner Spielsucht zu sperren.
Durch die verspätete Sperrung meines Kontos sind mir erhebliche finanzielle Verluste entstanden, die bei rechtzeitiger Umsetzung meiner Selbstsperre hätten vermieden werden können. Ich bestehe daher weiterhin auf die vollständige Rückerstattung dieser Verluste, die durch Ihr fahrlässiges Verhalten verursacht wurden.
Ich erwarte eine umgehende Rückmeldung und die entsprechende Erstattung. Sollte dies nicht innerhalb der nächsten 7 Tage geschehen, werde ich die Angelegenheit, wie bereits angedroht, den zuständigen Behörden und Verbraucherschutzorganisationen melden sowie rechtliche Schritte einleiten.
As already described, I cannot send a history of the deposit because my account has now been blocked??? The casino then has to take care of that.
and I don't have the email because the first request was made via live chat.
Do you want to clarify the problem? It's quite clear what's happening here and you seem to be taking the opposing side again. It's just ridiculous.
Guten Tag,
Wie schon beschrieben, kann ich keinen Verlauf der Einzahlung schicken, da mein Konto nun gesperrt wurde ??? Das muss das Casino dann übernehmen.
und die E-Mail habe ich nicht, da die erste Anfrage über den Live-Chat stattgefunden hat.
wollt ihr das Problem klären ? Es ist ganz klar was hier mal wieder passiert und ihr stellt euch gefühlt wieder auf die Gegenseite. Es ist einfach nur noch lächerlich.
I completely understand that you're feeling upset, but please know that my aim here is to gather as much evidence as possible before we proceed to contact the casino on your behalf. My only concern is that you haven't saved any relevant communication between July 22nd and September 19th, which would cover the period between your initial attempt to self-exclude and the actual account closure. I'm just trying to demonstrate that you took all necessary steps to inform the casino about your gambling problem.
It seems like you sent the first email back in July, but when the account remained open, instead of urging the casino to block it, you continued playing and only followed up with them again in September.
Thank you for your understanding.
Hi Mickstar,
I completely understand that you're feeling upset, but please know that my aim here is to gather as much evidence as possible before we proceed to contact the casino on your behalf. My only concern is that you haven't saved any relevant communication between July 22nd and September 19th, which would cover the period between your initial attempt to self-exclude and the actual account closure. I'm just trying to demonstrate that you took all necessary steps to inform the casino about your gambling problem.
It seems like you sent the first email back in July, but when the account remained open, instead of urging the casino to block it, you continued playing and only followed up with them again in September.
Thank you for your message, but I would like to stress again that a single request from me should have been enough to get the casino to act. In my email, I clearly stated that I am a gambling addict and the casino should have responded immediately. In addition, I contacted them several times via live chat, which is also documented. I ask you to carefully check the casino's documentation, as all relevant information is clearly visible there.
It is unacceptable that I have to point out the same problem over and over again. If I, as a gambling addict, openly and honestly explain my problem, the casino must act immediately and consistently to prevent further damage. That is their responsibility. It is only logical that someone in my situation would continue to gamble if no action is taken - in the hope of making up for losses or winning.
How many times should you ask a casino before it does its due diligence? Such a delay is not only irresponsible, it is harmful, and I believe the casino has clearly failed here.
I hope you understand my point of view and that I have done everything I can to make the casino aware of my problem. Now it is up to you to use this information accordingly.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht, aber ich möchte hiermit noch einmal betonen, dass eine einmalige Aufforderung meinerseits hätte ausreichen müssen, um das Casino zum Handeln zu bewegen. In meiner E-Mail habe ich unmissverständlich darauf hingewiesen, dass ich spielsüchtig bin, und das Casino hätte sofort reagieren müssen. Darüber hinaus habe ich mehrfach über den Live-Chat Kontakt aufgenommen, was ebenfalls dokumentiert ist. Ich bitte Sie, die Unterlagen des Casinos sorgfältig zu prüfen, da alle relevanten Informationen dort klar ersichtlich sind.
Es kann nicht sein, dass ich immer wieder auf dieselbe Problematik hinweisen muss. Wenn ich als Spielsüchtiger offen und ehrlich mein Problem darlege, muss das Casino unverzüglich und konsequent handeln, um weiteren Schaden zu verhindern. Das ist deren Verantwortung. Es ist doch nur logisch, dass jemand in meiner Situation weiterspielt, wenn keine Maßnahmen ergriffen werden – in der Hoffnung, Verluste auszugleichen oder Gewinne zu erzielen.
Wie oft soll man ein Casino auffordern, bevor es seiner Sorgfaltspflicht nachkommt? Eine solche Verzögerung ist nicht nur unverantwortlich, sondern schädlich, und ich bin der Meinung, dass das Casino hier ganz klar versagt hat.
Ich hoffe, Sie verstehen meinen Standpunkt und sehen ein, dass ich alles mir Mögliche unternommen habe, um das Casino auf mein Problem aufmerksam zu machen. Jetzt liegt es an Ihnen, diese Informationen entsprechend zu verwenden.
Thank you very much, Mickstar, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Jozef (jozef.k@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Thank you very much, Mickstar, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Jozef (jozef.k@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
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How can it be that I have been waiting for a response for months? You state that a response must be given within a maximum of ten days, or in exceptional cases within 20 days. Despite these deadlines, I am still waiting for a solution. I demand immediate clarification and an explanation as to why this process is taking so long.
Please give me an answer immediately!
Hier schreibt das Casino Folgendes:
"Die Kundenservice-Abteilung wird ihr Bestes tun, dem Kunden innerhalb von 48 Stunden nach Eingang der Anfrage oder Beschwerde eine Antwort oder Lösung bereitzustellen. In jedem Fall wird das Ergebnis der Beschwerde innerhalb von maximal zehn Tagen nach Eingang der Beschwerde mitgeteilt. In Ausnahmefällen, in denen wir der Meinung sind, dass eine angemessene Lösung der Beschwerde eine weitere Untersuchung erfordert, kann NewEra B.V. die Frist um weitere zehn Tage verlängern. In diesem Fall werden wir Sie innerhalb der ersten zehn Tage nach Eingang der Beschwerde über die Verzögerung informieren. Wir werden Sie in diesem Fall auch über den Prozess informieren und gegebenenfalls notwendige Anfragen stellen, die als erforderlich erachtet werden."
Wie kann es sein, dass ich seit Monaten auf eine Antwort warte? Sie geben an, dass eine Rückmeldung innerhalb von maximal zehn Tagen oder im Ausnahmefall in 20 Tagen erfolgen muss. Trotz dieser Fristen warte ich noch immer auf eine Lösung. Ich fordere eine sofortige Klärung und eine Erklärung, warum dieser Prozess so lange dauert.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
The casino made me an offer of 424 euros, and since the whole thing has been dragging on for months, I have accepted this offer. However, I ask that this case not be closed yet, as the payment is still outstanding.
the problem occurred due to a technical error, which I find questionable.
Guten Tag,
das Casino hat mir ein Angebot von 424 Euro angeboten, da sich sas ganze jetzt schon Monate in die Länge zieht, habe ich dieses Angebot angenommen. Ich bitte jedoch diesen Fall noch nicht zu schließen, da die Zahlung noch aussteht.
das Problem sei aufgrund eines technischen Fehler ausgetreten, was ich jedoch fraglich finde.
We're glad to hear that your issue has been resolved. We'll go ahead and mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. We appreciate your cooperation and confirmation. If you ever encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please feel free to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We're here to help.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot. An honest review, along with any suggestions for improvement, would be invaluable. Your feedback could help others who may be considering contacting us for assistance with online casino-related issues.
Thank you in advance for your time.
Best regards, Jozef
Dear Mickstar,
We're glad to hear that your issue has been resolved. We'll go ahead and mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. We appreciate your cooperation and confirmation. If you ever encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please feel free to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We're here to help.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot. An honest review, along with any suggestions for improvement, would be invaluable. Your feedback could help others who may be considering contacting us for assistance with online casino-related issues.
Thank you in advance for your time.
Best regards, Jozef
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