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Simsinos Casino - Player's winnings confiscated due to bonus violation.

Black points: 57

Amount: €820

Simsinos Casino
Safety Index:Below average
Submitted: 05 Apr 2024 | Unresolved : 16 May 2024
Unresolved Our verdict

No reaction policy, good regulator

UNRESOLVED

Case summary

5 months ago

The player from Germany had used a bonus at Simsino and claimed to have played with real money first, leaving the bonus untouched. However, after attempting to withdraw their winnings, the casino had claimed they broke the rules by playing prohibited games with bonus funds. The player disputed this, as they hadn't used the bonus, which was confirmed when the unused bonus was deducted from their withdrawal. Despite our attempts to communicate with the casino, we received no response. We marked the complaint as 'unresolved' due to the lack of cooperation from the casino. We had advised the player to contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission for further assistance.

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7 months ago
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Hello,


I used a 100% bonus at Simsino with a 30€ deposit. In my account, the following was shown: 30€ real money, 30€ bonus money, a total of 60€. There was a progress bar for the turnover of the bonus. After a few spins (around 10€ turnover), I checked the progress bar of the bonus and found out that the progress bar was still at 0%. Therefore, I realized that I was playing with my real money first. To be absolutely sure, I asked again in the chat. I was assured that I was playing with real money. I played my money down to 37.47€, so I was still using my real money. After that, I had several wins, with real money. The progress bar of the bonus money was still at 0%.


When my balance was at 913.8€, I made a withdrawal of 850€.

Then, my account had 33.80€ left. So, the bonus amount of 30€ was canceled from my withdrawal.

Calculation:

913.8€ - 850€ - 30€ Bonus = 33.80€


I gambled away the remaining amount of 33.8€ at the casino.


My withdrawal was then rejected because I apparently played prohibited games ("Reactoonz" and "The Dog House") with the bonus money. But I never played with the bonus money. This is also clear from the fact that the entire bonus of 30€ was deducted from my withdrawal. Thus, it can't be the case that I played with the bonus money.

The amount of 30€, which I deposited, was credited back to my account. This resulted in a loss of 850€ - 30€ = 820€


I informed Simsino's support team about everything via email and have been waiting in vain for a response ever since.


Attached are the following screenshots:

  • Attachment1.png = Minimum account balance of 37.47€
  • Attachment2.png = Balance before and after withdrawal
  • Attachment3.pdf = Email conversation


Please examine the case. I am grateful for any help you can offer.

Thank you in advance.

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7 months ago

Dear lowlanney,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. We think that restricted games for bonus play should be blocked, and this rule enforced at the software level, i.e., that the casino's software or website shouldn't let players place bets on the games that are not allowed to be played while completing the bonus wagering. That would be an ideal scenario. Another acceptable practice would be to at least alert the players when they access a restricted game that this game is not allowed to be played while they have an active bonus. 

  • Could you please advise if you have been warned by the software when accessing any of the restricted games and if it was your first redeemed bonus in this casino?
  • If you wish to forward any relevant communication or supporting evidence you can do so at petronela.k@casino.guru

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve your problem as soon as possible. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Petronela


Please be aware: At Casino.Guru, we never ask for your casino account password. While we may request information, we never seek access to your account. Please refrain from sharing your password with any third party. We primarily communicate through official threads, occasionally via email for requested supporting evidence or relevant communication.


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7 months ago
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Hello Petronella,


thanks for the answer. It would be much better if you just get a message about blocked games 🙁


  • I was not warned by the software when I opened the restricted games
  • It was not my first redeemed bonus on Simsino


Best regards

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7 months ago

Thank you very much, lowlanney, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.k@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.  


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7 months ago
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Hello,


Thanks.

What's more, I'm not being given my cashback. Every Friday at Simsino there's cashback. I wasn't credited with any cashback because the casino said I had won. However, my winnings were cancelled (€820, hence this complaint). After asking several times in the chat, the cashback still hasn't been credited to me. The reason: I had won and my winnings are higher than my deposits. But I didn't have a single withdrawal during the week, only deposits.


Best regards


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7 months ago

Hello lowlanney,

I'm Michal and I have taken over your complaint. I have reviewed your case and as my colleague Petronela mentioned we don't think that voiding the winnings just because the player has played a game that was not automatically disabled by the system when playing with a bonus is a fair practice. the casino has indeed a list of restricted games mentioned in its Bonus terms, however to my understanding it is mentioned when playing with bonus funds, not real money. I will contact the casino to shed more light on this.

We would like to invite Simsino Casino to join the conversation.


Dear Simsino Casino,

I understand that the bonus terms and conditions outline a list of restricted games. However, the player utilized their real money funds, not bonus funds, to play the slots, as indicated in the rule:

2.7.6. We reserve the right to update this list and forfeit any winnings if bonus funds are wagered on these games.

Could you please provide further clarification on why your system permitted the player to access games that should have been restricted from bonus play? Additionally, I'm seeking an explanation for the forfeiture of the player's balance, considering bonus funds were not utilized at the time.

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7 months ago
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Thanks.

I don't think Simsino answers. The support is not cooperative. Questions are ignored or there is a standard answer that doesn't even fit the actual question. Thanks for the effort though. We'll see if the casino responds.


I will publish my complaint on other platforms if Simsino does not respond.


Best regards

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6 months ago

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

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6 months ago

Dear lowlanney,

I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly but had no success. I’m afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from its side. I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system.

I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints might help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email. In the meantime, I recommend you contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commission via complaints@gamingcommission.ca and submit a complaint to them. The Gaming Authority has more options and tools to help players. Please let me know if you need help with submitting the complaint or how they responded if you can do it on your own (michal.k@casino.guru). I am sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion.


Best regards,

Michal

Casino Guru

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