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Royspins Casino - Player requests refund after account complications.

Amount: €5,998

Royspins Casino
Safety Index:High
Submitted: 22 Nov 2024 | Case closed : 05 Dec 2024
Case closed Our verdict

Insufficient evidence from player

REJECTED

Case summary

3 weeks ago

The player from Poland faced issues with his recent deposits after initially setting a self-exclusion limit. Despite having requested to unblock after a few days, he suffered significant losses without adequate support from the casino. He then sought a refund of his deposits, feeling that the process violated responsible gaming protocols. The Complaints Team concluded that there was insufficient evidence to support the claim that the casino failed to uphold its responsible gambling obligations, resulting in the closure of the complaint.

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1 month ago

Dear Team,

I will explain here the whole matter.

The day 16th of November I registered myself in the mentioned Platform and after verified through the system my docs in 5 minutes I started to deposit. I deposited in several transactions of 750€ for a relevant amount, but I lost. I contacted the chat in order to have information whether there was possibility to set a limit as I felt not to be in control of the emotions and I set a limit of 7 days which should have expired the day 30th of November. So far so good.


The day 20th of November I contacted the chat live because I wanted to play again but it was told me that it was impossible to remove the block or anticipate it for the safety of the players and to contact directly the Security Department.

I contacted them and after very few hours, after said I wanted to set 3 days instead of 7 days of limit, they easily unblocked me being aware (considering the amount deposited before in a very short time frame that there was maybe some danger for the player). The day 20th it was then possible to me to deposit again in 6 transactions for a total of 5,998.00€ in less than a hour and they went lost. I then asked to permanently close the account.

i contacted the department yesterday because I request to have the refund of the 5,998.00€ deposited (please notice, not the deposits of Saturday 16th) because I should not have been blocked as according to terms and conditions, if you are blocked you cannot be unblocked even requesting it to be compliant with the responsible gaming safety for the player. They disappeared and never replied to my email and of course, the chat live, that days ago was saying they could not unblock me, now says that they don’t have informations and to contact the Sec Department.

It is the first time I see possible to unblock before someone who auto blocked himself for his safety.

That is not very legal and it does not shows a reputable and reliable safety for the players in terms of a very delicate problems.


you can request them information as I have no additional email as I deleted them being very nervous for that.


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1 month ago

Dear ricmastrangelo,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I'm truly sorry to hear about the issue you’ve encountered. To better understand your situation and assist you effectively, I’d like to ask a few questions for clarification.

  • Could you please specify what type of limit you set on your account and how you set it?
  • Am I correct in understanding that you don’t have any evidence of requesting responsible gaming limits in this casino?

Please note that without evidence that you informed the casino about your gambling addiction or requested self-exclusion, we will not be able to proceed with the investigation. Our complaint resolution process follows specific steps that players need to adhere to, and one of the key steps is gathering as much evidence as possible to support your claim when we approach the casino on your behalf.

You can learn more about our complaint resolution procedure here.

I hope you can provide us with the necessary details and documentation so we can move forward. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Best regards,

Veronika

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1 month ago
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On Saturday 16th November, after having deposited several transactions of €750 for a significant amount and having lost, I excluded myself from the "limits" section for 7 days (so I should have remained blocked until 23rd November).

on Wednesday 20 November I wrote in the live chat without being able to log in because I was blocked and asked to continue playing and they told me that, for my safety, this was not possible BUT THAT I COULD CONTACT THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT TO ASK FOR AN EXCEPTION. So, after sending an email, I was unblocked at 16:36 on Wednesday and deposited 6 transactions for a total of €5,998 which were lost. If the block had not been removed before the natural expiration I would not have been able to deposit and play.

At the moment I have proof of payments made and furthermore I do not know how to demonstrate that I was excluded since I did not receive any email confirming this exclusion.

but i have the transactions made on november 20th in a short time and other documents that i can't upload here. can you send me an email to send everything?

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1 month ago

The Security Department of course disappeared and it is 2 days that they simply ignore my emails.

Today I asked the chatlive to provide me the transcript of the chat with them of the 16th of November and to tell me when my account was created and when I requested the exclusion for 7 days and they say that "they don’t have these infirnation". That’s really sad because the responsible gambling it should treat as a serious matter and not a way to abuse of people with some difficulties!

they unblocked 4 days before the expiry and they simply said "play responsibly". Sorry but In a casino should not be possible to unblock an auto exclusion before it’s natural end. Otherwise let’s be honest that the responsible gaming is just a word to say.

I expect you at least to investigate with them because they don’t want to provide me with the proof that my account was set to be blocked for 7 days by me and unblocked anyways just because I asked 4 days in advance.

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1 month ago
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Hello. Any news?

The casino is not responding to my email sent last week.

they disappeared

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1 month ago
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At the time I set the 7 day play limit (this was on November 16th in the early afternoon) my account should not and could not be unlocked in any way before 7 days.

The casino, however, exploiting my vulnerability (if they set a limit of 7 days it is precisely to protect themselves) reopened the account after 4 days and this caused me to lose €5,998 in deposits which, according to the rules, good faith and responsible gaming, should never have happened given that the account should have been automatically unlocked on November 23 and not on the 20, after my request by email.

This is really worrying because it is just a way for the casino to appear compliant with responsible gaming but, in reality, they exploit the weaknesses and psychology of players in a sneaky and illegal way.

I am requesting a refund.

Furthermore, I would like to point out, as already stated, that I rightly lost the deposits made on November 16th and I am not claiming them because the casino was not yet aware of the problem and the fact that I wanted to exclude myself. However, those of the 20th, yes, because on the 16th, after having compulsively and rapidly lost a large sum after several withdrawals, I excluded myself.

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4 weeks ago

Could you please confirm that this is the limit you requested to be set in your account?

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Please forward me the email you sent to security@royspins.com when you wanted your account to be unlocked before the 7-day limit expires along with the casino's reply.

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4 weeks ago
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Good morning!


yes, that is exactly the screen I am referring to. I had set a 7 day limit on Saturday, November 16th in the afternoon.

Unfortunately, and I feel really frustrated and stupid, I deleted the conversations with the casino after I lost everything because I didn't want to read anything that would remind me of the money I lost. I tried to recover the deleted emails from the trash but Gmail said they were deleted from my servers. I feel very guilty because only later did I realize what was happening.

Look, I have a problem with gambling and so in that moment of extreme fragility, when I lost everything, I felt really bad and the first thing I did was ask in live chat for a permanent block and delete everything that could remind me of the experience.

I later asked the casino and live chat to resend me a copy of that request but they disappeared.

I speak in good faith, and in addition to the financial damage I now also have to deal with the frustration of having deleted that email that could have been my lifeline.

Please ask the casino for that email because they have everything and maybe they will send it to you.

When I realized I could contact casino guru I started to keep all the emails. If you give me your email I can send you the screenshots of the subsequent requests sent by email to the casino where I asked the reasons why they had unblocked me before along with all the screenshots of the payments.

it's true, i don't have that email but i'm giving you precise details to investigate.

I will tell you the exact details again so you can verify them, I hope.


Saturday, November 16: I make more than 8 deposits of €750 in a short time as I lose. On the afternoon of November 16, after 2 pm, I activate the 7-day block.


On Tuesday 19th November I wrote to the chat in the afternoon asking to unblock me and they told me that to protect me they couldn't do it because it was an automatic limit that would have been unblocked and that I would have had to write to . I write him an email on the evening of November 19th.


Wednesday, November 20th.

I received this reply email at 07.36 in the morning telling me that after 8 hours they would have unblocked me.


at 3.36pm, exactly 8 hours later, I contacted the live chat to ask why they hadn't unblocked me yet and they told me that the account had been unblocked at that moment.

Right after 4pm I make a first deposit of €750.

From 7.30pm to 9pm I make more deposits for a final total of €5,998 and I lose everything.


I am giving you exact times of conversations. Please get that email from the casino, I have all the payments made with the dates I am referring to.

I'm telling the truth and I'm really destroyed because I shouldn't have played that €5,998 and they didn't protect me.

In the past, as you can see, I have always produced valid and truthful complaints.

I'm doing it this time too.


if you send me an email I will send you all the screenshots of the payments and conversations with the live chat and the email in which I ask the casino to explain to me why they had unblocked me in the previous email, and to none of these did they give me any more answers.


I trust in your help, please ask the casino to confirm what I'm saying with the times. They have that email from 07.36 am on November 20th where they unblocked me

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4 weeks ago
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It's true! People with this problem are seen in a negative light but it's not fair.

I lost over 15,000 in total at that casino. And yes, I have a gambling problem but I am also rational.

While I can't ask for the first deposits back because the casino didn't know about my problem and I hadn't put any blocks yet, the last €5,998 is different.

The casino unblocked me earlier even though I was aware of the 7 day limit, only because I had asked to unblock myself earlier and that I wanted to put a 3 day block instead of 7.

and this is bad faith because they unblocked me saying, we'll unblock you but try to think about the way you play and reflect, give yourself limits or breaks if you think that the game is a problem.

It's absurd, they unblocked me knowing about my problem.


Please, please investigate and ask him for confirmation. I'm telling the truth and the fact that he has a gambling problem doesn't mean that we should take advantage of it because we are vulnerable people but still human beings who should be protected and not made fun of on our fragilities

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Luckily I found also this screenshot I took on 16 of November after I blocked myself. This screenshot it was made at 17.51 of 16th of Novemberafter I blocked myself

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these are the payments, made on November 20, and collected by them on November 21 that I am referring to.

I must have been blocked because I was blocked on November 16th

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I have tried to provide you with everything I have.

I hope you can help me because it is not right to be made fun of in this way. This does not respect the rules of responsible gaming.

I know you can ask for that email and they can confirm it if you put them in this chat.

I only ask for justice

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Despite the fact I told them the security is disappeared since a week, they continue to ignore my legit RFI. That’s disgusting

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I am noticing, in other users reviews that there have been issues regarding accounts not being blocked after request.

In my case the account was blocked for 7 days but reopened very easily after 4 days.

Please help me get my €5,998.00 back

This is really unfair. The account was blocked and should not have been reopened just because I asked. If someone has a problem, that's what the limit is for. Right?

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That’s gross.

They admitted my account was blocked but it was possible to unblock.

If I blocked it after lost 9k in deposits it was because ad addiction and in a first moment they said it could not be unblocked and now they say that it was possible. That’s very unfair and illegal.

if I put a limit of 7 days, YOU CANT UNBLOCK ME BEFORE.

please help me, this 5,998.00€ should be refunded

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I would like to highlight that my concern is because, according to terms and conditions but, also to the nature of the block, a block set by the User should not be have any modification before the natural expiration even if the user requests.

because let’s not forget that the block it is created to help players to control themselves so if a User set a limit it means that he is somehow preventing a problem.

if you unblock it it means you want to take advantage of that.


And for this reason I did not invented and requested all the deposits but only the deposits happened after I set my block because the account should not have been unblocked before the 7 days set

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3 weeks ago

I have tried to communicate with them with no reply anymore.

I simply said that, given the fact that there was the logo of Casino Guru on the website and that responsible gaming options were available I felt safe and guaranteed.

if I see an option to select 1-3-7 days and I select 7 it means that I feel the need to block myself (and we both and they know that this measure is available to avoid problems for people who have some issue or think they may have). Otherwise the possibility of self exclusion would not have any reason of existing given the fact that the account is personal so the only reason to self exclude ourselves for a player is because needs a block as he cannot stop.

that said, if I set a limit, you Casino, understand that something is wrong, even more after you see how much I deposited that day.

and then, I contact you during my exclusion asking to unblock me and you, that should keep blocked the account for other 3 days, simply unblock. Is like giving the keys of a car to someone drunk just because the person said "I didn’t drink".


i seriously hope to fix this because I’m thinking to contact also third party arbitrary because as I said, I’m not being acting unfairly. I accepted the deposits lost during the first day I registered because no any block was available but I request the refund of the deposits of the 20th because theoretically those deposits and games should not be considered legally valid as simply a self exclusion has been respected by the casino. And once again, in many casino it was never possible to reopen before an account self excluded.


i kindly ask you to help me because I’m sure you know that this is a very serious issue.

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3 weeks ago

Thank you for your replies and for providing the additional screenshots. Unfortunately, we have reached an impasse in your case.

The limit you set on your account did not explicitly indicate that you wished to block your account due to gambling addiction. Cooling-off measures are designed to provide players with a temporary pause from gambling and do not inherently signify an issue with addiction.

Please understand that as mediators, we require clear evidence that you explicitly mentioned gambling addiction when requesting the limit or account closure. This evidence is crucial to prove that the casino failed to uphold its responsible gambling obligations. Without communication from both you and the casino's Security department, it is unclear whether the casino assessed your well-being or if you disclosed gambling problems when requesting your account's reopening after only three days.

Since you have not provided sufficient evidence to support your claims, I must close this complaint.

We regret that we could not assist you further in this matter. If you encounter any issues with this or another casino in the future, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you for your understanding.

Best regards,

Veronika

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