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Rolling Slots Casino - Player’s withdrawal has been cancelled.

Amount: €600

Rolling Slots Casino
Safety Index:High
Submitted: 24 Aug 2022 | Case closed : 20 Sep 2022
Case closed Our verdict

Unjustified complaint

REJECTED

Case summary

1 year ago

The player from Germany had his withdrawal withheld due to a third party deposit. After a closer examination, we ended up rejecting this complaint as unjustified.

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1 year ago
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Hello, I met on 08/15/2022

Registered in the casino rolingslots I made a deposit from my paysa account that I use under my sister's details she has no access to the account she gave me permission and it was not a problem in any online casino until as long as I had proof Everything was fine the online site accepted the deposit after I wanted to pay out the money it said make a deposit with the method you want to pay out I then created an online banking system and sent all the documents and data they requested I then had I first got an email to verify myself then I sent all the documents and still the same emails came with the documents that were missing although I had sent them several times my emails were ignored in the live chat I was not helped any further I waited several hours every day until I received an email that took about 1 week to wait I have all my documents g It ends until you ask for a screenshot of my paysafecard account, I also sent photos of the paysafecard with proof, which I can also send to you if necessary. I sent screenshots of the acc and often explained why I deposit with the acc and it was never a problem was as long as there was proof then they asked for documents from my sister and I thought they needed them for proof after I uploaded the documents ID card selfie etc. the answer came after 3 hours that my account was blocked and my money confiscated and that only after all the documents from me and all the deposits it said I would have violated 2 rules once 3.5 and 8.4 when I wrote several emails with reasons and everything possible I was ignored as I had noticed a few times before so you didn't go to mine reason and sent me an email again today that my account is blocked and where I wrote there s it can't be that I should have violated rule 3.5 because nobody had access to the account and I neither gave it away as it said there or sold it, then the email said I would only have violated rule 8.4, which tells me that that they were just looking for a reason not to put up with the money they didn't tell me from the start that I had to deposit with the account I want to use to withdraw they had no problem with the deposit but the site refuses to pay out they have 2 Deposit all my documents let's say it's all acceptable all the waiting the repeated emails all ok but the site asks for documents from my sister and I send them as proof of the account which has never been a problem at other casinos they only wanted a screenshot because I no longer have the email from my paysafecard account and have reached my limit, that was the only deposit method I kept using because the other casinos always agreed as long as you send a proof of the paysafecard i sent not only that but all other proofs from the paysafe account to the ID and selfie they wrote me today that i accepted to send my documents which yes probably true as i accepted the guidelines etc but i didn't accept that the site was allowed to receive documents from my sister the site didn't do a good job in my opinion be it the english chat although i had asked several times for a german support be it the unread messages the late replies the multiple document requests the deposit I made and the point that they accepted the deposit well but when paying out despite a lot of evidence that the acc is from me with my sister's permission which she could also confirm though the online casino only saw that I had won €600 and probably don't want to pay out the money that they would block my account I understand but all of them just proves to me that they wanted all my documents from my sister and my whole online banking iban etc didn't want to pay out the money I wrote then a lot of emails i ask for your help and i hope i get my money back i hope you can help me i don't find it acceptable from the side even if it would be a problem it wasn't at other casinos and as long as the acc me heard and it confirms that it is mine it shouldn't be a problem because they received the deposit warmly and asked for another deposit I would email them a screenshot of the site and the picture of the paysafecard if necessary thank you ahead and hope that you can help me I'm really desperate.

Kind regards

Armin S*****

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1 year ago

Dear arminsahebi55,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. I have checked the terms and conditions, and this is what I found (here):


„Deposit Rules

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8.4

An account owner can:

- deposit funds to his RollingSlots account by using only his personal credit card or personal account opened with Financial institutions or its licensees;

- it is forbidden to provide access to the account to third parties, including for making deposits or withdrawing funds. An account owner agrees that his account is for his own use only;

- an account owner is not allowed to transfer funds from your account to other players or vice versa;

- an account owner is not allowed to use third-parties payments to deposit funds into his account;

- an account owner is solely responsible for compliance with the above obligations."


Furthermore, please check our Fair Gambling Codex for Players:

"Payments

For deposits and withdrawals, you should only use bank accounts and credit cards held in your own name. If you don't do this, you might get into trouble when trying to make a withdrawal. This rule is mostly in place to prevent credit card misuse and also because of international anti-money-laundering regulations."

 

If I understood correctly, you deposited funds into your account using your sister's payment method, s that correct? Please understand that this rule has been breached. Some exceptions might be allowed by casinos when depositing or withdrawing funds using a joint card or this possibility is communicated beforehand.

If you’re not able to prove that you are a legitimate owner of the payment method and you haven’t received approval from the casino allowing you to use a third-party payment method, I’m afraid there’s not much we can do for you.

Thank you very much in advance for your reply and understanding.

Best regards,

Petronela 

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Hello, thanks for the quick reply I only paid with the acc because I no longer had access to my old one because I no longer had access to the email and the acc only belongs to me with my sister's data and yes I can prove that the acc belongs to me and my sister could write an email to the casino if need be the problem is I proved to the casino that the acc is from me and justified but they didn't write that I broke the rule and I thought to myself also nothing because nobody else really had a problem as I said if there is proof and I sent several then they only asked for documents from my sister the next day and after I sent them I was blocked and the amount confiscated I don't think so acceptable as they required 2 deposits from me and all documents from me and my sister I have emailed the casino several times and will j Just ignored now and I find it very strange as other casinos only asked for a photo of the paysafecard but the site wanted documents from my sister and I sent them as I figured they would ask for the documents after I justified the paysafe in an email and when I send it my account is verified and that's what I don't think is fair why my sister asked me for documents even if I allegedly violated the rule after I gave good reasons and like never before in other casinos that the account is in my possession and besides ignoring the whole wait I don't feel treated fairly by the casino I had to set up an online banking system so many things were uploaded and the casino couldn't tell my sister before they asked for everything except the documents that I had to prove that the paysafecard acc belongs to me because I have a lot of proof that I can also send you w If necessary because the acc belongs to me and my sister can confirm that, as I said, it really wasn’t a problem at any online casino. Most of the time, a photo of the card was enough and everything was fine, but the site still asked for documents and then blocked me because you feel like that already pulled something over the table.

Kind regards

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1 year ago

Could you please advise whose name is displayed on the payment method that has been used to deposit funds into your casino account?

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1 year ago
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Hello, I have no access to my account because the casino blocked me. I made the first deposit with the paysafecard from my sister nijuscha s*****. After a long wait, the casino wanted a deposit from my online banking Armin S**. *** I made the last deposit from my online banking, the casino, as I wrote in the previous text, then asked for a lot of documents from me, the paysafecard acc only belongs to me with the data of my sister, she has no access to the account has no access to the casino i can prove everything i don't think it's fair from the casino that they asked for so many documents from my sister as evidence and after i had proved everything the confiscation followed which i don't think is fair and fair as other casinos only have a photo wanted from the paysafecard and it always worked and was never a problem please help me to get my money back I have 40€ a Assigned to their account on their orders and all documents I find it unacceptable to ask for so many documents and money and then block me without at least paying me the money I could send you a lot of proof and I recommend that to the casino only they ignore me easy

Yours sincerely, Armin S*****

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1 year ago

I'm truly sorry but I do not understand the following:


"the paysafecard acc only belongs to me with my sister’s data, she has no access to the account"


Could you please forward any supporting evidence and Paysafe account details to petronela.k@casino.guru?

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1 year ago
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The paysafe acc is in my possession no one has access to the acc except me only the data in the acc are those of my sister with her permission so normally my sister's account is only in my possession because as I said I had reached my limit to my own account and no longer had access, I used it often and it always worked with the proof that I had bought the paysafecard.

I will email you the information you need.

Kind regards

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1 year ago

Thank you very much, arminsahebi55, for the clarification. Could you please advise if the following facts are correct?

  • the only owner of the Paysafe account is your sister
  • you haven't informed the casino beforehand about the possibility of depositing funds into your account with a third-party payment method
  • all your winnings were accumulated from the Paysafe card deposit


Please understand if all the abovementioned facts are correct we won't be able to help you. One of the basic rules when playing online is to use only payment methods that are registered in your name. Exceptions might be granted if a joint account has been used, unfortunately, that's not the case.

Please let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked, but I’m afraid I will be forced to reject your complaint as unjustified. I wish I could be of more help. Thank you in advance for your reply and understanding.

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I am the owner of the paysafecard account I own the acc and only the data is from my sister but I own it and she gave me permission and no access myself the casino accepted the money directly and I didn't think anything of it there As I said, it was never a problem in many other casinos, what I don't understand is the first deposit they accepted €20 with the paysafecard, they then asked for a deposit from my online banking after I created this extra, they asked for a deposit after I deposited €20 at the time the casino knew yes if it is not acceptable that the paysafecard data differs from my online banking and then the casino said I should verify myself I sent all my data another mistake from the casino they asked for all my data even though they had seen it that the data differs and that's why I thought it works because in every other casino the Deposit rejected or at the latest when I made the 2nd deposit I got an email or message that my account was blocked but what this casino did was the following they ignored my emails only in the chat I didn’t get any help either I then wrote an extra email where everything I could also send you an email if necessary why and why I use my sister's paysafe account. This was followed by an email requesting documents, selfies and much more from my sister to be sent to verify me after I had received all the documents plus several proofs I also sent pictures of the paysafecard, which was actually always enough in other casinos. Without documents, they confiscated my €600

So I think this is fraud after I put so much documents into the game in the email all the waiting all the deposits just get blocked I can understand if the casino says it's not acceptable but why do you take the money and then ask for more money and all documents after you can already see that I have evidence and reasons why I use the acc, my sister still demands documents from me. I already see this as data fraud, I ask you to help me, otherwise I see no other option but to contact my lawyer and with me sue him the casino.

Kind regards

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1 year ago

I'm sorry but what suggests that you are the account owner if it is registered with your sister's personal details? Is your name displayed on the card, or anywhere inside the contract?

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Not in the paysafecard account, but my sister could send an email or other proof that the acc belongs to her, but she gives me permission to use the acc and usually a proof photo of the paysafecard, which I had also sent, I had all that was enough already sent but it is currently more about the point that this casino had accepted the deposit required all my documents after which I sent several proofs and documents they required after I had written the email that the paysafecard acc belongs to me with all the data my sister and she wanted to prove it, the casino wanted me to prove it and requested documents from my sister in an email and I think this is close to data fraud because if the casino doesn't allow it and all of this allegedly violates the rules, please explain to me someone why the casino kept asking for deposits and all documents and not my account s Already with the first deposit or let's say at the latest after I had written the email and explained everything why they asked for documents from my sister in the email as confirmation and selfies I don't find that acceptable because I really don't think I against them rule because I have clearly justified everything with a lot more evidence than needed I'm just waiting if you can help me if not I would have to get my lawyer involved because I have the feeling you don't quite understand that this casino asked for my data and money and stole several days of my time with their bad chat I'm slowly getting tired of explaining everything all the time if they don't see that this behavior is not acceptable from the casino and I just want my money back I hope you can help me I really have my doubts it would be nice if you inform the casino and ask why they are ignoring my emails en my documents demanded the deposit and the second one from my bank also they would have to notice it at the latest and block it with the 2nd deposit, but that was ok because they pocketed my money and why they violated the rule if that was the case Demanded documents from my sister.

Kind regards

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To sum it all up, your sister is the only owner of the Paysafe account and she gave you permission to use it, is that correct? If yes, I'm afraid we won't be able to help you. Please understand that the casino has requested all the information to check if you are a legitimate owner of the payment method. Once they concluded you are not, winnings have been confiscated.

Please let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked, but I’m afraid I will be forced to reject your complaint as unjustified. 

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As I said, I am the owner of the account, my sister has allowed me to use her data, she has no access to this paysafecard acc, but I have the feeling that you don't want to or can't help me any further. I've been with you for about 3 weeks now in contact and you keep asking me the same questions without contacting the casino that they should just transfer my money.


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I wish I could be of more help. You keep insisting that you are the owner of the payment method since you created it. However, you have used your sister's personal information and by doing that you made it impossible to verify this payment method for any online casino in the future.


I’m sorry we couldn’t help you to resolve this case, but please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with any other casino in the future. For the abovementioned reasons, I will now reject this complaint. Thank you for your understanding. 

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