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Leon Casino - Player complains about ignored self-exclusion request.
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Submitted:
07 Apr 2024
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Case summary
3 days ago
The player from Portugal, who self-identifies as a gambling addict, asked Twin Casino and Leon Casino to block his account several times, but his requests were ignored. Despite being excluded by the Portuguese gaming regulator SRIJ, the player was able to continue playing and lost a total of over 20,000€.
The player from Portugal, who self-identifies as a gambling addict, asked Twin Casino and Leon Casino to block his account several times, but his requests were ignored. Despite being excluded by the Portuguese gaming regulator SRIJ, the player was able to continue playing and lost a total of over 20,000€.
Twin Casino/Leon Casino failed to secure and protect a human life. The casino as no respect of any kind for a human being. I am self excluded addicted player, I have begged to support to block and exclude my account and they ignored my request, both Twin Casino and Leon still maintain my account open. I have lost all my money and life savings to these casino. I am excluded by the SRIJ the Portuguese game regulator.. and still after I informed twin that I had this problems they just let me spend all my money, not even with limits.. they failed with what they say on there website on responsible game.. they say if a player even mentions that he is addicted the account is suspended, limited or blocked. I just want my money back, please help me recovering the money I lost after I informed everyone on the website and support that I was an addicted player, that doesn’t have authorization to be playing. Also both casinos, Twin Casino and Leon are both operating illegally in Portugal, and many people complain of how it’s not easy for players with problems to get excluded or blocked from their website. They make you share all your personal information and submit a request form for the exclusion that is not even in Portuguese and it’s a extremely difficult process. Please help me, in total I have lost more than 20000€ to Twin and Leon.
Twin Casino/Leon Casino failed to secure and protect a human life. The casino as no respect of any kind for a human being. I am self excluded addicted player, I have begged to support to block and exclude my account and they ignored my request, both Twin Casino and Leon still maintain my account open. I have lost all my money and life savings to these casino. I am excluded by the SRIJ the Portuguese game regulator.. and still after I informed twin that I had this problems they just let me spend all my money, not even with limits.. they failed with what they say on there website on responsible game.. they say if a player even mentions that he is addicted the account is suspended, limited or blocked. I just want my money back, please help me recovering the money I lost after I informed everyone on the website and support that I was an addicted player, that doesn’t have authorization to be playing. Also both casinos, Twin Casino and Leon are both operating illegally in Portugal, and many people complain of how it’s not easy for players with problems to get excluded or blocked from their website. They make you share all your personal information and submit a request form for the exclusion that is not even in Portuguese and it’s a extremely difficult process. Please help me, in total I have lost more than 20000€ to Twin and Leon.
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Twin Casino.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can better understand the situation.
When was the first time you informed this particular casino about a gambling problem?
Could you please share your communication with this particular casino? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at tomas@casino.guru, or post screenshots here
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
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Tomas
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Dear joaomarsh20,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Twin Casino.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can better understand the situation.
When was the first time you informed this particular casino about a gambling problem?
Could you please share your communication with this particular casino? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at tomas@casino.guru, or post screenshots here
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Tomas
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I don't have a printout of when I reported it because the company doesn't keep a record of the online chat here in Portugal or at least I can't see it, but Twin Casino has access, because when I asked why they didn't self-exclude me, they responded by email and gave a lot of excuses, like having to fill out the form myself... but the truth is that I informed him several times that I was even banned from playing. Attached is what the company told me about my request for help... basically they claim that in order to block or self-delete my account I would have had to fill in my personal information on their website! It doesn't make sense, to create an account and spend a lot of money they didn't ask for anything, to block the account when I mentioned the addiction made it really complicated. In fact, I still have an active account even after asking and mentioning that I am a risky player. It makes no sense that they didn't block my account because they claimed I had no data, now my data is complete and they still don't block my access, and I lost all my money. Help, please
Não tenho o print de quando informei porque a empresa não mantém um registo do chat online aqui em Portugal ou pelo menos não consigo ver, mas a Twin Casino tem acesso, pois quando questionei porque não me auto-excluíram responderam por email e deram um monte de desculpas, como o ter que ser eu a preencher o formulário.. mas a verdade é que informei várias vezes que estava até proibido de jogar. segue em anexo o que a empresa me disse acerca do meu pedido de ajuda.. basicamente alegam que para terem bloqueado ou autoexcluido a minha conta teria que ter preenchido as minhas informações pessoais no site deles! Não faz sentido, para criar conta e gastar imenso dinheiro não pediram nada, para bloquear a conta quando mencionei o vício complicaram imenso. Aliás, continuo com a conta ativa mesmo após pedir e mencionar que sou um jogador de risco. Não tem lógica não me terem bloqueado a conta porque alegam que nao tinha dados, agora estão os meus dados completos e continuam sem me bloquear o acesso, e perdi todo o meu dinheiro. Ajudem por favor
It's the same casino here in Portugal! It is no longer possible to access Leon at the moment, as they are illegal here in the country, the internet pages are always changing links, I only reported the case because I noticed that both sites were the same and I was talking to the same people
É o mesmo cassino aqui em Portugal! Já nem é possível aceder á Leon de momento, como estão ilegais aqui no país as páginas de internet estão sempre a mudar de link, só reportei o caso porque reparei que ambos os sites eram iguais e estava a falar com as mesmas pessoas
As you can see here it is the same Casino, the employees are the same and they even use Twin's email when representing Leon..
it's all the same thing, all from the same company Moonlite NV Both casinos are completely illegal here in Portugal, and with many unresolved complaints.
Como podem ver aqui é o mesmo Casino, os funcionários são os mesmo e até utilizam o email da Twin ao representar a Leon..
é tudo a mesma coisa, tudo da mesma empresa Moonlite N.V. Ambos os casinos estão completamente em situação ilegal aqui em Portugal, e com bastantes reclamações por resolver.
We understand casinos might have procedures in place for activating a self-exclusion. From the screenshots presented it seems the casino informed you in good faith on how to proceed with self-exclusion of your account.
After you filled in your personal information in your casino profile, have you contacted the casino again with your request?
Could you please share a timeline of events, explaining when you filled in your casino profile, when you contacted the casino, made subsequent deposits, and when the casino blocked your account?
Have you expressed any concerns to the casino regarding not being able to understand the instructions on the website of the Kahnawake regulator?
Have you contacted the casino's regulator regarding assistance in completing self-exclusion?
We understand casinos might have procedures in place for activating a self-exclusion. From the screenshots presented it seems the casino informed you in good faith on how to proceed with self-exclusion of your account.
After you filled in your personal information in your casino profile, have you contacted the casino again with your request?
Could you please share a timeline of events, explaining when you filled in your casino profile, when you contacted the casino, made subsequent deposits, and when the casino blocked your account?
Have you expressed any concerns to the casino regarding not being able to understand the instructions on the website of the Kahnawake regulator?
Have you contacted the casino's regulator regarding assistance in completing self-exclusion?
Did the casino act in good faith? The emails you received were after I asked for help and lost all my money! On April 3rd, I contacted Twin customer support through the website in my customer area, I informed customer support that I am a compulsive addicted gambler, who was self-excluded at national level by the entity that regulates gaming in Portugal, the SRIJ, I even informed the assistant that I was a risky gambler who had already attempted suicide, but they still didn't do what I asked, they didn't suspend me or block my account, they didn't even impose any limits! In fact, they never even let me suspend my account, and yesterday perhaps out of fear of what might happen, and after I sent copies of the complaints I presented, they sent me an email asking if I wanted to delete my Twin account! Completely ridiculous, previously it wasn't even possible to block or self-delete, now out of possible fear of reprisals they sent an email to delete my account and my data... first they let me spend all my money without limits, I could only self-delete -delete by filling out a form (which no longer exists). I have already written a complaint to the KGC Kahnawake Gaming Commission, and they are looking into the case.. but I think the Twin and Leon employees here in Portugal are a little confused, they say that their license is from Curacao, however the What they have on the website is the self-exclusion form from KGC.
Even worse, the day after my request for help, on April 4th, that is, after spending more than €10,000 at Twin Casino, I receive an email from Twin, introducing João Miranda, my new account manager. , something I never asked for! In fact, after I mention that I have a problem and lose everything, they still send an email to encourage me to deposit and lose more, totally inhumane! Note that there is also a clear violation of GDPR data protection, the email comes from Twin, but the account manager identifies himself as being from Leon! They say they are different companies, they even told me they didn't know anything about Leon but apparently they are the same people!
Where is the player protection?
O casino agiu de boa fé? Os emails que vocês vêm foi já depois de ter pedido ajuda e ter perdido todo o meu dinheiro! No dia 03 de abril contactei o suporte ao cliente da Twin através do site na minha área de cliente, informei o suporte ao cliente que sou um jogador viciado compulsivo, que estava auto-excluído a nível nacional pela entidade que regula os jogos em Portugal, o SRIJ, informei até o assistente que era um jogador de risco que já tinha tentado o suicídio, mas mesmo assim não fizerem o que pedi, não me suspenderam ou bloquearam a conta, nem sequer impuseram limites nenhuns! Aliás, nunca me deixaram sequer suspender a minha conta, e ontem talvez por medo do que possa acontecer, e após eu enviar cópias das queixas que apresentei, enviaram-me um email a perguntar se queria eliminar a minha conta na Twin! Completamente ridículo, anteriormente não dava nem para bloquear ou auto-excluir, agora com possível medo de represálias enviaram email para eliminar a minha conta e os meus dados.. primeiro deixaram-me gastar todo o meu dinheiro sem limites, só dava para me auto-excluir preenchendo um formulário (que já não existe). Já escrevi uma reclamação á KGC Kahnawake Gaming Comission, e eles estão a analisar o caso.. mas acho que os funcionários da Twin e da Leon aqui em Portugal estão um pouco confusos, eles dizem que a licença deles é de curacao, no entanto o que têm no site é o formulário de auto-exclusão é da KGC.
Pior ainda, no dia a seguir ao meu pedido de ajuda, no dia 4 de abril, ou seja após gastar mais de 10.000€ na Twin Casino, recebo um e-mail vindo da Twin, apresentado o João Miranda o meu novo gestor de conta, coisa que eu nunca pedi! Aliás, depois de eu referir que tenho um problema e perder tudo, ainda mandam email para incentivar a depositar e perder mais, totalmente desumano! Reparem que também existe uma clara violação de RGPD proteção de dados, o email vem da Twin, mas o gestor de conta identifica-se como sendo da Leon! É que dizem que são empresas diferentes, mesmo eles disseram-me que não sabiam de nada da Leon mas pelos vistos são as mesmas pessoas!
Twin Casino has already been resolved, now all that's left is Leon who owes me €2450... they stole my money and won't give it back. I have already written complaints to the KGC Kahnawake Gaming Commission, Mohawk Council of Kahnawàke, CGB Curaçao gaming control board and the antilliphone NV company that regulates them in Curaçao. At least it was resolved with Twin and they refunded me €9360.
I'm still waiting for a response from Leon, despite being from the same company, Leon's support here in Portugal is horrible, they speak in a threatening tone and follow procedures that violate European GDPR data protection. For example, they ask not only for a copy of your citizen card, but also a bank account statement, proof of address, front and back of the card used for deposits, they ask you to take a photo holding your identity document and hold a paper with the word Leon written on it... I question the entire legality of this process, because what it seems to me is that they make account verification as difficult as possible. At this moment my account was DELETED by Leon... all I have left is the customer number which was 78999605.
A Twin Casino já ficou resolvido, agora só falta mesmo a Leon que tem um montante de 2450€ de dívida comigo.. roubaram-me o dinheiro e não devolvem. Já escrevi reclamações para a KGC Kahnawake Gaming Commission, Mohawk Council of Kahnawàke, CGB Curaçau gaming control board e para a antilliphone N.V empresa que os regula em Curaçau. Pelo menos com a Twin resolveu e devolveram-me 9360€.
Estou á espera de uma resposta da Leon ainda, apesar de serem da mesma empresa, o suporte da Leon aqui em Portugal é horrível, falam em tom ameaçador e seguem procedimentos que violam a proteção de dados Europeia RGPD. Por exemplo, pedem não só uma cópia do cartão de cidadão, mas também como extrato da conta bancária, comprovativo de morada, frente e verso do cartão utilizado para os depósitos, pedem que você tire uma foto segurando o seu documento de identidade e segurem um papel com a palavra Leon escrita.. questiono toda a legalidade deste processo, pois a mim o que me parece é que dificultam a verificação de conta ao máximo. Neste momento a minha conta foi ELIMINADA pela Leon.. só me resta o número de cliente que era 78999605.
The only thing left is the amount of €2450 left in Leon Portugal, €2450 disappeared from my account and Leon's support is terrible and didn't help at all, they still managed to remove my complaint alleging defamation, there is a criminal complaint filed with the Portuguese Judiciary Police , against the company Leon, do not respond, and report the case as unresolved on the Portuguese Complaint Portal, the only representative they have called "Jorge" always responds in a very rude way and tries to intimidate customers, even violating the policy GDPR data protection policy, and called my cell phone number, Leon says she doesn't know how the money disappeared and blames me, claiming that I must have spent it. Completely ridiculous, I even had my bank account compromised, I had to cancel all my cards. Complaint Complaint was also filed with the SRIJ Gaming Regulation and Inspection Service.
Fica apenas a faltar o montante de 2450€ na Leon Portugal, desapareceu 2450€ da minha conta e o suporte da Leon é terrível e não ajudou em nada, ainda conseguiram remover a minha queixa alegando difamação, existe uma queixa crime apresentada na Polícia Judiciária Portuguesa, contra a empresa Leon, não respondem, e derem o caso como sem solução no Portal da Queixa Português, o único representante que têm chamado de "Jorge"responder sempre de forma muito rude e tenta intimidar os clientes, chegou até a violar a política de proteção de dados RGPD, e ligou para o meu número de telemóvel, a Leon diz que não sabe como o dinheiro desapareceu e mete as culpas em mim, alegando que o devo ter gasto. Completamente ridículo, fiquei até com a minha conta bancária comprometida, tive que cancelar todos os cartões. Queixa Apresentada também queixa no Serviço de regulamentação e Inspeção de Jogos SRIJ.
There is no correspondence, both the bank and the casino say they can't do anything and I have to wait for a police investigation. I have filed a complaint with the police against Leon and the payment provider. The problem is that the Leon casino is illegal in Portugal. The SRIJ and public security police are trying to close Casino Leon and Twin even though there are several fraud situations, player protection problems, among other situations. The police themselves don't know how to do it or act... as the company is based in Curaçao. They use the same payment provider that almost all fraudsters use here in Portugal, "EuPago, Inst Porto" the police are full of complaints about this casino and this institution, funds that disappear, deposits made without people's consent. At the moment there is only €2450 left to get everything sorted out. Because this money disappeared from my account after opening a link from Leon Casino. I can send you a copy of the police report of the crime if you want.
Não existe correspondência, tanto o banco como o casino dizem que não podem fazer nada e tenho que aguardar investigação policial. Tenho queixa apresentada na polícia contra a Leon e o provedor de pagamentos. O problema é que o casino Leon está em estado ilegal em Portugal. O SRIJ e polícia de segurança pública estão a tentar fechar o Casino Leon e Twin mesmo por existirem diversas situações fraude, problemas de proteção de jogador entre outras situações. A própria polícia não sabe como fazer nem agir… pois a empresa está sediada em Curaçau. Utilizam o mesmo provedor de pagamentos que quase todos os burlões usam aqui em Portugal, "EuPago, Inst Porto" a polícia está cheia de queixas deste casino e desta instituição, fundos que desaparecem, depósitos feitos sem consentimento das pessoas. Neste momento faltam apenas 2450€ para ficar tudo resolvido. Pois esse dinheiro desapareceu da minha conta depois de abrir um link da Leon Casino. Posso enviar se quiser uma cópia do auto polícia de queixa crime se quiser
Both the Casino, the Bank and "EuPago" which processes payments to Leon, say that I have to wait for the police investigation, the truth is that I have been waiting for almost 2 months! I even canceled all the cards in that bank account and closed the account and changed banks! I was very scared, all my data was compromised at Leon. The fact that the company is illegal and uses several sites with different links makes it quite unsafe
tanto o Casino como o Banco e a "EuPago" que processa os pagamentos á Leon, dizem que tenho que aguardar pela investigação policial, a verdade é que já estou há quase 2 meses á espera! Cancelei até todos os cartões dessa conta bancária e encerrei a conta e mudei de banco! Fiquei com muito medo, todos os meus dados foram comprometidos na Leon. O facto de a empresa estar ilegal e utilizar vários sites com links diferentes torna-o bastante inseguro
And the company Leon removed all my complaints from the competent authorities here in Portugal, alleging defamation. I even received a call from the person who handles Leon Portugal's complaints, a man called "Jorge" who spoke in a very intimidating and threatening tone... putting the blame on me. They never found a solution to the problem. They deleted my Leon account so as not to leave a trace
E a empresa Leon removeu todas as minhas reclamações das autoridades competentes aqui em Portugal, alegando difamação. Recebi até uma chamada de quem trata das reclamações da Leon Portugal, um senhor chamado "Jorge" que falou num tom muito intimidante e ameaçador.. metendo as culpas em mim. Nunca acharam uma solução para o problema. Apagaram a minha conta Leon para não deixa rasto
If the investigation went to the police and your bank and the casino are involved in an official investigation, I am afraid we won't be able to assist you. In our experience, if the police is involved, casinos usually refuse to communicate details to third-party mediators.
Please send me the correspondence in which the casino refuses to comment on your questions due to an ongoing police investigation. If you wish you may send the police report, but considering the situation, it's not necessary for us. My email is tomas@casino.guru
If the investigation went to the police and your bank and the casino are involved in an official investigation, I am afraid we won't be able to assist you. In our experience, if the police is involved, casinos usually refuse to communicate details to third-party mediators.
Please send me the correspondence in which the casino refuses to comment on your questions due to an ongoing police investigation. If you wish you may send the police report, but considering the situation, it's not necessary for us. My email is tomas@casino.guru
Tomas is indifferent whether the complaint went to the police or not... the Portuguese police said they couldn't do anything. The complaint was filed because Leon is illegal in Portugal and does not even have a legal representative or offices in our country! Which is the worst part about these casinos that operate without national regulation
Tomas é indiferente se a queixa foi para a polícia ou não.. a polícia portuguesa disse que não podia fazer nada. A queixa foi arquivada pois a Leon está ilegal em Portugal e não tem sequer um representante legal ou escritórios no nosso país! Que é a pior parte destes casinos que operam sem regulamentação nacional
Why hasn't a legal representative from Leon responded here yet? Just like Twin Casino did? Leon support doesn't want to know? Don't customer opinions and complaints count for anything?
Today an email was sent with my entire history with Leon and Moonlite NV Casinos and the various crimes committed by the company in Portuguese territory. It was sent to 13 competent authorities, including Kahnawake Gaming Commission, Antillephone NV, Governor of Curaçao, Embassy of the Netherlands Antilles, Curaçao Gaming Control Board etc.. along with 28 annexes proving the company's failures with Portuguese customers, the various violations of GDPR data protection as well as various player protection gaps.
The use of celebrities and influencers to promote Leon on social media is also proven, thus advertising an unregulated and illegal Casino in Portugal, which is a crime. In these same famous videos they tell people to bet their entire salary on Leon... completely shameful and inhumane. Where is Leon's team? Where is the Compliance team for such a large company? Moonlite Casinos are causing huge damage in Portugal and hundreds and hundreds of people are becoming addicted to gambling and losing everything because of this company. They don't know how to impose limits or protect the player... if they see that you deposit a lot, they will still send emails offering money to feed the addiction and make the customer deposit more and more. Some authority should do something about this! I am also starting to question the legality of the company even in Curaçao, since in the same address there are hundreds of casinos registered under different companies... but all with the same address and door number.
The Casino is not transparent and blatantly lies on their website, saying that this Casino is legal in Portugal... making people believe that they are protected... but it is not true. This casino does not have a license to operate in Portugal.
I am attaching the prints of the authorities contacted and also of the Leon website where they lie and say that the company is legal in Portugal.
Porque é que ainda não veio um representante legal da Leon responder aqui? Tal como fez a Twin Casino? O suporte da Leon não quer saber? A opinião e as reclamações dos clientes não contam para nada?
Hoje mesmo foi enviado email com toda a minha história com a Leon e os Casinos da Moonlite N.V e os vários crimes cometidos pela empresa em território Português. Foi enviado a 13 autoridades competentes, incluindo Kahnawake Gaming Commission, Antillephone N.V, Governadora de Curaçao, Embaixada das Antilhas da Holanda, Curaçau Gaming Control Board etc.. juntamente com 28 anexos que prova as falhas da empresa com clientes Portugueses, as várias violações de proteção de dados RGPD tal como a várias falhas de proteção ao jogador.
Fica também provado o uso de celebridades e influencers para divulgar a Leon nas redes sociais, fazendo assim publicidade a um Casino não regulamentado e ilegal em Portugal, que é crime. Nesses mesmo vídeos famosos dizem ás pessoas para apostarem todo o seu salário na Leon.. completamente vergonhoso e desumano. Onde está a equipa da Leon? Onde está a equipa de Compliance de uma empresa tão grande? Os Casinos da Moonlite estão a provocar um estrago muito grande em Portugal e centenas e centenas de pessoas estão a ficar viciadas no jogo e a perder tudo por causa desta empresa. Não sabe impor limites nem protege o jogador… se virem que vocês depositam muito ainda enviam emails a oferecer dinheiro para alimentar o vício e fazer o cliente voltar a depositar mais e mais. Alguma autoridade faça algo em relação a isto! Começo também a questionar a legalidade da empresa mesmo em Curaçau, visto que na mesma morada existem centenas de casinos registados sob empresas diferentes.. mas todos com a mesma morada e número de Porta.
O Casino não é transparente e mente descaradamente na página de internet deles, dizendo que este Casino é legal em Portugal… fazendo as pessoas acreditar que estão protegidas.. mas não é verdade. Este casino não tem licença para exercer atividade em Portugal.
envio em anexo os prints das autoridades contactadas e também do site da Leon onde mentem e dizem que a empresa está legal em Portugal.
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