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chinyuhansinhua
9 months ago

Well, a Maltese judgment based on a Maltese law, which is null and void, or a judgment from Austria??

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abelinglaekamp
9 months ago

Correctly.

As I said, if things go normally, then the lawyers are all there. But if it becomes difficult, the answers will also become difficult.

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abelinglaekamp
9 months ago

of course from Austria

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Judgement
9 months ago

OK. They just try everything to get around it.

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abelinglaekamp
9 months ago

Great, thank you!

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9 months ago

Does anyone have experience with a lawsuit against lapalingo? It now also has a license, but the operator has changed slightly.

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9 months ago

Hello, I would like to know if there is a casino that pays well for the affiliate option, and is safe?

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abelinglaekamp
9 months ago

I referred to the most recent judgments against TSG on the ecourts site, where the application was rejected.

Application for an appeal to the ECJ

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LG

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9 months ago

Ahhh, OK. Good morning, I'll take a look.

However, I am of the opinion that a Maltese court should not have appealed to the European Court of Justice because of a law that violates EU law, which the European Court of Justice will certainly see the same way and will then initiate infringement proceedings. It's all just delay.

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9 months ago

The "delay" has already been very successful, I know of cases that have been delayed for over 8 years now.....what does it actually look like if you scrape off in the meantime, are the claims inheritable?

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9 months ago

So maybe you can remember that here in Germany, someone once won against Pay Pal in front of the LG Ulm. This then went before the Stuttgart Higher Regional Court. SINCE Pay Pal is based in Luxembourg and he used a business account because he had a business account with PAY Pal, THE Stuttgart Higher Regional Court presented THE case to the ECJ. Unfortunately, older passed away at the beginning of 2020, in April. The case is inheritable when the inheritance is received. It's part of the inheritance. Unfortunately, this has not been continued until now. The Higher Regional Court did not make any further judgment. He was only 40 years old 😊. I had written a lot with him and his knowledge was light years ahead of me. He also had a law firm class. Lenne & Partner. I was in contact with them for a long time.

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chinyuhansinhua
9 months ago

8 years? Which cases would those be?

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chinyuhansinhua
9 months ago

LG Ulm, December 16, 2019 - 4 O 202/18

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voizua92
9 months ago

Well, 8 years, I think that's easy... I've been waiting exactly 3 years... I think the ECJ will be in 2025-2026 and then initiate execution in Malta... you're easily at 6-8 years...

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abelinglaekamp
9 months ago

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February 2, 2021

PayPal and online gambling: OLG Stuttgart asks ECJ

The Ulm regional court ruled in our client's favor: PayPal was then used as a payment service for illegal gambling offers and was liable for losses. PayPal did not accept this judgment and appealed to the Stuttgart Higher Regional Court.

As we have already reported, the judges there announced in the oral hearing on October 30, 2020 that they would refer the matter to the European Court of Justice in order to have the international jurisdiction of the German courts determined.

This is necessary because the proceedings before the Stuttgart Higher Regional Court involve an unusual set of facts: the player paid from a business account. The detour to the ECJ has nothing to do with the usual consumer use of PayPal services. This development is therefore of little relevance to the vast majority of gamblers. What is positive, however, is that the issue of payment services for illegal offers is now receiving further attention.

We now have the verbatim decision of the Stuttgart Higher Regional Court.

Accordingly, the 5th Senate of the Stuttgart Higher Regional Court leans towards the international jurisdiction of the German courts. If there is an allegation of payment involvement in illegal online gambling, the place of success should be located at the player's place of play, as long as this place corresponds to the place of residence of the injured party.

It remains to be seen how the European Court of Justice will position itself.

Unfortunately, the ECJ will not comment on the ban on participation in accordance with Section 4 Paragraph 1 Sentence 2 GlüStV. We continue to hope for a decision from the Federal Court of Justice.


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justus99
9 months ago

Yes 3 years since the lawsuit was filed or since the execution was initiated in Malta?

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9 months ago

According to information from my lawyer, the ECJ has 18 months and has to comment on it within this period.

The questions were already asked in May. Something will come soon

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voizua92
9 months ago

That's exactly how it is. And then we're off to Malta. 😂😂😂😂. They will more than confirm your past judgments and classify the new law as contrary to Union law and open THE procedure.

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voizua92
9 months ago

3 years since the lawsuit... my case hasn't even been executed in Malta yet... So I'm pretty sure (I just spoke to a friend recently, I have the same opinion) that (as far as Austria is concerned at least) the companies will file for bankruptcy, because then that's the case Many judgments have accumulated and they then say that it is no longer economical to continue the company and that is why the end of the area. Pop new company with new CEO and let's move on. And that is not forbidden and an ex-GF is not liable… it is simply a "normal" inso… and that is nothing forbidden.

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voizua92
9 months ago

I'm on LinkedIn and reading the rain exchange between lawyers.

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