Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 51)

We've been screwed for a long time. I don't believe in anything anymore. Gsindl, A...holes, crooks, criminals.

Fucking Jokerstars

This is currently being decided by the Eugh, based on the call from Malta. If the law is deemed to be contrary to EU law, contract infringement proceedings will begin. But actually they don't even have to, because the legal situation is clear in Europe, ruled by the ECJ in 2009 and only recently in 2023.

It's your own fault anyway.

If I'm not mistaken, you definitely can't sue the ZDL, but you can see which account the money goes to. You then have to file a claim against the ZDL to find out where the money went.

The good thing for me was that I only paid all payments via Klarna and Pay Pal. And Pay Pal said exactly which operator would get the money.

Furthermore, operators can change, but the parent company usually remains the same, so you can then sue the parent company. That's how it was for me back then, 777 changed operators, but of course the parent company remained the same. That's why my parent company was sued. With Bayton it was even easier because Klarna transferred directly to Bayton's own account. Of course, the Deutsche Handelsbank did not provide any information. In my case, you could even have sued the Handelsbank because they had a direct business relationship with them. As far as I know, the Handelsbank, before the reform, ended the business relationship with Bayton, for whatever reason(😁😁😜)

this was rejected by the Maltese court.

What was rejected?

Read the judgments from tsg on ecourts.

I also posted it on the previous pages

These judgments from Malta will all be considered null and void because this new law will not stand. In my case, the operator changed during the proceedings here in Germany, and my lawyer simply expanded the lawsuit to include the parent company.

Of course, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what happens if the operator closes down. But I also seem to remember that if a new operator takes over the site that someone else previously offered where you lost, these funds or losses also pass to the new operator.

Can you tell me roughly which side your judgments are on?

Hi guys,

The provider against whom I have an enforceable judgment is discontinuing its service and will not open a new casino. (Under the current LTD)

I still have a chance of getting the money; perhaps about the managers who simply opened another casino? Instead of Malta this time Curacau under another LTD

Unfortunately my lawyer can't help.

I thank you

As far as I understand some of the judgments and opinions of some lawyers, you of course have the chance to seize the managing director. Most of the time, the managing director also belongs to a parent company or the collapsed Ltd. Then the parent company should actually be liable. By the way, judgment can also be made in Curacao, because they belong to the Netherlands Antilles and therefore the Dutch state area. They have adopted some EU laws. There are already some judgments from Germany, e.g. B. LG Hamburg, from 2023

Thanks for your feedback.

the LTD operating on curacau has nothing to do with the LTD against which I have a judgment.

hence the specific question. WTF can I do now? After all, it's about 10k

Then it should go through the managing director. Which law firm have you had so far, if I may ask?

Who is to blame, us???

CLLB.

was there pretty much from the beginning.

But at some point the contact became less and answers became rare.

Of course they also collected money from me

Nothing has been decided at all at the ECJ because it has not even been decided that the matter will be submitted to the ECJ. Apparently Maltese courts decide whether they ask the ECJ or simply decide themselves and they have apparently decided not to involve the ECJ and simply decide themselves to judge that the EU illegal law of your corrupt government does not need any further assessment by the ECJ.....you are obviously not up to date, or have no idea at all anyway and your cases are old and have to do with the current problems nothing left to do...

Yes, you gambled away yourself or who else is to blame for the loss?

Oh, directly with Mr. Cocron?? They are actually by far the best and always very humane and always trying hard. I had that too back then, 3 years ago.

and again there are numerous judgments according to which the parent company is NOT liable, I have one here in front of me in black and white according to which Bet at Home AG is not responsible for the liabilities of Bet at Home Entertainment Ltd. liable....

Exactly, Eugh will not take care of this because it is inadmissible, the legal situation is clear and the law from Malta is null and void. Therefore, THE infringement procedure will then automatically be opened.

You, I got my money back in full. And it is the fault of those who offer German sites even though they are not permitted. Otherwise I wouldn't have cared. I had already finished 2020, but my lawyer encouraged me to continue.