9 months ago
My judgment has been final for almost a year now (OLG), but there is no progress in the payment (enforcement)...
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Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 50)
9 months ago
Yep, it'll take time, but I'd feel better once it's all over. After that, you just have to wait...please.
If everything turns out well for us, do you already have plans/thoughts about what you would do with the money?
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9 months ago
But I'm just wondering why there are so many judgments/proceedings etc. about Mr. Green and hardly any about Lottoland, for example.
Discussion stimulus
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9 months ago
Have you already seen the new judgments from tsg?? That's sick haha
Give yourself the decision
Now I'm excited...
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9 months ago
Let's roughly translate it for you
Ground of appeal: The request for referral is rejected.
Decide.
After we have made these considerations, the court will decide
Complainant's request dated October 30, 2023 from:
1. Reject the request to bring the matter before the Court of Justice of the Union
European for a preliminary ruling as it considers this to be correct
It is not necessary to decide on the merits of the appeal of these proceedings
Interpreting European law.
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9 months ago
Sobering 🙄🙄
As far as one can tell from the judgments against TSG, the decision to appeal to the ECJ was rejected. Is that correct?
So the last hope is now over, right? Eijeijei
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9 months ago
Good morning!
No, I successfully completed my proceedings with CLLB 3 years ago against 777 and Bayton Ltd. Well, since the lawyers always exchange ideas, my opinion is that in Germany there are no such difficulties as there are in yours. In the meantime, some of the previous black sheep also have a license here, so they will diligently pay back from before 2021, up to 10 years, with knowledge of the illegality, otherwise the license can quickly be revoked.
Wish you a nice weekend, everyone.
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9 months ago
Yes, 3 years ago it was much easier from an Austrian perspective to make comparisons and seize the casinos in Austria... now most people no longer have accounts in Austria and the new law protects them...
LG
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9 months ago
The law only protects them superficially, until they are given such a beating by Eugh that hearing and seeing disappears. For me there were no comparisons.
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9 months ago
Did you have a successful execution or were you simply paid by the casino upon request?
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9 months ago
I think TSG's ruling has nothing to do with G&L's application, if so we have to wait another year until the ECJ gets in touch
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9 months ago
Hello there! We tried it out of court first, but it was a waste of money. After filing the lawsuit, you saw it through to the end of the process. If Bayton hadn't paid back then, we would have seized their account. I found out where my money went using the IBAN. They went to Deutsche Handelsbank, based in Munich. But then we paid without any problems.
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9 months ago
After the lawsuit was filed, it took almost half a year. They have applied twice to delay it. Both had submitted applications.
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9 months ago
Yes, but it only worked because the accounts were in Germany...
This is no longer the case for some people in Austria
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9 months ago
Hey, I have a question, how could you find out which bank a provider had your account with before 2021 if you didn't transfer the money immediately but used PaySafe, PayPal etc.?
I have a title but I'm worried that if it doesn't get paid you'll have to find out which bank the provider was at in order to knock on the bank's door with this title. Does enforcement apply even if the bank was (now) a former bank?
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9 months ago
Almost every DE provider with a license now has a different operator than where you played.
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9 months ago
It's interesting that so many providers are popping up again to buy titles.
Maybe that's a good sign.
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9 months ago
It's probably time to pursue alternative solutions, perhaps the managing directors should receive visits from https://www.moskau-inkasso.com/ or similar to their private addresses more often...
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9 months ago
If we are dependent on the decisions of Maltese courts and even Maltese courts decide whether the matter goes to the ECJ or not, then we are obviously screwed...
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9 months ago
I'm just wondering why Maltese courts decide on this at all and not just infringement proceedings, EU exclusion proceedings etc. are initiated against this corrupt mafia state! What will they do with their Malta/supposedly EU license if the dirty country is kicked out of the EU?!
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