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BetWorld247 Casino - Player’s criticizing lengthy verification process.

Amount: €1,000

BetWorld247 Casino
Safety Index:Very low
Submitted: 04 Mar 2021 | Resolved : 11 May 2021
Resolved Our verdict

Case closed

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Case summary

3 years ago

The player from Germany is highly disappointed with time-consuming KYC procedure. The casino experienced issues with payment providers and was not able to pay the player his winnings, therefore we were forced to close this case as 'unresolved'. After a few weeks, we reopened this complaint as per the casino's request and it was confirmed by the player, that his issue is resolved.

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3 years ago
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I submitted documents to this provider for verification over seven days ago. After 48 hours I got the answer that the ID was accepted. However, the bank statement from January was not accepted even in clear form, with address and all transactions without blackening. I then uploaded the most recent account statement in clear form. I haven't received an update for this for 5 days. Support inquiries remain unanswered. Yesterday I was assured that they would reply within 2 hours regarding the verification. Then it was said that yesterday you will definitely answer. Today you don't answer at all. The amount cannot be paid out as long as the account is not verified - I suspect the provider simply does not generally want to make a payout. By the way, all deposits are confirmed - so the casino already has the money. No further documents were requested from me. I never claimed a bonus.

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3 years ago

Dear Stephan,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. Please understand that KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. As they don't have the luxury of being able to physically see all of the players and check their identification and documents, this is the only way gambling establishments are able to complete the verification procedures. None of the licensed casinos takes KYC lightly.

It’s quite usual for this process to take a couple of working days to be fully completed.

Have you been advised what specifically seems to be a problem in verifying your account? Did you try to request a full list of documents required to complete the KYC verification?

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Petronela

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3 years ago
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Hello, in the meantime I have been told what the problem is supposed to be. I'm supposed to be traveling with two different IP addresses and now I had to read the bank statements from the last 6 !!! Months and submit my bank card. In clear form, of course, without blackening out transactions. I have already uploaded my identity card, address confirmations and a bank statement beforehand. I have over € 2,500 in credit and it looks as if I don't want to be paid out. It is not possible to set a limit, it can be automatically renewed 100 times a day, if desired, and takes effect immediately. The provider is playing for time and hoping that I will lose the amounts

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3 years ago
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In case there is any doubt about the seriousness. Yesterday I set a limit of € 1 per bet. Today this limit, which was definitely stored in the account, has been adjusted to € 100. The provider clearly only plays on time. The promised response to the new documents within 48 hours will also soon expire.

I am happy to take a screenshot with time information later. The provider will keep changing the limit. That happened again now

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3 years ago

Thank you very much, Stefan, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Martin who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

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3 years ago
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Even today, four days after submitting the other required documents, I do not receive any feedback. Verification has still not taken place. In the meantime I have blocked myself from the casino for 6 months. The problem, however, is that after 24 hours, the lock can be ended with immediate effect at any time. Dan can be played again immediately. This has been going on for several days now. The credit is just under € 1,600. The provider deliberately does not verify me!

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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


I will take care of your complaint from now on.

Firstly, I would like to ask you, do I understand it correctly, that the original amount that you were about to withdraw of €2429 is now reduced to sum just under €1600?

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3 years ago
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That's correct, I lost € 800 through the chicane. I blocked the account for one year, the block can be lifted with immediate effect after 24 hours.

In addition to the various excerpts, I would have to inform the provider of all IP addresses. Sometimes I have no idea what they're doing at all. Obviously, the aim is simply to prevent the payout by any means. Even the bank card in clear form, without blackening, and the bank statements from the last 6 months are not enough for them. Never seen it like this anywhere else. The provider just doesn't seem to want to pay out, despite the alleged mga license

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3 years ago

Stefan, although I understand that this situation is very frustrating for you, I would like to ask you to refrain from using your funds, as when you loose them, we will not be able to help you.

I would like to invite Betworld247 Casino's representatives into this discussion, to help us with solving this complaint.

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3 years ago
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Gladly, from now on I have further restricted my account. The rest remains. I want to know myself whether the provider is a scam.

Update: betworld247 will not pay out even after the last 6 bank statements + bank card have been sent. I have now received this information. The reason given is that I was logged in with different IPs. The money stays with the company. Why should I then submit the extracts at all remains a mystery to me.

The crazy thing is that I made very little money. Probably a black sheep in the industry that you have to warn against.


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3 years ago

Dear Martin,


Once again,thank you for contacting us regarding this matter.

Not much we can add to this topic as you have already reached us via our support email.

You as a betting website and forum must know and understand and that also goes for our clients as well,that online sports betting and gambling industry is a very sensitive industry when it comes to some areas of business and that it calls for caution.

First of all,we do not recognize this unregistered user Stefan,this user should use his real name.

Proper documentation is definitely one of them,so is following verification procedures that are connected to our AML ( Anti Money Laundering) team and their policy and rules. We as a company are obliged to wait for a positive confirmation from their side that everything is in order with every single client of ours and with the documents that they provide.

When it comes to this client in particular, there were many suspicious alerts and behaviors that had to be taken into consideration when deciding what to do with his account.

One of those being multiple numerous IP Addresses used from different cities, which are more than two and a half hours of driving distance,but yet somehow this client managed to log into his account from these different addresses within only 40 minutes time,that is highly unlikely and immediately causes suspicion. We shall provide you with the screenshots of some of these logins and logouts. This is something that happened repeatedly in less than seven days. His IP addresses showed us that he was logging in from four different cities in Germany: Mönchengladbach, Dortmund, Düsseldorf and Frankfurt.

Second issue that caused extra attention and caution is with his deposit transactions and many problems that those caused us. To be specific,those deposits were made using Paypal,and while some of them were completely fine, some of them were causing us difficulties as those payments did not go through,meaning he was making the deposit, we were providing him with the credits on his account on our website, but yet the money did not show on our account balance and this made it seem like we were giving him free betting services and you must realize the severity of that issue. 

All of these issues mentioned above took us a bit more time to go through everything and resolve the problem.

This client's account is now verified and he is capable of withdrawing his money.


We must add and say that have seen the complaint on your website and since this player was highly disrespectful towards us and had this threatening manner that he was going to contact you,and that is not the issue at all,we expect a bit more respect to be shown towards our company and we do not think that it is fair to make judgement based on this type of situations.

We are a company that treats its clients with high respect and we are always there to provide proper and quick answers.

We must add,this client is currently being paid his winnings and his account has been verified.

We will not be involved in any further discussion and we consider this issue to be resolved.

Also,from now on,we will not tolerate any offensive and foul language that has been used by this client towards our company name and its employees.


Finally, we are sorry for all of the inconvenience caused and also glad to see this whole situation resolved as we feel that there was no need for all of this,just a bit more patient from the mentioned client and this whole situation would have been resolved.

And of course, you can always contact us on our email address, for any reason.


Kind regards!

Betworld247


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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


Thanks to the response provided by Betworld247 Casino's representatives, I'd like to ask you to confirm that you are currently withdrawing funds from your casino account.

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The account is verified. The payout is now processed for almost 48 hours. Betworld has problems with PayPal that have to be fixed first. I believe the provider and will be happy to give you an update as soon as it arrives. I am not to blame for any of the failed transactions, which Betworld has also confirmed. I even offered compensation several times. However, according to internal mails, it should definitely be paid out. The only question is when exactly the payment can be made.

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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


I'd like to ask you to let us know when you receive your withdrawals.

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I'll be happy to do that then. Even well over 72 hours after the requested payout, this has apparently not yet been processed, according to betworld. The support cannot help with this.


My account is verified, but I cannot withdraw any further withdrawals after I have made another deposit and won, despite my credit balance. The withdrawal button has been removed for me.


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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


I'd like to ask you to compose some screenshots of the situation that you described above. Please send them to 'martin.d@casino.guru'.

Regarding your withdrawal, I'd suggest that we wait for a few more days. Hopefully your withdrawal will appear on your account soon.

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Has been sent. Even 6 full days after the requested payout, absolutely nothing happened. According to betworld, there has still not been a payout. The support cannot say when this will finally take place. I am still unable to make a second withdrawal because the button has been removed. So it is not as betworld describes "This customer's account is now verified and he can withdraw his money". I can only withdraw my money to a limited extent. Without a button to pay out it will be difficult ...

Contrary to what betworld describes, the problem is not solved! Quote betworld:


"... are happy that this whole situation has been resolved, as we are of the opinion that none of this was necessary, just a little more patiently from the mentioned customer, and this whole situation would have been resolved".


The payout has not been processed for 6 days, despite the promises. This is certainly not normal.

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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


I've been in touch with the casino's representatives. According to them, you should be able to withdraw your funds via bank transfer due to the troubles with PayPal, they also informed me, they will not accept PayPal transactions in the future, as for the mentioned troubles.

I've also been informed that the limit for these withdrawals should be €500 daily.

Please, keep me updated on the process of your withdrawals.

Looking forward for hearing from you.

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Hello, the first two payments of € 500 have been made. That seems to be working now. Many thanks for your help

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Hello Stefan!


I am delighted to see that there is a positive movement with your withdrawals.

Looking forward for hearing you'll receive the last withdrawal.

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Unfortunately, the last three payouts are delayed a bit. It is a bit frightening that apparently only 3 withdrawals of € 500 each are possible per week. Even permanent account closings can be lifted with immediate effect - you should apparently play absolutely. I thank this provider for drastically limiting me. This makes it completely uninteresting to continue playing with them. The payments have been requested - I hope they will arrive soon.

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Hello Stefan!


Thank you for keeping the information up to date with us. I am looking forward to hear that you received all your withdrawals.

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I checked again. Only ONE payout has been made so far (€ 500). This is on March 16. arrived on my account. Four more (€ 500 each) have still not arrived.

That the provider does not transfer such a small amount is puzzling to me. My request in this regard has not yet been answered. Payouts seem to be very rare at the casino.


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The provider wrote to me today, after well over a week, that my payouts were causing problems again. This time it is supposedly the bank's fault. There are always new excuses. So the payout has still not been made. Only one payment of € 500 was made.

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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


Please note, that sometimes the payment processes are not only in hands of the casinos.I would like to suggest you to be a little bit more payment and I sincerely hope that your funds will find their way to your account soon.

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I like waiting. According to the provider, the payout has still not been carried out: "Unfortunately, at the moment I have no new information for you regarding your transfer. However, as far as I know, you will be paid out in full at some point."

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The provider's bank has now allegedly declined the payment. They are already working with the lawyers to get their own PayPal problems under control. There will probably be no payout for the next 180 days. After that, probably. So much for seriousness. I am happy to provide the correspondence.

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3 years ago

I would like to ask Betworld247 Casino's representatives to try and find an alternative payment solution for the player.

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The casino has now confirmed that there will be no payout at the moment. It will probably take 180 days until PayPal releases their account again. But I should contact paypal once so that the account can be activated faster if necessary. I should solve their paypal problems. Incredible!

According to Betworld's statement, the bank no longer carries out bank transfers. Why the first one then worked is a mystery to me.

I suggested withdrawing via skrill. But betworld has obviously had a quarrel with this provider too, because this payment method has also been frozen. WOW!

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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


I was in touch with Betworld247 Casino's representatives via email. It looks like they are going through some difficulties. As you already described, they suggested you to keep trying for the PayPal withdrawals. Although, the situation seems to be pretty bad with their PayPal options, they acknowledged me that payment via different payment method will not be unfortunately possible, due to the Anti-Money Laundering regulations, which they are already working on.

Please note, that regarding payment of your full amount, they guarantee that when all the issues with the providers are settled, you will be payed in full.

I suppose there is not much we can do in this situation other than wait. Given the length of the process (180 days) I will have to close the complaint and I hope in 180 days we will able to re-visit this case with 'resolved' badge on it.

Is there anything else I could help you with?

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MADNESS! The provider is clearly playing on time and asks me to fix his PayPal problems. Terrifying

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And a new development. I contacted PayPal and they investigated the matter.


My transactions with MKC have all been successfully completed. PayPal tells me they don't see any locks on the account. You can receive money from the MKC. If the sender has any issues with their account, I suggest that they contact us about this. Then we can check his account.


So much for the subject. I can no longer log in to betworld247. I'm afraid I'll have to write off the money because betworld apparently never contacted paypal. Instead, my account at betworld is now closed.

PayPal keeps texting me: I'm sorry, but I can't verify until the owner of this account contacts me. Please let him contact us. We are happy to help you in this matter.

If he had contacted us, all information about his account would have been provided to him.

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3 years ago

Hello Stefan!


Thank you for keeping us up to date with your issue. Please, allow me to get into this matter further, I will reply within a few days.

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I can now log in again. The payouts, which have been pending for almost a month, are still unprocessed. I do not receive an answer as to why a payment was first made by the bank, and now no longer. They have now sent me a screenshot that they have contacted PayPal. Skrill cannot be used either, as the provider also has problems with this provider. I am also indirectly told not to describe the case here. However, I do not receive any answers to essential questions. I even offered to deposit some new money in the bank so that you can then withdraw it from the bank. The provider does not want that either.

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Hello Stefan!


I would like to ask you to provide us with any records of communication that you described above? You can do so by sending it to my email address: 'martin.d@casino.guru'.

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Hello Martin,

everything is shipped. PayPal told me over the phone that such betting providers are now viewed critically. I should assume that even after the time window no payout is possible with paypal. The provider should therefore try another method now. They even advise me to contact a lawyer, which I did yesterday.

In addition, there is still the question of why a bank transfer worked. Then suddenly the path is no longer possible because the bank refuses to carry it out. I also sent a receipt stating that you are ready to part with the bank and make the transfer through other means. So far all empty promises.

Thanks for the help!


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The provider got in touch today. The PayPal account can be used for the provider's own payments. Of course, that still doesn't seem to work - as expected. You are by no means willing to use another payment method, as you have probably got into trouble with aml internally. It's about € 2,000, nothing more. Everyone should like to get an idea of the long procedure. I'll give the case for legal advice in a few days so that they can pursue it. My lawyer presented several solutions, all of which I mentioned to the provider. One does not want to go into all of them.

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Hello Stefan!


Could you please write the current amount that you'd like to withdraw from the casino, so I can update it?

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2000€

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Since it was previously mentioned Betworld247 Casino's representatives opted for not to reply within this complaint's thread, I'd like to mention that we are keeping the communication through emails:

I described the situation to the casino's representatives as following: the only solution for this issue in our point of view, is to find a viable payment method to let the player withdraw his winnings through in more reasonable amount of time than 180 days. The player is not responsible for any payment provider's issues that the casino is currently experiencing, therefore we consider aforementioned 180 days to be unreasonably long to wait for any kind of withdrawal.

Should there be no way that casino can process the withdrawal of the player, we will be forced to close this complaint as unresolved, which will have a negative impact on their rating.

I will post any update after I'll receive any kind of answer from Betworld247's team.

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Thanks. Betworld now seems to be interested in a solution. They definitely contacted PayPal today and it looks like they want a solution. I'm just frustrated after the long time

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PayPal told me that the provider should simply report in the chat. The payment to me would then be approved. I told Betworld about that. The provider writes to me that they are in constant contact with PayPal. I should just be patient. Easily falls after being harassed for over a month

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After I forwarded all the messages from paypal to betworld on how to solve the problem, it still doesn't go any further. Betworld doesn't give me an update. The endeavored support always replies that there is no other way to pay out. One would have played my messages forwarded by PayPal to supervisors. PayPal has informed me that my payments cannot be canceled. This is what betworld asked me to do - I should therefore contact PayPal. In principle, this is not possible with payments to betting providers - maybe betworld was even aware of that ?!


PayPal made it clear to me that betworld cannot pay out this way. The provider does not accept any other way and it doesn't seem to care that you ask for a payout via another way. Betworld will apparently not answer either - everything indicates to me that I will not receive the money. Which doesn't surprise me after all the harassment before.

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After a long wait, Betworld has finally responded to the transactions I complained about via PayPal. Why did they go unanswered for so long? Everyone should get an idea for themselves. Now € 800 will be reimbursed via paypal. I have just received the confirmation. The remaining € 1,200 will be paid out at some point, according to Betworld. One is still looking for a solution.

Yesterday evening they finally passed on my question to the management whether I can deposit via the bank and then withdraw via the bank. So far this has obviously just been avoided completely. I'll wait for the answer again. The provider probably didn't answer you?

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Hello Stefan!


Thank you for keeping me up to date, please let us know after you'll receive aforementioned €800, also please let us know what will be the outcome with the bank transfer withdrawal.

You are correct, I did not receive any response from Betworld247's team yet, however I think things have started moving at least somehow, which is a good thing.

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As discussed, I received the € 800. As expected, further communication has fallen asleep. The support did not get any information from the bosses of the company again. Communication is extremely tedious as betworld hardly gives any information without prior request.

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Betworld still cannot tell me when exactly the remaining amount will finally be paid out. In addition, the management obviously does not answer the information whether the remaining amount can simply be paid out via the bank. As far as I am concerned, you can close the ticket as unsolved. It makes no sense to follow up at betworld, as the provider gives practically no information without being asked. And when the information is extremely vague. I don't see a timely solution here ...

My subjective opinion is that even after almost two months there is no serious active search for a solution. On the contrary! If you consider that the provider on 10.3. said in the post that I can withdraw my money now and still not pay out in full, then that's not fair from my point of view.

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Hello Stefan!


I would like to ask you, is your remaining balance to withdraw €1200 now?

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No, the remaining balance has still not been paid !!!!!! Betworld doesn't give me any new information and just put me off for an indefinite period of time.

You can see how long this process has been open. Since the management of betworld supposedly never gets in touch with anything, I no longer have any hopes in this case. There were really only problems with this provider. I just don't get any information from them and they don't get in touch with you either. From my point of view, even after two months, betworld is not particularly interested in a solution. Otherwise you would get in touch proactively.

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Stefan, right now the disputed amount in your complaint is €2000, assuming you have received €800, I thought the remaining amount would be €1200, correct?

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€ 1,000 was paid out via PayPal. I'm still waiting for the remaining € 1,000. PayPal told me the provider would be happy to withdraw. But he still doesn't! There is no information at all. I don't see that the provider is interested in a real solution.

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Messages are also no longer replied to.

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Hello Stefan!


Thank you for providing us with your answers and additional information.


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The funds due to the player were still not payed out by the casino and the player no longer wants to pursue this case, we are forced to close this complaint as 'unresolved', which will have a negative impact on the casino's rating.

The casino did not respond to our messages and also did not come with any satisfactory solution for the player, as the problems with the payment providers were not the player's, we strongly believe, that Betworld247 Casino should have done more in this situation to pay out the player and resolve the issue.

In case the player would receive his winnings, this complaint can be reopened once again after providing us with a relevant evidence of the payout, or the player's confirmation.

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We’ve reopened this complaint as per the casino's request. We would like to give this case one more chance to get resolved and help both parties to reach to a satisfactory resolution.

According to information provided by representative of BetWorld247 Casino, the player should have received his withdrawals by now.

I would like to ask the player to confirm this information, so we can close this complaint as 'resolved'.

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There is still € 350 missing, which the provider deliberately delayed for another 6 days. Each of the bank withdrawals was an act. This was strictly limited for me and, for example, only made a € 61 withdrawal, although the € 350 withdrawal was pending much longer. I am incredibly happy that I have nothing more to do with this provider.

And another note: For each payout, I would have to ask for several days individually before it was carried out. I hope no other player has to go through this.

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Dear Stefan,


Thank you for the information you provided, so is this case resolved and may I proceed to close this complaint for good?

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Yes, I think the final payout will come. For every payout I would have to ask several times. For a very small profit. It's finally over. The process dragged the casino forever

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As the complaint has been successfully resolved, we will now close it as ‘resolved’ in our system. Thanks for cooperation and don’t hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future. We are here to help.

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