The player from Italy had the account blocked after accumulating a substantial amount of winnings due to additional checks. We ended up rejecting the complaint because it was not justified.
BETMASTER
On 21 April 2020 I was contacted in chat on the BETMASTER online betting site by the operator Leonardo, who asked me to send the documentation relating to the credit cards used for payments to the e-mail address security@betmaster.com withdrawals. I point out that I have been playing Betmaster for a few years, therefore I proceed to send the documentation, asking the operator for confirmation, which confirms receipt, then I return to play in casinoline always on Betmaster with a winning amount of almost 97000 figure collected after weeks of play with my payment in total of almost 20,000 euros, also stated that during the week I asked for some withdrawal of about 10,000 that was paid to me. always on the same date yesterday around 6 pm to play and I find the writing user blocked, I use the account of a friend of mine to enter the chat always succeeding with Leonardo who replies that my account had been blocked for checks on the account .
I think Betmaster is not serious and should be prosecuted so I politely ask you what steps to take to assert my rights and those of people who are in my same situation. If the situation does not resolve itself in my favor as is rightfully so because my payments for several thousand euros if they are taken I will make sure to advertise on the internet but above all with some television broadcast because people have to know who they play with. Thank you. I look forward to receiving your reply for the investigation you will carry out. thank you
Dear Francois,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your problem. We will contact the casino and ask for their cooperation in resolving your problem, but, before we do so, please could advise if you have received any notification from the casino regarding the additional checks of your account? If yes, please forward it to petronela.k@casino.guru. I believe we will be able to help you to resolve your problem as soon as possible. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Petronela
Thank you, sorry for inserting a wrong site but I have not found Betmaster, still today for a week always in chat with the betmaster operators Rosa and Leonardo that I always report the same thing, we are investigating, precise I have not received any email from of casino, I look forward and inform you for any news
Thank you very much Francois for your quick reply. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Thanks Petronela I remain available Peter will be able to count on my contribution to resolve this situation. Appearance
Hi Francois,
Could you please forward all relevant conversations with the casino to my email address (peter.m@casino.guru)? That would be very helpful.
Today the answer came via chat from betmaster who told me that my account was permanently closed because I accumulated the winnings using means unsuitable for the game, i.e. robots, scientific equipment etc .... I officially asked in writing for the reasons because I believe that they are only excuses and being clearly accusations against me very serious in fact I will take measures through lawyers in the appropriate national and international courts because these sites I have to finish deceiving people will be long not lost hope I won and I want to collect thank you for your understanding, I offer my best regards and fight with me
Hi Francois,
Thanks for the reply, I will contact the casino and see what its standpoint is.
Hi Peter yesterday April 27 2020 I officially sent this email to Betmaster (security@betmaster.com)
who received confirmed in chat from that Rosa customer support operator (I have photos of the chat) by writing this:
I am writing to report my next lawsuits, following the accusations against me, cause of your defaults.
The current situation is as follows: I was cheated by the Bet Master Italia company, which following my winnings of € 101,000 - attributable to bad luck free from the use of any technology aimed at altering the game results - refused to make the payment The company accused me of altering the game dynamics and blocking the account without any notification, and without being able to provide me with evidence that testified to their allegations. I am filing a complaint for non-payment. I grant the company a maximum period of 15 days, at the end of which, in the absence of a detailed and exhaustive response to the causes of their non-compliance with me, I will forward a complaint to the Guarantor Authority by initiating a verification procedure on the correctness of the company's work in object.
Best regards
nb. By doing careful research on the internet, some other players - betmaster customers also received the same treatment, it was just to inform you.
I remember very well that while I was playing only blackjack the game was resumed and recorded therefore ....... there are images
Hello and thank you for your support
Hi Francois,
Thank you for the update. I'm still trying to reach somebody in charge of the casino's complaints.
Today yet another proof of the incorrectness of betmaster they blocked my chat because I detected them and put in sight various very negative reviews as well as I managed to know various contact details of the company so I continue with my battle let's see who wins the war
From today they no longer receive my emails because they have also blocked the incoming mail in fact the emails that I send back to me precisely that have also blocked my friend's chat so when there is the rotten and do not face BETMASTER SCAPPA
Hello Francois,
I finally found a working email address, so we can expect a reply.
Thanks again we hope well also because soon the deadline that I have given to betmaster expires and I will move the legal practice
We would like to ask the Betmaster Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will mark the complaint ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Hello there,
Dear Casino Guru Team,
Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.
We will investigate this and update you accordingly.
Regards
Betmaster Casino
However, I would like to communicate that my lawyers and consultants are waiting for the answer from casino betmaster who in case of negativity will bring to the appropriate offices what has been affirmed via chat (in photographic possession) by the operators Rosa and Leonardo (who happens to be no longer in chat for a while) accusing me of being a scammer without ever showing evidence after 7 official requests sent to security@betmaster.com and in chat, which they automatically blocked, not giving me the opportunity to communicate. Thanks casinoguru looking forward
Dear Peter, surely they will never answer you because who is wrong and who cannot justify the accusations they have made against me, it is easy to escape but they have not understood that in this matter I will go to the bottom is as long as I have all the possibilities I will be able to achieve the result I deserve it because in life I have always behaved honestly and I will not allow anyone to point me out as a swindler they will also pay the charges and offenses
Questo è quello che si trova in rete su betmaster :
Hello I was looking for a new betting si
Hello I was looking for a new betting site. So I was looking in (askgamblers) then I found a site whit good reviews. Betmaster.com. so I did open account and starting to bet. Did lose my first deposit. So I deposit agen. And I was bit luck whit my bets and won 7000euro. And I tried to withdraw but they did take away the withdrew opinion one my account. And I start to talk about that. And all they say you need to wait. Next day I tried to log in then they had block my account. And I have talk to them many times one livechat whit any help or answers. So I don't understand way site like
Dear Betmaster Casino Team,
Has there been any progress regarding the issue?
Hi Peter if casino betmaster does not respond (it will never do so) as in the absence of both arguments and justification for the accusations attributed to me I ask you please if I can have a contact, a contact who gives the opportunity to my lawyers to proceed criminally directly at the aforementioned casino thanks
EMAIL SENT TO SECURITY@BETMASTER.COM
SUPPORT@BETMASTER.COM
The 15-day deadline granted to Betmaster to expire the serious debt position accrued towards me for an amount of 101,000 Euros and
in the absence of a detailed and exhaustive response on the causes of their defaults, my lawyers have initiated a complaint to the reference Authorities, which are carrying out a specific verification procedure on the correctness of the work of the aforementioned company.
Subject of complaint, the fraud suffered by the undersigned, which following the winnings, has closed the gaming account and all the communication channels with the company.
Through in-depth analyzes, it has been ascertained that this fraudulent method represents a consolidated and routine practice for the company. In particular, in order to avoid paying payments to players, the company accuses the players of "having altered the game dynamics through the use of robots and algorithms generated through the use of technological machinery", without then providing specific evidence and accurate. It also seems impossible to use the methods described, as it is online blackjack with live dealers who take care of accepting the bets of the players, serve at the game table, check the legality of the players' bets and pay the winnings, there are television recordings and therefore visible and searchable (as already requested through the competent company) so we are not talking about electronic slot machines.
In light of the above, I give the company 5 more days to get in touch with me and reach a peaceful resolution.
At the end of the same, in the absence of communication / peaceful agreement, my law firm will proceed to:
- inform the Curacao e-gaming licensing authority of the various defaults, including bureaucratic deficiencies, of the Betmaster platform (operation already in progress);
Inform Reinvent Ltd
- expand the dissemination of the news to all competitor and online gaming sites in general (operation already in progress) as well as to all the main Italian and foreign media agencies;
- register the complaint with the postal police and the Guardia di Finanza;
- initiate a specific court case for fraud.
Player protection agencies are already carrying out the necessary checks.
I REPORT THAT Other emails have already been sent asking for explanations on the work of the BETMASTER company towards me which have not been taken into consideration because we have not had any response THIS IS BETMASTER a sports betting and online casino company that shirks responsibility , which advertises its product for transparency and fairness is but only misleading advertising TO YOU ASSESSORS, THE BAD JUDGMENT
Email also sent to https://www.evolutiongaming.com/ with request for investigations and resolution of the problem in my favor because they will be legally affected
hi Peter can you please know which casino gives betmaster the service thanks
Hello Francois,
I'm trying to get a reply from the casino. I found a new Skype contact and I will let you know as soon as there is news.
Thanks Peter I have to tell you that I found a lot of solidarity for the disbelief of the matter especially in social and media, I think that the BETMASTER summit should reflect and think well about what it is doing because it is not finding sympathies, among other things, I remember who have unjustly accused me of defrauding them and still have not proven their reasons (because they can't do it) let's go on THANK YOU again PETER
You will find in your email all the addresses that have been contacted regarding my situation you will be immediately informed who will write and what hello
Hi Francois,
I was told somebody else would get in touch with me. I will let you know when they do.
Dear Casino Guru Team,
Apologies for the long reply time.
We conducted an investigation, taking into account the client base of our partners. We found a player that indeed played and won big amounts. There were no winnings and account balances of 97 thousand - this information is not correct.
The player, during his lifetime, successfully withdrew around 30 thousand euro. Due to breaching the casino rules and after the player withdrew all remaining balance, the account was blocked.
Regards,
Betmaster Casino
Yet another lie .... declare false because I have not received about 30 thousand euros in winnings but 13 thousand euros which are also traceable (if you don't know) because they are made by your company REINVENT LTD therefore justifiable as the payments that I made to you of about 20 thousand euros (always traceable are bank transactions if you don't know it or pretend to know it) and in any case my balance on closing the account of 97 thousand euros with a withdrawal transaction already carried out of 4 thousand euros which you then canceled, therefore the balance was 101 thousand euros. Then being sure of your reason instead of communicating anonymously why not respond to emails, if you consider yourself a serious company that poses some doubts to me, come out into the open as I am doing by DEMONSTRATING not with words but with deeds. Casino guru is in possession of the documentation and will ascertain how those who have legal jurisdiction because dear casino betmaster you have to show and I repeat SHOW because you have closed my gaming account and defamed me WAITING TO KNOW THE MANAGER WHO HAS WRITTEN FOR CASINO BETMASTER (so we compare with the facts not with the words I BRING TESTS YOU ONLY CHIACCHERE) see you in court
CASINO BETMASTER READ THE REVIEWS ON THE NETWORK THAT THE CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE USED ....... OF YOUR SERVICE HAVE MADE ..... IT SEEMS THAT YOU EASILY CLOSE THE GAME ACCOUNTS AND DO NOT PAY THE WINNINGS (I can prove it)
You have to give 7000 euros, you closed the account and you are gone
Dear Francois,
Thank you for the emails and replies. However, I have to ask you again for any evidence you actually won the aforementioned €97000. The casino provided us with proof you never reached this amount. Unless you send me a screenshot or game history to prove otherwise, I'm afraid, I won't be able to help you.
the BETMASTER casino must also provide evidence because it has closed the account, the BETMASTER casino if it reopens the account and shows the balance I do not need to prove anything, they record the bets so they are the ones to demonstrate, I have the screen of when I got to 47 thousand euros I didn't think I had to photograph each game however they will provide the evidence and justifications for what they did to the competent authority I remain increasingly convinced that the BETMASTEB company accuses, blocks the game accounts, so you provide the
proves that I had 47 thousand in my account
euro and until they decide to pay me the win I will not stop and we will not stop at anything then show them that I have lost the 47 thousand euro that I am attaching to you in the photo and if they do not prove it I will wait for a certain and documented answer otherwise if not
they can do it I have to find the account opened with a balance of 47 thousand
EUR. From now with the company BETMASTER the criminal proceedings are opened with me and with others who have not paid Thanks Peter if you can let him know my intentions and if they have the "BALLS" and believe the professions they contacted me since all the emails that I have sent me and my lawyers have always pretended not to read WAITING ANSWER AND TESTS THANKS
Here are the 47 thousand euros that I was winning showed that I lost them if they can't I want this money which is my right, I don't have a photo of the 97 thousand euros because they closed my account without warning (they are professionals in the sector)
I WILL FIGHT FOR BETMASTER TO PAY ME AND ALL OTHER CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE BEEN BLOCKED WITHOUT REASON BECAUSE THE REQUEST FOR JUSTIFICATIONS HAVE NEVER GIVEN ME ........ Peter please can you give me the betmaster contact? thanks
So I repeat Dear Peter of a CASINO BETMASTER TO SHOW THAT I LOSE THE 47 THOUSAND EURO OTHERWISE I WANT THE ACCOUNT REOPENED WITH SUCH AMOUNT unfortunately this situation is taking a media publicity that BETMASTER did well to reassess his situation Thanks again Peter
Sorry Peter also refer to your contact of BETMASTER THAT BEFORE I BLOCKED MY ACCOUNT I MADE A REQUEST OF 4 WITHDRAWALS OF 1000 EUROS EVERYONE, THEY ARE NOT EVEN THOSE? Because the balance was 97 thousand euros + the 4 who did not give it to me. THEREFORE REFER TO YOUR CONTACT THAT I ALSO WANT THE 4 THOUSAND EURO BELOW.
Message that they have not made the withdrawal of 4 thousand euros that I asked before they closed my account
THEREFORE PETER AND CASINÓGURU DO NOT TRUST TOO MUCH THESE CHARACTERS YOU CAN MAKE THE CASINO REPRESENTATIVE TALK TO MY LAWYERS AND TECHNICIANS OF THE SECTOR FOR YOU TO DEMONSTRATE AND CONFIRM WHAT HE WRITTEN
Dear Francois,
We asked the casino for more detailed information about your case. We received evidence suggesting that you gradually played your balance down to €56 and that this amount was recently sent to you. If this is the case, I'm afraid, there is nothing we can do to help you. Since you don't have any further evidence supporting your claims, we will have to close this complaint in favor of the casino. However, if you are still convinced the truth is on your side, I recommend you to submit a complaint with the Curacao Gaming Authority (complaints@curacao-egaming.com) as they have better tools to find out the truth than us. I wish I could be of more help.
Best regards,
Peter