The couple from Germany has used one bank account to deposit funds. Afterwards, the wife had her winnings confiscated. The issue was resolved, the player received her winnings.
The couple from Germany has used one bank account to deposit funds. Afterwards, the wife had her winnings confiscated. The issue was resolved, the player received her winnings.
The couple from Germany has used one bank account to deposit funds. Afterwards, the wife had her winnings confiscated. The issue was resolved, the player received her winnings.
Here is a summary:
I recently created an account through Westcasino.
My bank account was already used by my husband's account
(-> the deposits and withdrawals were often made without problems via my bank account)
After a while, the deposit option "immediate transfer" was blocked
At the time we didn't know why the option was blocked on my husband's account.
After we had contact with a customer advisor and asked why the payment option is blocked, he explained to us that it is due to the deposits made via my bank details (wife) - Lt. The terms and conditions is also right.
We then explicitly asked whether I could create an account and use my bank details -> the consultant confirmed that it would of course be possible
After confirmation from the customer advisor, I create an account
After several deposits that worked without problems, I won and made a payment of € 2,000 that I wanted to withdraw.
After a few days I received the email from westcasino that the profit would be invalid because the bank details were used "several times".
(>> if we received this email on winnings that were won through my husband's account, we would be able to understand that as the deposits were made through my bank account and that the payment option "immediate transfer" is blocked.
But we cannot understand that I receive such an email via my account - this is also Lt. the terms and conditions not right! )
We have read the terms and conditions, the profits are invalid for so-called "double accounts".
In the case of deposits from third parties (friends, family, spouse, etc.), the winnings are invalid and the deposits must be repaid to the account holder.
In my case, it is not a third and not a double account.
Lt. the terms and conditions, it is not lawful that westcasino see and retain the winnings I have paid in from my bank and thereby achieved!
Even according to the terms and conditions, Westcasino would have to repay all amounts paid by my husband via my bank details.
Contact via the chat function has also been made without waiting for a response from westcasino for days.
Unfortunately I don't know what else I can do ... I just don't understand it.
Hier eine Zusammenfassung :
Ich habe vor kurzem über Westcasino ein Account erstellt.
Meine Bankverbindung wurde bereits über den Account von meinem Mann genutzt
( —> die Einzahlung und die Auszahlungen erfolgten des Öfteren ohne Probleme über das Bankkonto von mir )
Nach einiger Zeit wurde die Einzahlungsoption „sofort Überweisung" gesperrt
Wir wussten zu dem Zeitpunkt nicht, warum die Option gesperrt wurde auf dem Account von meinem Mann.
Nachdem wir Kontakt mit einem Kundenberater hatten und nachfragten weshalb die Zahlungsoption gesperrt ist hat er uns aufgeklärt, dass es an den Einzahlungen liegt die über meine Bankverbindung ( Ehefrau ) getätigt wurden - Lt. Den AGBs ist das auch rechtens richtig.
Daraufhin haben Wir explizit danach gefragt, ob ich, mir ein Account erstellen kann und meine Bankverbindung nutzen kann -> dies bestätigte der Berater , dass es selbstverständlich möglich wäre
Nach der Bestätigung des Kundenberaters erstelle ich mir ein Account
Nach öfteren Einzahlungen die auch ohne Probleme funktionierten gewann ich und tätigte eine Auszahlung in Höhe von 2.000€ die ich auszahlen wollte.
Nach ein paar Tagen erhielt ich die email von westcasino, dass der Gewinn ungültig wäre weil die Bankverbindung „mehrfach" genutzt wurde.
( >> wenn wir diese email erhalten würden bei gewinnen die über das Konto von meinem Mann gewonnen wurden, Würden wir das nachvollziehen können da die Einzahlungen über mein Bankkonto getätigt wurden und das die Zahlungsoption „sofort Überweisung" gesperrt wird.
Aber das ich über mein Account so eine Mail erhalte können wir nicht nachvollziehen - dies ist auch Lt. den AGB‘s nicht rechtens! )
Wir haben uns die AGB‘s durchgelesen, bei sogenannten „Doppelkonten" sind die Gewinne ungültig.
Bei Einzahlungen von dritten ( Freunde, Familie, Ehepartner, etc. ) Bankverbindungen sind die Gewinne ungültig und die Einzahlungen müssen an den Kontoinhaber zurückgezahlt werden.
Es handelt sich in meinem Fall nicht um dritte und nicht um ein Doppelkonto.
Lt. den AGB‘s ist es nicht rechtens, dass westcasino die von mir von meiner Bank eingezahlten und dadurch erzielten Gewinne als ungültig sehen und einbehalten!
Auch nach den AGB‘s müsste mir Westcasino alle von meinem Mann über meine Bankverbindung eingezahlten Beträge zurückzahlen.
Auch Kontakt über die Chatfunktion ist ohne erfolgt warte seit Tagen auf eine Rückmeldung von westcasino.
Leider weiß ich nicht was ich noch machen kann ... ich verstehe es einfach nicht.
Dear Sega,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Whose name is on the bank account? Is it yours or your husband’s? Is it a joint account? Furthermore, please could you forward me a confirmation from the agent where he has stated that you could open an account, as well as the explanation from the casino why your winnings have been voided. My email address is petronela.k@casino.guru. Hopefully, we will be able to help you with this matter as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
Dear Sega,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Whose name is on the bank account? Is it yours or your husband’s? Is it a joint account? Furthermore, please could you forward me a confirmation from the agent where he has stated that you could open an account, as well as the explanation from the casino why your winnings have been voided. My email address is petronela.k@casino.guru. Hopefully, we will be able to help you with this matter as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
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Thank you very much Sega for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Thank you very much Sega for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Hi Gamze,
I just wanted to let you know that I am currently examining your case and will reply as soon as possible.
Hi Gamze,
I just wanted to let you know that I am currently examining your case and will reply as soon as possible.
Hello Peter - thank you!
As already written in the previous email, Petronela forwarded emails - did the emails reach you? (the mail from Westcasino and the mails I wrote to westcasino but received no response)
Hallo Peter - danke dir !
wie bereits in der vorherigen Mail geschrieben, habe Petronela emails weitergeleitet - sind die Mails bei euch angekommen ? ( die Mail von Westcasino und die mails die ich an westcasino geschrieben habe aber keine Antwort erhalten habe )
Yes Gamze, we received all the emails, thank you.
Yes Gamze, we received all the emails, thank you.
Hi Gamze,
I examined your case and will now contact the casino. We'll see what can be done here.
Hi Gamze,
I examined your case and will now contact the casino. We'll see what can be done here.
Hi Gamze,
My opinion is quite simple. Players should never use bank accounts to deposit money in casino that don't belong to them. You should always have one casino account and one bank account in your name you use to deposit and withdraw money to and from the casino. This simple rule would save the players a lot of trouble. However, if the casino support told you it was alright to open an account and use the aforementioned bank account to deposit money, you should definitely get paid. I already contacted the casino rep, but haven't received any reply yet. You will be notified as soon as there is news.
Hi Gamze,
My opinion is quite simple. Players should never use bank accounts to deposit money in casino that don't belong to them. You should always have one casino account and one bank account in your name you use to deposit and withdraw money to and from the casino. This simple rule would save the players a lot of trouble. However, if the casino support told you it was alright to open an account and use the aforementioned bank account to deposit money, you should definitely get paid. I already contacted the casino rep, but haven't received any reply yet. You will be notified as soon as there is news.
Hi Peter,
yes you are right - you should really only use one bank account it is also our mistake that we used two bank accounts we did not read the terms and conditions at the time.
but it worked for a long time both deposits and withdrawals were posted to both bank accounts. Sometime when they then blocked my husband's immediate deposit - we just contacted the customer advisor and asked why. Only then were we informed. But as I said, we asked explicitly whether it would be possible for me to create my own account and then use my bank details - this has been confirmed.
my husband also received an email from westcasino saying that he can use his bank details again but is no longer allowed to deposit via my bank account.
If they had canceled my husband's profits back then Because the deposits were made through my bank details I would understand. But that my winnings have been canceled is not legal according to the terms and conditions of westcasino.
Thank you for your efforts
Greetings Gamze
Hallo Peter,
ja du hast recht - man sollte wirklich nur eine Bankverbindung nutzen es ist auch unser Fehler, dass wir zwei Bankverbindung genutzt haben wir haben die AGBs zu dem Zeitpunkt nicht gelesen.
aber es hat lange funktioniert sowohl Einzahlungen und Auszahlungen wurden auf beide Bankkonten verbucht. Irgendwann als sie dann die sofort einzahlung bei meinem Mann gesperrt haben - haben wir eben den Kundenberater kontaktieren und gefragt warum. Erst dann wurden wir aufgeklärt. Aber wie gesagt, wir haben explizit danach gefragt ob es möglich wäre, dass ich mir ein eigenes Account erstelle und meine Bankverbindung dann nutzen kann - dies wurde ja bestätigt.
mein Mann hat auch eine Mail von westcasino erhalten, dass er seine Bankverbindung wieder nutzen kann aber nicht mehr über mein Bankkonto einzahlen darf.
Wenn sie damals Gewinne von meinem Mann annulliert hätten Weil die Einzahlungen über meine Bankverbindung erfolgten würde ich es verstehen. Aber das meine Gewinne annulliert wurden ist lt. Den AGBs von westcasino nicht rechtens.
danke für deine Bemühungen
Grüße Gamze
We would like to ask the West Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may affect its rating.
We would like to ask the West Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may affect its rating.
well then i am just as far as at the beginning .. with me westcasino does not react to mails either. It is a bottomless cheek from westcasino ..!
can't they do that? Just don't reply to emails.
na dann bin ich ja genauso weiter wie am Anfang.. bei mir reagiert westcasino auch nicht auf Mails. Es ist eine bodenlose Frechheit von westcasino..!
das können die doch nicht machen ? Einfach auf Emails nicht antworten.
Hello Guru Admin,
I was equally informed of this and have been asked to give an update. The Finance Team will be resolving the case with the user shortly and she will be contacted.
Thank you for your assistance.
Best Regards,
Ed Blake
Hello Guru Admin,
I was equally informed of this and have been asked to give an update. The Finance Team will be resolving the case with the user shortly and she will be contacted.
Thank you for your assistance.
Best Regards,
Ed Blake
Hi Gamze,
That's good news. Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution center. I'm glad to hear that your issue got resolved. I will now mark it as 'resolved' in our system. Thanks for cooperation and don’t hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
Best regards,
Peter
Hi Gamze,
That's good news. Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution center. I'm glad to hear that your issue got resolved. I will now mark it as 'resolved' in our system. Thanks for cooperation and don’t hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
Best regards,
Peter
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