The player from Israel recounted multiple instances of game malfunctions during his time on a casino's Crash Game. Despite dealing with unresponsive buttons and website lag, he had managed to place bets, but lost around $5,000 over two years due to these glitches. The player's communications with the casino's support had not resolved the issue, and he refuted their suggestions of VPN use or rate limiting as the cause of the problems. After reviewing the evidence provided by the player, we confirmed that the casino had acknowledged a glitch in one of the rounds and promised a refund. However, we could not assist with past glitches as they should have been reported immediately. Consequently, the complaint was rejected.
Stake Casino - Player reports faulty game operation and losses.
Amount: $5,000
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6 months ago
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6 months ago
Hello,
I am writing to express my extreme dissatisfaction with the recent experience I had while playing the Crash Game on your casino platform. The game malfunctioned, causing me to lose my bet, and the customer support I received was far from satisfactory.
Basically, the game/website lagged a bit on the bet id: casino:185174900817
Therefore, the button turned unclickable (after 1.3x-1.4x) so I refreshed the page (which happens frequently, even though, this is extremely unfair for such a live and sensitive game).
It took some time to load, so I opened my iPhone and once I did that, the round ended and the bet was auto-lost.
I was not using a VPN, my internet connection is fast.
Moreover, the next round started actually about 10 seconds later as a delay. Which is purely enough evidence that the game had lagged. I've been on the platform for over 2 years and I know how it works, also have had these things happen many times and if I would sum up my losses due to these bets, it would be over 5,000 USD over the period of 2 years.
For evidence, I bring up a screenshot called "stake-my-bet" which shows most if not all players who actually managed to cash out have their cashout at 2x - 5x - 3x (automated cashout). And since I don't like that automated cashout I always put high numbers to manually cashout. It's important to note that MANY have lost this round, even though it was a high multiplier (6.16x) so most players would cashout between 1.5x to 3x.
I also bring up a screenshot called "stake-similar-bet" which was about 20 games later on Crash with a very similar crash point multiplier, at 6.18x. There you can see how many players (most of them) have the cashout at random multipliers, like; 2.06x - 3.06x - 2.4x - 2.94x - 4.76x.
Reference game id: CrashGame: c9da86ab-f915-4fac-a3d4-69fa8d3943cd
This requires a very simple logic to understand that it was the site's fault and I am fed up with the support always having the same generic replies of VPN, rate limit, device cache, etc... Again, was not using a VPN, and I have a good connection, way enough for Crash to be smooth.
The technical team said that they checked the log and found no fault. However, I do claim that it was. Anyone who plays Crash regularly knows that, and this rare evidence is way more than enough of a proof.
Here's the chat log that outlines the issues I encountered:
* PLEASE NOTE: Chat log is summed by ChatGPT to organize things since they don't have the option the save or send to email.
User (Djordje profile):
"Crash lagged and I couldn't cash out, checked on my phone, same thing. It also took about 10 more seconds to start the next round, so it's definitely not my internet. What do we do?"
Casino Support (Djordje profile):
Explained the possibility of rate limiting due to VPN or excessive betting.
User (Djordje profile):
Expressed frustration, mentioned using a mobile phone on a 4G network, and the delay in the round starting.
Casino Support (Djordje profile):
Stated the possibility of rate limiting with Safari and Apple devices, advising against VPN use and providing some tips to avoid rate limiting.
User (Djordje profile):
Denied using a VPN and clarified that their internet connection was good.
User (Djordje profile):
Asked for a refund or bet win, considering the unusual delay in the round.
Casino Support (Djordje profile):
Explained that refunds for lost bets are not possible due to auto cashout settings and provided the multiplier for the round in question.
User (Djordje profile):
Mentioned other players not cashing out at that multiplier and questioned the situation.
User (Luka profile):
Took over the conversation, confirming no issues with the crash round.
User (Luka profile):
Shared another example of a recent crash at a similar multiplier, suggesting that most players don't cash out at set numbers.
User (Luka profile):
Requested a more in-depth explanation.
User (Luka profile):
Asked about saving the chat log or exporting it for a complaint.
Casino Support (Luka profile):
Explained that the chat remains accessible in their system.
User (Luka profile):
Requested a way to export the chat log for attaching it to a complaint.
Casino Support (Luka profile):
Offered to send a screenshot of the chat messages as a way to save them.
--- End of summed up chatlog ---
As a long-time user of your platform, I am deeply disappointed with the response I received. The delay in the game round starting and the loss of my bet was clearly beyond my control, and the suggestion of rate limiting due to VPN use, which I did not use, is highly inaccurate.
I look forward to a prompt and reasonable resolution of this matter.
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6 months ago
Dear realpashy,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Could you please forward any supporting evidence, such as screenshots or videos, possibly your game history with the exact time of the incident along with any relevant communication to veronika.l@casino.guru? Have you stopped playing right after the incident?
Please understand that without any supporting evidence, we can’t proceed further with this case as it would be close to impossible to confront the casino.
Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you in advance for your understanding.
Best regards,
Veronika
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6 months ago
Hello Veronika,
a detailed email has been sent to you containing information and some evidence that I can provide as a player.
Kindly let me know if anything else is needed.
Cheers,
Joubran
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6 months ago
Of course, even more proof has been sent to your email couple of hours ago.
Would highly appreciate it if you can refrain from using the full 7 days period and replying last minutes to refresh the timer...Kinda feel left behind, especially when in the original compliant post, it is obvious that I have tried to solve this directly with Stake first (which is the casino and the game developer/provider).
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6 months ago
Thank you for providing me with additional evidence.
From the communication between you and the casino, it is clear that the technical support admitted the glitch on their part, and the money for the glitchy round will be returned to you. Have you received the refund yet, or are you still waiting for it?
Regarding the glitches you experienced with the casino in the past, I am afraid that we will not be able to assist you. Usually, we recommend players contact the casino immediately after a bug occurs, so that the issue may be solved quickly and effectively. If you keep experiencing unwanted software glitches, it may be advisable to think about a different platform to gamble at.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
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