The player from Italy is experiencing difficulties verifying the account. Casino detected the use of VPN and they closed player's account according to their policy. We are rejecting this case as unjustified.
Caution,
having your account verified is impossible. A week after sending the requested documents, they do not verify my bill and say they have not received anything. I resend and they don't want to give me receipt of the documents.
In doing so, withdrawing is impossible.
Fraud
I just have to contact aams to black out the site.
UPDATE
The documents I sent are not good. They therefore refuse to have your account verified to withdraw your winnings.
Dear Andrea,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please understand that KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. None of the serious and licensed casinos takes KYC lightly.
Have you been advised what specifically seems to be a problem in verifying your account?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
Dear Andrea,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to provide the required information in the given time frame, we will reject your complaint.
I sent the documents they requested from me in chat;
Copy of my passport.
Recent bank statement.
Copy of the card used for the deposit
Nevertheless, they took time not to verify the account making it impossible for me to withdraw my winnings.
the documents I emailed I also sent them in chat and the operator told me they were fine and would be accepted within 3 working days.
I fully understand your frustration, Andrea. I will set the timer for additional 5 days and if there’s no development by Monday, we will intervene. Let’s stay positive and wait for the good news regarding your verification. Thank you in advance for your patience.
Hello Andrea,
Have there been any developments since our last conversation?
Thank you very much, Andrea, for your reply. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Viliam who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Hello Andrea,
I looked at your complaint and will do my best to help you. I would like to invite Librabet Casino into this conversation. Can you specify where is the problem with the player’s verification process, please?
They do not accept my proof of residence (which was previously accepted in chat)
My proof is a bank statement in my name less than a month old.
Dear CasinoGuru,
Thank you for getting in touch with us regarding this case.
We would like to provide a bit more details, which will allow you to get a clear understanding of what has happened.
The player has failed to pass the standard KYC procedure, due to not providing us with an official and valid document as proof of address.
Without such proof - the game account did not pass the KYC procedure and based on this, his pending withdrawals were not processed from our side.
Furthermore, please note that the game account has been closed without a reopening option due to failing to pass the KYC procedure and in accordance with our General T&C:
5.1 You must provide us with all information that we may request in order to manage your account, verify your identity or the source of the funds deposited to your account. This includes (but is not limited to) properly certified ID, proof of residence, proof of ownership and transaction histories of the payment methods used for the period of up to 12 (twelve) months, including bank or credit/debit card statements etc. You must provide these documents and information within 10 (ten) days after the request is made. We reserve the right to withhold payment and/or suspend your account until you provide the documents and information we requested, and to permanently close your account if you fail to do so in time.
We would like to clarify that there are no pending withdrawals or balance on the game account upon closure.
In case you need more details or evidence, we remain available to provide such for your internal investigation.
Best regards,
LibraBet Administration
Librabet's answer is totally false and without foundation.
The official document is the bank statement. Which is more than enough proof of address.
This casino does not even have a license to operate in Italy. Precisely in this regard I have already contacted AAMS to provide for the blackout.
Dear Casino,
thanks for an explanation but I would like to ask you to send me the mentioned document to my email: viliam.v@casino.guru. Why is that document not valid and official proof of address?
Dear CasinoGuru,
Please, kindly note that we cannot share the document due to data policy and the player can provide it directly to you if he finds it appropriate for his claim.
We can provide further clarification regarding the case and that the player has not provided us with a bank statement.
The player provided us with a file from his Revolut account, which cannot be accepted by our KYC team, due to the fact that all Revolut users manually enter themselves their address and are free to change it at any time.
Therefore, such a file cannot serve as proof of address.
This document is not a bank statement and cannot be proof of address of any client for the above reason.
Revolut does not have the weight of an official bank statement from a bank, where the address of the client has been verified by the bank.
Kind regards,
LibraBet Administration
This answer is totally devoid of logical sense.
First of all I sent two proofs of residence, secondly Revolut is a bank operating with a European license. It is in effect a bank.
Also I do not understand how this casino can operate in Italy having no Italian AAMS license.
I enclose the response from the customer service:
Dear Casino,
Revolut is an official financial technology company that offers banking services. I don't see any reason why you can't accept it as valid proof of address. People can change their data on documents at any time at every official document. People moves, people are renting flats, houses, etc.
Anyway, suggest some other document for the player's verification of address and let us know in the comment.
Dear CasinoGuru,
We fully agree that people can change their address, however, we need official proof of address to confirm the new address of the player, fully according to standard KYC procedures.
The whole thing is that the Revolut statement does not have the value of an official bank statement, due to the fact that the bank verifies your new address and confirms it, whereas in Revolut you can manually change your address and nobody comes to officially verify this.
In other words, now you can have a statement with one address and once you move to the next casino site have a different one stated in your Revolut profile.
Please, note that we have offered alternatives to the player once we received the Revolut statement.
First, on the 31st of December, we sent an email in his native Italian asking for another document that can prove his address.
The player returned us an email that he does not have a utility bill in his name and we again offered alternatives via email in his native Italian: such as any utility bill in his name, rental agreement, or an official bank statement.
Both evidence attached to this reply.
Furthermore, we would like to note that there are no pending withdrawals or active balance on the game account, which will remain closed due to failed KYC procedure, along with suspicion of potentially fraudulent activity, due to the fact that it was detected that the player has been using VPN while using our service, which additionally raises the suspicions on the refusal to be provided with an official proof of address that has been verified by an institution.
In addition, the player has made a deposit using Cryptocurrency, which raises the level of risk for us.
Along with a refusal to be provided with the requested for KYC procedure documents, we have acted in accordance with the following T&C stated on our site:
9.4 Should we arrive at a reasonable suspicion that you have engaged in fraud, any illegal or improper activity, or have otherwise breached the Terms, we reserve the right to take any number of the following action, at our sole and absolute discretion, with or without notice;
9.4.1 immediately block your account and suspend your access to the Website and/or its services, suspend all pending withdrawal requests and other payments to you for the period of investigation;
9.4.2 permanently close your account with the Website and all other partner websites on our platform and deny any future use of the Website and the partner websites;
We hope this will now fully clarify the current case for all parties involved.
Best regards,
LibraBet Administration
Librabet continues to say inaccuracies. Or rather, they lie knowing they are lying.
I made deposits using both the Revolut card and using Bitcoin. This is allowed by the casino. In fact I also sent a copy of the card as requested by them.
I would like to clarify one thing; Can an Italian player play on librabet yes or no?
Because today AAMS told me that they have neither license nor the right to accept Italian players.
This makes Librabet an illegal casino.
Suffice it to see the reviews on trustpilot.
Dear Casino,
please provide me relevant evidence that shows that player has been using VPN to my email mentioned above.
Dear Andrea,
Casino provided me evidence that shows fraudulent behavior, you were using VPN and that's the reason why they blocked your account. You also lost your real money balance in the meantime and your account was 0 at the time of closing the account.
Unfortunately, after gathering all the necessary information we are rejecting this complaint as unjustified. Sorry, we were not able to help you with this one, but please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help.