Hi Veronika,
Yes, my phone number is registered in my name. Sending an SMS verification, for example, is standard practice. However, requesting proof of ownership is completely irrelevant for any ID verification purposes or even for anti-money laundering checks. At this point, there can be no doubt about my ID, as it has been triple-confirmed through extensive checks. I would like to understand the relevance of this request, but they refuse to reply.
As I mentioned before, the ownership of one phone line or service has nothing to do with reasonable verification anymore. It just simply doesn't make any difference. There is nothing in their terms that limits the accepted ownership possibilities of the players' registered phone numbers. That's the key point. Their customer service response was essentially: "By our terms, we can ask for anything, and we don’t need to explain the reason behind any request."
Do they really have this right? If so, we should categorize online casinos into two groups: those with good business practices and rogue casinos that, for example, have no real intention of paying players’ withdrawals.
For instance, if you go to buy a drink at your local store and the cashier says, "Sorry, but we can only sell this bottle to you if you first show me that your phone number is registered in your name," I believe I have the right to question why they are asking for such unexpected personal information. It seems irrelevant to me.
The main issue here is their lack of explanation. I understand, for example, that an investment bank would require anti-money laundering checks. It’s hypocritical that online casinos take deposits without any controls while coupling extensive KYC and money laundering checks only to withdrawals. This business practice is unhealthy, as it opens the door to potentially accepting "dirty" money for them and they can also arbitrarily complicate the withdrawal process for honest players just out of their whim.
As I understand it, their terms and conditions might even allow them to request medical reports, private passwords, children’s Social Security numbers, and photos—essentially _anything_ they choose, and tie that information to withdrawal approvals. Who is regulating and controlling this? That's why I'm here.
GoSpin never informed me that the request for a salary slip and tax return was related to anti-money laundering regulations. I believed this was merely for ID verification.
This entire ID check started off on the wrong foot due to their dishonesty. I have proof of everything (I can send the email privately if needed):
I received this email on August 19:
"We need you to provide one more item that qualifies as Proof of Identity. This could be one of the following:
- Identity Card
- Passport
Also, please provide the following:
- A photo of yourself holding a previously provided driver’s license next to your face with all your personal details clearly visible, along with a sheet of paper with the following digits written by another hand: 5436."
I later discovered that this was outright misleading, as I had already passed this check, and my account was marked as "Verified." However, on September 2, I received this email:
"In order for you to proceed with the additional verification procedure, please record a short self-identification video with your document (passport). Please prepare your document and a piece of paper with the handwritten date of recording and our product's name."
So, once you start being dishonest and do different things than you say, we must question your credibility and trustworthiness. My suspicions began to rise at this point; it was not very professional.
And remember the third request email that followed:
"For the final step of the verification, please provide us with the following:
1. Proof of ownership of your phone number listed in your profile
2. An official 2023 tax return and salary slip for the 2024 period
3. A notarized passport."
The first extra request literally states: "We need you to provide one more item..."—it says *one*!
Regarding the next point:
Requiring a salary slip for the 2024 period is also irrelevant. Many people, from the very wealthy to the very poor, do not receive salary slips, and this request should not be tied to the ability to withdraw funds from their platform. Many people for example get their living from property sales, dividends, some from subsidies, pention, whatever.
As for the tax return, I am not fundamentally against sending specific documents. However, I first requested explanations from them. Intuitively, I also question what relevance sending tax returns has.
If this information is truly important, I would like to hear or see it from the regulatory authority with a good explanation. GoSpin casino refuses to communicate and emphasizes their right to ask anything without providing explanations.
Hi Veronika,
Yes, my phone number is registered in my name. Sending an SMS verification, for example, is standard practice. However, requesting proof of ownership is completely irrelevant for any ID verification purposes or even for anti-money laundering checks. At this point, there can be no doubt about my ID, as it has been triple-confirmed through extensive checks. I would like to understand the relevance of this request, but they refuse to reply.
As I mentioned before, the ownership of one phone line or service has nothing to do with reasonable verification anymore. It just simply doesn't make any difference. There is nothing in their terms that limits the accepted ownership possibilities of the players' registered phone numbers. That's the key point. Their customer service response was essentially: "By our terms, we can ask for anything, and we don’t need to explain the reason behind any request."
Do they really have this right? If so, we should categorize online casinos into two groups: those with good business practices and rogue casinos that, for example, have no real intention of paying players’ withdrawals.
For instance, if you go to buy a drink at your local store and the cashier says, "Sorry, but we can only sell this bottle to you if you first show me that your phone number is registered in your name," I believe I have the right to question why they are asking for such unexpected personal information. It seems irrelevant to me.
The main issue here is their lack of explanation. I understand, for example, that an investment bank would require anti-money laundering checks. It’s hypocritical that online casinos take deposits without any controls while coupling extensive KYC and money laundering checks only to withdrawals. This business practice is unhealthy, as it opens the door to potentially accepting "dirty" money for them and they can also arbitrarily complicate the withdrawal process for honest players just out of their whim.
As I understand it, their terms and conditions might even allow them to request medical reports, private passwords, children’s Social Security numbers, and photos—essentially _anything_ they choose, and tie that information to withdrawal approvals. Who is regulating and controlling this? That's why I'm here.
GoSpin never informed me that the request for a salary slip and tax return was related to anti-money laundering regulations. I believed this was merely for ID verification.
This entire ID check started off on the wrong foot due to their dishonesty. I have proof of everything (I can send the email privately if needed):
I received this email on August 19:
"We need you to provide one more item that qualifies as Proof of Identity. This could be one of the following:
- Identity Card
- Passport
Also, please provide the following:
- A photo of yourself holding a previously provided driver’s license next to your face with all your personal details clearly visible, along with a sheet of paper with the following digits written by another hand: 5436."
I later discovered that this was outright misleading, as I had already passed this check, and my account was marked as "Verified." However, on September 2, I received this email:
"In order for you to proceed with the additional verification procedure, please record a short self-identification video with your document (passport). Please prepare your document and a piece of paper with the handwritten date of recording and our product's name."
So, once you start being dishonest and do different things than you say, we must question your credibility and trustworthiness. My suspicions began to rise at this point; it was not very professional.
And remember the third request email that followed:
"For the final step of the verification, please provide us with the following:
1. Proof of ownership of your phone number listed in your profile
2. An official 2023 tax return and salary slip for the 2024 period
3. A notarized passport."
The first extra request literally states: "We need you to provide one more item..."—it says *one*!
Regarding the next point:
Requiring a salary slip for the 2024 period is also irrelevant. Many people, from the very wealthy to the very poor, do not receive salary slips, and this request should not be tied to the ability to withdraw funds from their platform. Many people for example get their living from property sales, dividends, some from subsidies, pention, whatever.
As for the tax return, I am not fundamentally against sending specific documents. However, I first requested explanations from them. Intuitively, I also question what relevance sending tax returns has.
If this information is truly important, I would like to hear or see it from the regulatory authority with a good explanation. GoSpin casino refuses to communicate and emphasizes their right to ask anything without providing explanations.