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Gama Casino - Player requests a partial refund.

Amount: €1,800

Gama Casino
Safety Index:Very high
Submitted: 10 Jul 2023 | Resolved : 07 Aug 2023
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Case closed

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Case summary

1 year ago

The player from Austria requested a permanent block of his account from Gama Casino but was allowed to unlock their account, contrary to their initial request. After reopening, the player lost about €1,900 and is now seeking a refund of €1,800. The casino agreed to pay the player a refund. The player confirmed it was received.

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1 year ago
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I got banned from Gama. I wrote in the chat that I wanted a lock "with no option to reopen". Even when I was repeatedly asked in the chat whether I would agree to a 1-month ban, I said no and wrote that I would like a permanent ban without being able to open my account again.


After a few days I am back in the chat and was able to unlock my block with just a single email to support. Yes, I wrote there that I want to reopen my account. But Gama should never have allowed this as I have already had my account permanently banned with no option to reopen.


After opening my account I lost about €1,900. I don't know exactly, which is why I'm asking for €1,800 back, because I've definitely gambled away this sum.


Dear Casino Guru team. You have let me down before and I really hope that you can finally help me in this case. Gama clearly violated player protection and should never have reopened my account.


LG

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1 year ago

Dear Malaga,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your negative experience.

After checking the terms&conditions of the casino I found this:

35. RESPONSIBLE GAMING/GAMBLING
35.1 For those customers who wish to restrict their gambling, we provide a voluntary self-exclusion policy, which enables You to close Your Account or restrict Your ability to place bets or game on the Website for a minimum period of six months. Once Your Account has been self-excluded You will be unable to reactivate the Account under any circumstances until the expiry of the period chosen under this paragraph. At the expiry of the self-exclusion period You will be entitled to re-commence use of the Services by contacting support@gama.casino.

Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can better understand the situation. 

Could you please specify the reason you gave for closing your account? Would you be so kind as to forward me the account closure requests that you sent to the casino? My email address is tomas@casino.guru

Thank you very much in advance.

Best regards,

Tomas

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1 year ago
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Hello


Thank you for looking that up.


I didn't specify exactly why I want to close the account, just that I want to close it without being able to reopen my account. The support then wanted to offer me to close my account for only 1 month, which I refused and I applied for a permanent closure.


In any case, I was able to open my account again after just a few days. All I had to do was write an email to the casino that I would take responsibility for it. But as I said, the casino should never have opened the account and that's what the terms and conditions say.

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1 year ago
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Hello


I understand if you guys are busy, but can you please expedite this. Last time I waited weeks. Please solve the case as soon as possible.


Thanks.

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1 year ago

Thanks for your patience.

I would like to explain you what the difference is between closing the account and self-exclusion:

Closing an account is simple and has almost no impact - the player can reopen the account anytime, and casino has no obligation to the player.

On the other hand, self-exclusion does. If a player successfully makes a self-exclusion the casino agrees not to open this account or if yes only under particular circumstances (after the cooling off period and this cannot be done for players who are addicted/with gambling problem).

Did you indicate to the casino any gambling issues, or that youmight be loosing control of your gambling or similar issues? Did the casino indicate under what circumstances they closed your account?

Is your casino account currently accessible to you?

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Once again


I know the difference between these closures.


The fact is: I applied for a closure and literally mentioned "close my account with no option to reopen".


When I write NO OPTION, that's exactly what I mean. Support then wanted to offer me a one-month ban.

I then declined and wrote "Close my account permanently, with no option to reopen".


Honestly, the case is clear and the casino has clearly violated player protection here. If you guys are back on the casino side from Casino Guru then I'm really pissed. You should help the players and not find all kinds of reasons to defend the casino.


I also have a few questions:


  • Have you already contacted management or anyone else at Gama?
  • Are you really investigating this case, or are you again just making me wait weeks without even making a single contact with the casino?


If I block my account and specifically mention that I want a permanent closure and no option to reopen my account, then that is also a permanent closure and then there must be no option to reopen the account.

I don't have to give the casino any reasons why I want it. A permanent closure with no option to reopen is already a permanent lockdown.

And in many other casinos I blocked my account the same way and there I can't reopen my account either because these casinos take player protection seriously.


So if you choose the casino in this case, it is absolutely unfair. So, again: I implemented a permanent lockdown with no option to reopen.

Under no circumstances can the casino account be reopened. But this happened and cost me a lot of money.


I ask you to deal with this case quickly and in my favour. Because there can be no two opinions here. Gama Casino disregarded player protection out of greed. Point.

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1 year ago

Thank you for your submission!


 

We are very sorry that you faced such a situation.

Your complaint has already been referred to the relevant specialists for consideration.

Upon completion of the investigation, we will be able to formulate a result for you.

 

Kind regards Gama Casino

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1 year ago

Thanks for the reply to both parties:


Dear Malaga,

Please check our article about the complaint resolution process, so you may know at which stage we contact the casino: https://casino.guru/complaint-resolution-instructions


Dear casino representative,

Please let us know about the circumstances of the case from your perspective.

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1 year ago

We deeply regret the extensive delay experienced, but we assure you that the refund is currently being processed. We will notify in the complaint and also provide a response to the player's mail as soon as the funds are returned.

 

Best regards,

GamaCasino team.

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1 year ago

Thank you for your response.


Dear Malaga,

please let me know when the refund reaches you. I'll await your confirmation.

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1 year ago
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Hello


I haven't received any money yet, but I'll be happy to let you know as soon as the money has arrived.

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1 year ago
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Hello


No money has arrived yet. A transfer via Neteller (that was my payment method) takes a minute.


I ask the casino to make the transfer now. I don't want to wait any longer. Thanks.



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1 year ago

Thanks for the update, Malaga.


We understand that processing of refunds might take some time. Please stay patient and let us know about further development.

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What's taking so long? Support has also confirmed to me several times that the refund will be very quick and that everything is already in the last act.


All they have to do is transfer the money. Why isn't this happening and has been for days? I want to ask again to transfer the money. A transfer takes 1 minute.

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Hello casino guru


I urge you to check with the casino what is taking so long. I keep getting the same answers from the chat, saying I just have to wait for the money. On the other hand, the chat then gives funny statements that the decision has to be made first, etc.


I really have a strange feeling here and I'm asking you guys to write to the casino now and finally refund me the money.


The case has now been open for 2 weeks and for 6 days the casino has announced here that the payment will be made. I think 6 days is more than enough time to make a transfer that takes no longer than 1 minute. Please Casino Guru help me here. Thanks.

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1 year ago

I am sorry you are dissatisfied with how fast the casino processes your refund, however, in our experience refunds might take longer, in more extreme cases up to 90 days. The involvement of the casino might be limited in such a situation and be caused instead by an intermediary processor.

I'll highly appreciate your patience and please let us know when the funds reach you.


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Hello


I really don't know what games Gama is playing with me. More than 24 hours ago I was told that the money had been transferred. But I never got any money. Now the chat is telling me again that there must be some problem with the payment. Sorry, but I don't think so. What problems should there be with a transfer to Neteller? And why does the casino claim that they have already transferred the money but no money arrives to me.


They even wanted to blame it on my payment provider, which is impossible. I also wrote to Neteller who confirmed that everything is fine with them.


I told the chat to give me a transaction number and I will give it to Neteller. But nobody can give me such a transaction number. Why? Because the casino lies to me. If the money has already been transferred, then there is also a transaction number, but Gama cannot give me such a number. I feel really screwed already and I don't want to be taken for a fool anymore.


I ask you Casino Guru, tune in here at this point. What the casino is doing here is very dubious.

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Gama Casino makes one contradicting statement after another and just lies to me. At first they claimed that they had already sent the money. Then they claimed that Neteller is having problems. Neteller then replied that it was wrong and no money was sent.


The support then promised me that if I give my bank details, it will be done immediately. So I allowed myself to be persuaded to disclose my bank details so that this case could finally be resolved. Gama having trouble making a Neteller transfer gives the impression that they are having payment difficulties.


Now I'm back in the chat and the promise hasn't been kept. Now they say it will take time for the transfer to be processed even though I only gave out my bank details on the understanding that the money would then be transferred IMMEDIATELY.


I feel so ripped off by Gama Casino. Every promise is broken and I'm constantly lied to. And then they also tarnish Neteller's reputation and claim that the problem is with Neteller, which is 100% untrue.


I really hope now that I finally get my money. I'm already so upset and sick of being lied to over and over again.

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I have to write it again here. I received this response from Neteller. Here is proof that the casino is lying.


Hello xxxxxx xxxx


Thank you for contacting NETELLER.


Apologies for replying in English.


I would like to confirm your NETELLER is fully eligible to receive payouts from merchants. We are not preventing the transaction from being completed.


Transfers within the NETELLER system are instant; you should receive the funds as soon as the merchant instructs the payment.

However, merchants send funds from their sites at their own pace. Please check with the merchant to find out how long it will take.


If the issue persists, please get in touch with us once again.


Kind regards,

Martin

NETELLER team


Gama sent me this message yesterday:


Hi client!

Hello there,


We would like to inform you that earlier payment provider has sent funds to your payment method, please wait for the receipt of funds.


Best regards,

GamaCasino team.


Which was also a lie, as you can see from Neteller's reaction.



The bank transfer was also not made and Gama keeps finding new excuses that just aren't true. Now everything is delayed again. I'm really fed up.


A transfer takes 1 minute.


Please Casino Guru, tune in now. Gama's approach is absolutely not correct.





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1 year ago

thanks for your replies, Malaga.


Dear Gama Casino representative,

Could you please give us more insight into when Malaga can expect the refund to be processed and the money reaches his Neteller account?

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I have never seen a casino send a message that the money has been transferred to me and then the money doesn't arrive.


I gave my bank details to the casino a few days ago because they claimed that the money will be with me much faster then. That's the only reason I gave out my bank details.


The chat doesn't give me any helpful answers and the finance department wrote me a meaningless email that is very dubious:


"Hi client!

Hello there,


We apologize for such a long wait, thank you for providing the information for the refund. We are now waiting for a response from the payment provider to provide you with a final response.


Best regards,

GamaCasino team."



What does that mean please? Gama Casino transfers the money to their active players within 24 hours. In my case, why are they pretending to need supernatural abilities to get my money transferred?

Once again Gama has not kept the promise and now the weekend is coming when once again nothing will happen.


What's so difficult about making a transfer? Gama is using stalling tactics here and I feel so screwed.


You casino guru know how it feels to be stalled over and over again with completely dubious excuses and empty promises?


Please Casino Guru, surely you are in contact with a manager or an affiliate manager through your cooperation with Gama. Can you please find a conversation there and make sure that my money is finally transferred.


I really need the money urgently and I was already counting on the money when Gama emailed me that the money had been transferred to me. Something is wrong here and therefore I ask you to get in touch with your contacts at Gama.


All I want is for the money to finally arrive in my account. I don't want to read any more excuses. All other players also get their money paid out immediately at Gama.


I mean, it's incredibly cheeky to claim that the money went to my Neteller and then no money ever gets to me. And it wasn't until I showed the email from Neteller that the casino was lying that Gama claimed there might be some problem. what problem? How is that possible?


The chat then promised me that I would get my money IMMEDIATELY if I gave the bank details. And now the game starts all over again and I wait for the money day after day, but nothing happens. Yes, it hasn't even been transferred yet and only hear excuses that it's being worked on.

What should be worked on here, please, it is just a simple transfer and it takes 1 minute to make it.


Please Casino Guru, get in touch with your contact at Gama directly. Please.



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Gama no longer responds to any requests and the chat just says the same thing.


Casino Guru please contact an affiliate manager or manager of Gama now.


Gama lured highly sensitive data (my bank details) out of me with false promises. I was assured that I would get the money transferred immediately if I gave my bank details, but nothing happened.

Before that, it was claimed that the money was sent to Neteller, which was a lie.


A clear picture is already emerging here and Gama is acting like a casino that has fraudulent and dubious intentions.


Gama belongs on the blacklist and all players should be warned about Gama. Such an approach is unacceptable. It is a perfidious game that you send an e-mail with the payment confirmation, but this payment was never made. This is so dubious and fraudulent that you only know it from the worst casinos.

The fact that the casino then asks for sensitive data like my bank details and then doesn't keep their promise is more than just dubious.


My patience and good nature is completely at an end. I am human and I want to be treated as such. The casino's approach is absolutely inhumane and degrading and is this where players should entrust their money?


Casino Guru, please contact us directly now. As you can see, the casino no longer reports here either. So please don't waste any more time. You have contacts there, so please use them as well. Thanks.





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The casino sent me this message.


Hi client!

Hello xxxxxx,


Please be advised that a refund is in the works and at this time the funds have been successfully sent, as soon as they are received we will notify you immediately.


Best regards,

GamaCasino team.


After more than 6 days the casino only got back to me just to let me know that they need more information from me. You asked for a lot of details like my bank name, address etc. I gave you all the details and then got the above message.


I really hope that my money will arrive, I just can't quite believe it yet.

If the money doesn't arrive again, then it would be the second time the casino emailed me that the money was transferred and it wasn't correct.


Nevertheless, I ask Casino Guru to extend the time by another 7 days. If the money arrives, I will of course let you know immediately. I'll keep you up to date if and when the money comes.

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We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

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Thanks for the update, Malaga.

I'll set the timer for 7 days, awaiting news from you.

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The money is still not there. I called my bank and they confirmed that it can take a maximum of 2-3 days if it is an international transfer and that it only takes longer in very rare cases.


Today is already the 2nd day.

So if the money isn't there tomorrow, then the probability that Gama has really transferred the money is extremely reduced and then you have to ask yourself what is going on at this casino that they send me a confirmation email twice, that they transferred the money, although they never did.


Should Gama screw me over here again, Casino Guru should have severe consequences. Then the casino also lied to you, which has already confirmed that the reclaim will be carried out and then also treated me extremely inhumanely.


Sending someone fake transfer confirmations is more than shoddy. I've already invested so much time in the subject and lost so much nerve over it, annoyed me so often. Contacted Neteller, contacted my bank, etc.


It has now been 2 weeks since the casino announced that the reclaim was going through. 2 weeks!

Let's see what will be tomorrow, I fear bad things.



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1 year ago

Hello there,

 

Sorry for the long wait. Earlier, there were some difficulties with the return of funds to the player's wallet, so we requested the IBAN data that the user provided. The funds have already been successfully sent, and we are currently waiting for them to be credited.

 

Best regards,

GamaCasino team.

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That sounds all well and good, but I still haven't received any money in my bank account. It is now the 3rd day and my bank has informed me that an international transfer takes 2-3 days. Only in the very rarest of cases does it take longer than 3 days, which is exactly what my bank told me.


And after everything that has happened, I'm more than skeptical. Incidentally, my bank is also skeptical and told me that the money should already be there if it was transferred 3 days ago (which the casino confirmed to me).


This is all so annoying and dubious. At first you can't make a normal Neteller transfer, although you've already sent me a confirmation by email and now the transfer to my bank account is confirmed again and again no money arrives.


Now the weekend is coming again and again I have to hope that the money will finally come and wait until Monday. It's all so tedious and I've invested so much energy and time here for a completely simple transfer.


The casino also does not want to give me a transaction number or a transfer confirmation.


I really hope that the money will finally arrive.

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The money has now been transferred via Neteller. Thank you Casino Guru.


Unfortunately, all of this has a very pale aftertaste, since the casino itself wrote that the money had already been transferred to my bank account and that was therefore another lie.

Yesterday the money was booked into my player account and I made a normal payment, which then also arrived.

Why didn't you do it that way straight away? Why keep me waiting for 3 weeks, why lie to me twice, why send me wrong transfer confirmation twice?


Anyway, money has arrived and I'm very happy to now be permanently banned from this casino. Never again do I want to be so angry and have to be treated badly.


Thanks again to Casino Guru.

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1 year ago

Dear Malaga,

I'm glad to hear that your account was permanently blocked and your refund was processed. I will now mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. 

Thank you and Gama Casino for your cooperation.

Please do not hesitate to contact our Complaint Resolution Center if you run into issues with any online casino in the future. We are here to help.

Best regards,

Tomas

Casino.Guru

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