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We just released a new video about how slots work. Tell us what you think!

4 years ago by Maros
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4 years ago

Hello everyone.

We are always trying to spread knowledge casino games. First, we launched a video about the mathematics of games of chance (watch it on YouTube if you haven't already). Now, we focused specifically on slot machines and how they work.

We hope this video will help inexperienced players understand how slots work and why some things they may believe are just myths. And hopefully even experienced slot players will find out something they didn't know before.

Any feedback is appreciated. Leave it either here or in a comment directly on YouTube.

So, here is the new video:


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4 years ago

Great video! I like the old man and animations, this is a start i hope ,of some video series about slots, casinos and regulations.. great job

I have also couple questions

1.Providers control slots(winnings,loss,rtp), what about the fact that only players playing big hand can win jackpot or have much better chance(mentioned earlier) what is a math behind that if all spins are random?


2.What is with casinos players rank,where every casino have insight of players transaction, every play, profit they made on it.For example(i personally experience this 1000 times) if player deposit 2 times and lose, the 3rd time have more chance to win something and return some money than the last 2 times(and the other way around)..Which means 2 things,-that casinos have some kind of Funnels,and lead players who lost 2 times without withdrawal to + (%) RTP and players who already won to - RTP, or that Providers lead them.

I was thinking that's providers business, but then again this happens also if u play different games and providers and hardly can have connection with providers themselves.This is not silly talk, in my 10years of playing slots, i experienced this literally 1000 times. I hope some others can confirm.


3.Also mentioned earlier that some providers like PRAGMATIC and PLAY'n go, have questionable rtp and casino can fix them, and that they one of the worst providers to play,which i can confirm-(adding Betsoft and Netent) ,.. Which providers also can do that?

I have seen many Licenced casinos more and more promoting Pragmatic games ..


4.Can u made an article or video about Slots for new players, or players in general who don't know which slots to play ,in sense of -to chose slots that have more chance to win on START, progressive or waiting to bonus round,and games where si easy to get bonus round or scatter + games where is hard by give more.

.Im asking this because i see most people deposit and lose money playing some games that are fixed or HARD to hit bonus round or some feature, and there are slots where they can win instant hand by hand,easy + on start with low money , also considering Providers.

Also this is not just silly talk,i helped so many people by suggest them games that can help them get some + money on start and lead them to what they want to play.There are ofc demos, but if someone don't have time to spend 5 hours learning types of slots.


5.In this vid there is a high mention of situation that is well known - if someone win big do not Play that slot for some time...

This is questionable.

Also there was a word about this in forum,and someone confirms... I can confirm this only in Ground based casinos, it's kinda true, if someone win big money recently at specific machine the chances to you to win are really low. ALSO better example if someone lose big money and u sit after him your chances are big to win some money.Also experienced this 1000 times in ground based casinos,and it's a common knowledge among oldest players and people from casinos. IDK why , maybe they still running by slot per slot system (they are not merged for RTP or something...but this is a thing.

Also workers check and take a pic for every machine each,the daily in/out of money at the end of the shift.Why would they do that if they are merged ?



Anyways,whatever the case is , it's important that players have fun.

I sometimes (i don't know why) play some games even if i know that im gonna lose ,just because i like that game,and that is fine.i look at that as some sort of paying for fun, like video games or something..ofc there is always chance to win but still.

The Dopamine hits anyway 😀

4 years ago

The video is well done, no question about it, but I just don't believe the nonsense with the random number generator

How can it be that I've only got bad games at Moonlight-Princess or Rise of Olympia since April How can the princesses or gods prevent that and not allow 95% free spins.

How can it be that I have already collected over 100 bees at Wild Swarm at max level and the swarm simply does not trigger.

How can it be that I have unlocked the last 5 times in Street Magic 10-12-12-8-10 and always have wilds on reels 1, 2, 3, 5 and just get no wilds on reel 4 so that I can get more free spins.

But it doesn't matter, everything is just coincidental. It's just strange that this coincidence hardly comes into play with Streamer, but that's another topic.


It is not without reason that every player has an ID-which he is assigned-I believe that every player gets certain random number generators with his ID. In my opinion, it cannot work any other way.

As I said, your video is quite nice, but I don't think it's 100% correct - there will certainly be certain things that are correct from the point of view of the starting point, but not all of them - sry I just can't imagine. Because then it would the streamers work at all net

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4 years ago

well done video. I like the guru very much, nice character. Congratulations to your team, you do a great job.

I think everything in the video is correct, maybe a little simplified but correct. I read some comments to the video, I don't think the slots have memory of activities of single players. I think that 2 aspects have been missed fom the description of how slots work:

1.Volatility: how often do slots pay? More often they pay, lower are winnings.

2. Jackpot: The jackpot contributes to the RTP. So jackpot slots pay out less in regular wins (because part of the RTP is done by the jackpot win)

Inferno
4 years ago

Hey there. Sorry for not responding in such a long time. I will do my best now, hopefully the stuff you wrote is still relevant. 🙂

1. They don't control winning or losing in any given spin, they just control the overall chances (RTP, volatility, frequency of symbols, payouts, etc.). I think that if a game has a progressive jackpot, for example, you can get a higher chance (theoretical likelihood) of hitting it when betting more, but the result in any particular spin is still random.

2. I think that this doesn't happen and casinos don't increase the RTP for any particular player.

3. I think this is becoming quite a common practice and many providers do it. They create versions of the same game with various RTPs and then let the casino choose which version they want. It's not ideal, of course, but I would not call it "cheating" or anything like that. But the RTP has to be disclosed and easy to find, so that players know which version they are playing.

4. We are currently creating a video for beginners, but it doesn't focus on game selection. It focuses primarily on things to know before playing, choosing a casino, etc. But what you described might be a good idea for the future 🙂

5. As far as I am concerned, this is just a myth, as we explained in the video as well.

paclmaya
4 years ago

Hi paclmaya.

I am sorry about your bad experience. The truth is, even though the spins are random, unlikely things like this can happen. All games are designed to behave in certain ways, and some of the things you described might be done on purpose by the designers. For example, with the wilds on reels 1, 2, 3, 5, but no wilds on reel 4... The designers might have purposely put very few wilds onto the 4th reel, so that it's less likely that you get more free spins. I am not saying it's true (I don't know the game nor the specifics of how it was designed), I am just saying that it might possibly be the case.

Not sure about the streamers, but I have to say that it might be difficult to judge based on their videos, because those are often "win compilations", where you see all the big wins, but you don't see the losses between them.

Maros

Userrob
4 years ago

Thanks a lot! We do our best with the videos and I am glad you liked them. 🙂

Both points you made are correct, but we didn't want to go so deep in this video. It's already pretty long and complicated. Besides, we also have a video about games of chance in general, where we discuss volatility quite a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fzMDzadtA.

4 years ago

Honestly - I don't believe this bullshit - no casino can rely on the factor of chance. Especially this rating is so complicated that nobody understands it anyway. From my point of view, it runs off quite differently.

The system remembers which games you like to play - that's why you have your own ID number. And the slot games behave accordingly. The more you play your games, the worse they get. The best example for me at the moment is Moonlight Princess , Rise of olympia, or Elk-games Fives lake.


That's not a lie - since April 2020, so shortly after the start of Corona, 98% of the games I only have bad games in the 3 games. Especially the princes and gods only shine through stupid decisions. They are more the masters of free game preventers. What else can you say nimma? And Fives Lake is the same - if you get free spins, you hardly get any keys, and if you have unlocked wilds you hardly win anything, because they are placed in such a way that a big win is hardly possible.

Now you have to be afraid that you will get into a free game, because as soon as the free game is over, the game switches over immediately and pretends to have hit the jackpot, because what is won in the free games is eaten again immediately.


The best example of Moonlight Princess or Rise of Olympus. You achieve by chance that the ball gets full, not with the help of the princesses or gods. And then you have a chance of 10% and no more that you get a free game. You can usually see that from the picture. Then there are the decisions made by the characters, and you might want to knock your head on the door, because decisions are simply not useful. And even if you don't manage to prevent the free spins, you still have the option of wiping one out in the free spins. And most of them do 90% of that. The whole thing has been going on since April - but you can't say anything - that's all fair.


What is this rating supposed to prove to me? Nothing at all, nothing at all. With every spin you do, the rating-super coincidence worsens



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paclmaya
4 years ago

It's normal to see various patterns in play, like certain games sometimes paying out a lot and sometimes not giving out any wins at all. But this is all a normal part of randomness. It's normal to see periods without any substantial wins, especially when playing high-volatility games – and all the games you mentioned have a high volatility. If a bonus usually pays out quite a lot of money, it can't be triggered too often, because the math would then not work out as intended. So it's quite usual to see a lot of "near misses".

Casinos CAN rely on randomness, because they know that they have an advantage in the games (house edge) and also a high number of players. Some players win, some players lose, but if you have a high number of players, the casinos can be pretty much sure that they will be profitable.

4 years ago


Slots are not designed to make you win or lose, they’re just designed to give out symbols. It’s mostly luck. But if you do know the volatility of the game, you can guess when it can give out money. But that’s a big leap for guessing!

4 years ago

thanks for the information boys and girls

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Shingshing
2 years ago

Unfortunately it is false

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Maros
2 years ago



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1 year ago

I got

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1 year ago

"Great initiative! The video on the mathematics of games of chance was insightful. Looking forward to learning more about slot machines. Will definitely share my feedback on YouTube."

JasmineSmith
1 year ago

Thanks for the feedback. You found a rather old video, but there is useful information to be gleaned from it all. 

Jaro
1 year ago

You're welcome! It's great to hear that even older content can still offer valuable insights. I will check that out too.

12 months ago

Thanks for the informative video. Good job. Deserves a lot of likes :)

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goodyufa
12 months ago

Thank you kindly 🙂.

Speaking about likes, If I'm not mistaken, it is a very cute capybara you have there...🙌

Radka
12 months ago

That's right, it's actually a groundhog! Easy mix-up though, they're both adorable critters. 😊

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