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11 months ago by kirekin
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1 month ago

Just forward the copy and paste messages and wonder why you don't get anything back.


You little addicted gamblers will not achieve anything; it is a problem on a different level, namely political.

You're wasting your time, fighting a forest fire with a small bottle of water. You're not going to change anything.

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Katze1337
1 month ago

No harm in trying.

Katze1337
1 month ago

Surely you had a problem with gambling at some point, otherwise you wouldn’t be here. People are allowed to be angry that they got taken advantage of. These casinos were purely made to target gamblers who have been banned using Gamstop and other means

Katze1337
1 month ago

So negative, glad I don't listen to you. Otherwise I wouldn't have received £5.5k back so far....

Wicked243
1 month ago

i think based on that comment and a few others they're not here to help, nor are they on 'our side' so to speak, very negative and rude in my opinion


also congrats on the money back!

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Wicked243
1 month ago

Is the group already open?

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Katze1337
1 month ago

I hope your message has perhaps been a bit lost in translation...otherwise you're at risk of sounding like a bit of a troll. Up til now I always thought your comments were fairly well balanced. If you don't have a problem with these casinos maybe you need to find another thread

1 month ago

Just forward the copy and paste messages and wonder why you don't get anything back.


You little addicted gamblers will not achieve anything; it is a problem on a different level, namely political.

You're wasting your time, fighting a forest fire with a small bottle of water. You're not going to change anything.

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1 month ago

For the last time, I warn you: show others respect.

Your account will be permanently banned for just one act of abusive stupidity, like the one you just committed.

It is not appropriate for you to speak to people like this, hence, it won't be tolerated.

1 month ago

Not everyone can handle the truth, or no one wants to hear it 😂

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Katze1337
1 month ago

This has nothing to do with being true; all that is happening is that you are ruining this thread with your disrespectful trolling and disregard for very basic rules.

This ends now, I am going to ban you.

Gojira7346
1 month ago

Thank you so much thank you I’m so grateful thank you xxxxxxx

1 month ago

they are scam i wait money 6 dager get not money .

1 month ago

when you ask a question, you always get the same answer, they just copy the same answers, I think they are bots, what a scam, people beware and the payments are not written as a betting shop, some clothing factories, different factories, money laundering, it's good when I reported them, the investigation is ongoing, I contacted all the services in in the world

Colin09
1 month ago

In general his tone was condescending and disrespectful but last few days he's just been outright rude, a troll and disrespectful, not to mention he's not trying to help in any way whatsoever. Few weeks back he was trying to get people to email him to get in touch with a 'lawyer' for a fee aswell which was super shady, asking for power of attorney (never sign over power of attorney to anyone under any circumstances,especially people you don't know)

1 month ago

hi has anyone got a email for Santeda International B.V.  As a whole instead of all it’s sites as there not replying

1 month ago

Finally, a few words that you should follow...


1.

Anyone who charges back or gets their money back should be sure that they are strong enough not to gamble it away again. The chargeback only works once, and after that you will be on every black list there is. Be it the casino's internal list or the payment service provider's list. If you start playing again, it is almost impossible to get your money back.

2.

In the last few days, I have pointed out to you that you have authorized the transactions, this is correct and important for the bank. The bank is liable for an authorized transaction, and the merchant is liable for an unauthorized transaction, which is why all transactions are usually verified in the 3DS. The bank therefore does not take the risk of being left with the costs of the chargeback. In the case of a chargeback, a chargeback fee is charged for each transaction. So you can be happy that you do not have to pay any fees for a lost chargeback. Minimum €20.00 per transaction, with 20-30 transactions that adds up to quite a lot.


3.

Trolling etc.

I did not ask anyone for a power of attorney, I simply referred a lawyer free of charge. After consulting the lawyer, he asked me to refrain from referring further clients, as most of them were not able to submit the documents in an appropriate form.


4.

Ombudsman:

Do you think you are the first to go there? The ombudsman checks whether the bank has made a mistake, but this is not the case. The transaction has been verified by you and the bank has made the payment. The bank is not obliged to check the correctness of the transaction or whether the payment is illegal. The credit card serves as a substitute for cash; it is intended to speed up the payment process. So a credit card payment is a "cash payment", as if you hand someone a €20 note.

Visa chargeback / Mastercard chargeback

5.

The oft-quoted excerpt from VISA Policy 12.7: Yes, the bank could file a chargeback, why doesn’t it?

Because the payments are coded in such a way, and sectors are specified where chargebacks are not possible. Cash transfer, crypto etc. VISA and Mastercard do not process chargebacks in connection with gambling, this will also be another reason. Furthermore, you wanted to play and you could play. If you won, you would have paid out the money. You also have to remember that you may have committed a crime yourself, participating in illegal gambling in connection with money laundering. Anyone who authorizes a payment for the first time does so unknowingly, after reading this article it is knowing and intentional.

The rest are all private disputes, the bank is not responsible for them, you are free to sue the payment service provider.


6.

Gambling addiction

You have gambled away sums of money that others would spend 3-4 months working on. This doesn't just happen like "Oops, I just gambled too much." No, this is pathological and cannot just be brushed aside. There is a serious reason behind it and professional support is required.


7.

Salty Naughty

I don't think I've offended anyone, I just called a spade a spade, which many people didn't want to understand. Read the legal regulations (point 5) and you'll know what I mean.


8.

Criminal casinos

It's not just a few people sitting there and setting up a casino, it's organized gangs with similar structures. This starts with the establishment of the casino and goes all the way to the payment processing. Point 8 is another reason you have to understand. These are not normal people you're doing business with, they're criminals. They falsify evidence or simply take money out of your pocket, or simply don't pay you the money and block your account. I assume that the money you win goes into the casino's own pockets 😉 Your name in the player account can simply be replaced with X. As we all know, criminals don't give a shit about any laws 😉


Points 9 and 10 follow.




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1 month ago

9.

Legal situation

The problem has not only existed today, it has been known for several years. A year ago I read an article about the amendment of the MCC, this was from 2010 or 2011. Wirecard was the first bank where it became public, it was simply copied by the other banks. Added to this are the outdated systems of VISA and Mastercard, which make it so easy for criminals to arrange payments. Furthermore, it is the banks in the UK and Cyprus that make it possible for criminals to arrange payments in this way. For players in Europe, the matter is a little more complex. In Germany, the providers invoke the freedom to provide services within Europe, but this has never been restricted because every country within and outside Europe can and may decide for itself whether gambling is legal or illegal. In relation to the issuing of a gambling license. The eGaming Curacao or Antillephone license is simply a certificate, it is not a real license. I could also get a license, "eKatze Gaming License" and sell it for a lot of money, but in the end it would be just as worthless.


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Diploma:

In my opinion, you should look for another forum, many representatives of casinos and payment service providers read here and look for the information they need. If 23 people write to the payment service providers at the same time with the same copy and paste message, then it should be clear to you why you are not getting your money back.

Radka was so arrogant when he said that the Guru team tolerates this post, so why doesn't the Casino Guru team help you by directing you to the casino? I assume that this has financial reasons, after all, this website lives from advertising revenue and profits from your losses or deposits via the referral link. Think about it for a moment 😉 When I see that people have gambled away 50k and their livelihood depends on it and the Casino Guru team does nothing, then I could puke. With this amount of money, the Guru team could definitely provide support. In addition, the casinos lack any KYC and AML. Accordingly, you can also list the casino as negative.


In the end, one must say, and you must also understand this:


You were not cheated. You paid money to the casino, probably indirectly (MCC fake), and the money was credited to your casino account. If it's gone and you've lost everything and haven't requested a withdrawal, then the casino has at most offered its service illegally. I suspect many have gambled away their money, zeroed their casino account, and now want to get a few dollars back. 😉


Radka, your fuse is quite short, I could have written this post under my old account, I just said that not everyone can handle the truth 😉 and I stand by that. I hope you feel guilty when you get dirty money from your work at Casino-Guru.

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Tabbbs
1 month ago

There is no email from Santeda. Contact is made via the casinos in question!

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