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Cashwin Casino - Player's withdrawals cancelled due to technical error.

Amount: NZ$1,091

Cashwin Casino
Safety Index:High
Submitted: 16 Sep 2023 | Case closed : 27 Nov 2023
Case closed Our verdict

Player stopped responding

REJECTED

Case summary

5 months ago

The player from Italy has experienced issues with various withdrawal requests. Despite a successful initial withdrawal confirmation, the funds never arrived. Subsequent withdrawal requests have been repeatedly cancelled with a declared technical error from the casino side. Player stopped responding to our question therefore the complaint was rejected.

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7 months ago

FIRST WITHDRAWAL APPROVED (COMPLETED) AND NEVER ARRIVED AT DESTINATION


Below is the summary of what happened:


07/09/2023 22:01 CEST - Additional documents required (duplicates)

08/09/2023 18:21 CEST - Confirmation of complete verification of the gaming account

08/09/2023 18:32 CEST - First deposit of NZD 198.70

08/09/2023 22:54 CEST - Additional documents required (duplicates)

09/09/2023 13:01 CEST - Second deposit of NZD 200.09

09/09/2023 15:58 CEST - First withdrawal request of NZD 1,091.09

09/10/2023 02:29 CEST - VIP level 1 passage

10/09/2023 22:28 CEST - Second withdrawal request of NZD 1,089.28

11/09/2023 13:37 CEST - First payment reminder

12/09/2023 09:01 CEST - Withdrawals cancelled

12/09/2023 10:23 CEST - Third withdrawal request of NZD 1,268.00

09/12/2023 09:02 CEST - First withdrawal approved (completed)

09/13/2023 09:36 CEST - Cancellation of the other two pending withdrawals

13/09/2023 13:15 CEST - Confirmation of payment of NZD 1,091.09 (first withdrawal) confirmed via email from Cameron (support)

09/13/2023 16:40 CEST - Fourth withdrawal request of NZD 1,268.00

09/13/2023 16:41 CEST - Withdrawal canceled again

13/09/2023 13:00 CEST - Technical error declared by Cashwin

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7 months ago

Dear Nemokid,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with your withdrawal and understand your concern. However, please bear in mind that it’s quite usual for withdrawals to take a couple of days or even weeks to get fully processed. This means that it may take some time before your money appears in your account. This delay may be caused by unfinished KYC verification or a high volume of withdrawal requests.

That’s why we advise players to be patient, cooperate fully with casino, and wait at least 14 days after requesting their withdrawals before submitting a complaint.

If your account has been successfully verified, your game history checked, your withdrawal approved by the casino, and you still haven't received your winnings by 14 days since requesting the withdrawal, please, let us know and we will intervene and try to help you.

Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.

Best regards,

Petronela

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The KYC check was carried out immediately after the first deposit and confirmed shortly after:

The problem arose from the moment in which I accumulated a winnings of approximately NZD 3,800.00 with multiple withdrawal requests in stages of approximately NZD 1,091.00 always denied without a real reason and after a wait of three days if not immediately , thus preventing me from being able to collect this win... perhaps with the petty intention of making me gamble the sum I won again? The first withdrawal was approved and confirmed via email, so much so that when I went to check at the cash desk the withdrawal was in fact COMPLETED . Subsequently, the withdrawal was canceled manually without this sum having actually been received or re-credited to my gaming account and without receiving any written communication regarding this event. It is well known that once a payment has been processed or the money has been sent in cryptocurrency, it cannot normally be cancelled!

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It makes no sense to wait 14 days since paradoxically this first withdrawal, after having been approved and confirmed, therefore paid via cryptocurrencies, was subsequently declared unsuccessful in the chat by Cameron upon my request, which is quite unlikely given that when sending cryptocurrency the the service provider notifies the outcome instantly, as this has first been confirmed and then executed, it certainly cannot fail at a later time as I would be led to believe, the money remains in the blockchain and cannot be called back. Furthermore, I repeat that this amount has not been received or credited back to my gaming account as it should have happened:

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7 months ago

Thank you very much, Nemokid, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.c@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.  

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7 months ago

Hello there,

Thank you Nemokid for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.

I would now like to ask Cashwin Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know what happened to the withdrawal and how can we resolve this issue.

Thank you!

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I would add that on September 13th the casino sent me an email where it admitted its responsibility for the withdrawals regularly requested and never paid . At that point I would have expected him to at least provide for the immediate payment of the first withdrawal which was reported to have been completed from an accounting point of view immediately after having requested customer support in the person of Cameron in the chat who had reassured me that the first withdrawal had been made even though it was canceled. Immediately afterwards the status was updated to completed, therefore the money clearly appeared to have been sent to my BTC wallet, money which unfortunately has never arrived to date.

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7 months ago

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

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7 months ago

We would like to address the recent complaint regarding the withdrawal issue the player encountered while using our casino services. Firstly, we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and frustration he may have experienced during this process.


Upon investigating the matter, we have reviewed the details of the player's withdrawal attempts and account history. Here is a summary of what transpired:


The player initiated several withdrawal requests through cryptocurrency, and our system encountered a technical error that resulted in automatic declines for each of these withdrawal attempts after they were approved. Consequently, the funds from all these declined withdrawal requests were returned to the player's casino account.


At one point during this process while the issue was still under investigation, we have approved one of the player's withdrawal request and the status of the transaction was changed to "Processing" and we sent the player an email notification confirming the approval. However, due to the persistent technical issue, the transaction was subsequently declined, and the funds were once again returned to the player's casino account. We understand that this situation was confusing and frustrating.


We also acknowledge that the player engaged in a LiveChat conversation with one of our Payment Support Agents, who provided him with updates on the status of the ongoing investigation into the system issues. 


Unfortunately, the technical issue was not resolved before the player opted to play with the funds that had been returned to his casino account. As a result, the funds were used in gaming activities and subsequently lost.


We genuinely apologize for the inconvenience and frustration experienced during this process. It was not our intention for the player to encounter such difficulties, and we understand the disappointment this may have caused.


We take the feedback seriously, and we are committed to improving our services to ensure a smoother experience for all our players. 


We understand that this situation may have left the player dissatisfied, and we apologize for any inconvenience he have experienced. Please know that we are committed to addressing and resolving issues promptly to enhance the overall player experience.


Best regards,

Cashwin Casino

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What is stated is false! Not all four withdrawals were credited back to my gaming account and the gaming account balance was NZD 3,800.00 of which 2,700.00 was replayed (I have proof of what I am saying as I took several screenshots when I was playing with the relevant balances ). The first withdrawal, as confirmed via email, was duly approved and completed via cryptocurrency and never reached the writer. Only later was it declared bankrupt in the chat by Cameron stating that I had been notified of the non-payment, which never happened! At first, Cameron himself had confirmed to me in chat that the first withdrawal had been paid despite the fact that it was in the rejected state on the cashier's screen. He also warned me of a system (technical) error that didn't show me the actual status of the transaction which instead appeared to have been completed and sent, to confirm this I was sent the notification of the completion of this first transaction via cryptocurrency. Not yet seeing the money in my BTC wallet, I contacted Cameron himself again in chat where this time he informed me that the transaction which initially appeared to have been paid was now instead failed and that the money had been credited back into the gaming account and an email was was sent, money never seen and email never received. I would add that it is paradoxical that a cryptocurrency transaction confirmed by the blockchain and the casino subsequently fails for no real reason. However, the money was clearly never transferred to my gaming account. Gaming account which had a balance of almost NZD 3,800.00 as per the screenshot in my possession. It is clear how the casino tried to hinder my withdrawals with the intention of making me replay them all with the excuse of the technical error, an error which upon my first complaint had coincidentally been immediately corrected at the cash desk, correcting the status of the first withdrawal from refused and completed with immediate notification of payment, then the event happened or without notifying me anything I was told verbally (chat) that the payment had instead failed! And where did NZD 1,091.00 go? I would also add that I could also request compensation for damages for the continuous disservices suffered.

This behavior on your part is truly dishonest. I therefore request the sending via email of all the accounting transactions (casino and sports) carried out since I registered with you and the immediate payment of the first transaction which appears to have been paid in all respects as per the notification sent via email and never reached the writer. Failing this, I will be forced to take legal action in the appropriate offices with a further increase in the costs incurred and the damage suffered.

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7 months ago

After conducting a thorough review of your account, including the transaction history, we would like to clarify that the information provided in our previous responses is accurate. The transaction history clearly shows that the funds from your withdrawal attempts were returned to your casino account, and this amount was subsequently used in gaming activities.


We understand that there may have been a misunderstanding or confusion regarding this situation, and for that, we sincerely apologize for any frustration this may have caused.


In light of your request for your account's transaction history, we have initiated a GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) email to provide you with the comprehensive information you seek. This email will contain a detailed account of all your bets, withdrawals, and transactions, enabling you to review the entire history of your interactions with our casino. We kindly ask for your prompt response to this GDPR email so that we can promptly provide you with the requested information.


We believe that once you have access to your full transaction history, you will be able to gain a clearer understanding of the situation and the sequence of events that led to the current scenario. We genuinely hope this will assist in resolving any remaining concerns or doubts.


We appreciate your cooperation and understanding as we work to provide you with the requested information and seek a resolution to this matter. Our aim is to ensure transparency and fairness in addressing your concerns.


Thank you for your patience, and we look forward to providing you with the necessary information to address this issue comprehensively.


Best regards,

Cashwin Casino

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The writer has been playing in online casinos for over twenty years and something like this had never happened to him . The focal point of the issue is that the first withdrawal in cryptocurrency, initially rejected, was then declared approved, but not visible in this last state at the cash register (on the screen) due to a system error as declared in the chat by Cameron! It is therefore disconcerting that the same transaction immediately after my complaint was corrected in the accounts (at the cash desk) to the status COMPLETED with subsequent communication via email (notification) from Cameron himself of his actual payment in BTC . In fact, therefore, this transaction carried out by the casino (payment) appears to have been processed, sent and finally approved by the blockchain. The fact that Cameron himself, upon my new payment reminder, declared in chat that this transaction had instead failed after its completion does not prove anything as he should also have sent a notification via email WITH A LOT OF ATTACHED DOCUMENTATION RELATING TO THIS TRANSACTION , which never happened as the fact evidently does not exist. I remind you that the notification has probative value, contrary to what one can say verbally or in chat. In this regard, to date I am not aware that any cryptocurrency transaction, once sent and therefore confirmed by the blockchain and subsequently notified by the casino, could subsequently result in failure.

PREVENTING A PLAYER FROM BEING ABLE TO WITHDRAW HIS WINNINGS AS CLEARLY HAPPENED IN THIS CASE DOES NOT SEEM TO ME TO BE NOTEWORTHY BEHAVIOR WHICH DOES NOT AT ALL RESPECT THE SO-CALLED FAIR PLAY WHICH MUST BE THE BASIS OF EVERY PLAY AND SPORTS EVENT.

FOR THESE CONCRETE REASONS I ASK THAT THE EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF THE FIRST "LOST" TRANSACTION ( WITHDRAWAL) BE HONORED REGARDLESS OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE CASINO SYSTEM WHICH EXPLODES THE WRITER FROM ANY RESPONSIBILITY, SINCE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE CASINO COMMUNICATED VIA EMAIL (NOTIFIED) IN USE IN TIME ITS FAILURE IS JUSTIFIED WITH CERTAIN EVIDENCE (FAILED TRANSACTION ETC...) AND IN A CREDIBLE MANNER AS THEORETICALLY HAPPENED ACCORDING TO THE SAME (VERY UNLIKELY FACT).

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I inform you that in the meantime the gentlemen of Cashwin, fearing a complaint from me, immediately suspended the gaming account! Great move. Compliments.

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6 months ago

Dear Nemokid, seeing as we cannot come to a conclusion between you and the casino, I'd recommend you contact the Gaming Curacao Authority (complaints@gaming-curacao.com) and submit a complaint to them. The Gaming Authority has more options and tools to help players. Please let me know if you need help with submitting the complaint (peter.c@casino.guru). I'd appreciate it if you could share that you filed the complaint before I close the complaint as "waiting for a decision from the regulator". I am sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion.

Best regards,

Peter

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The casino declares things that have never been proven in fact, while I have all the necessary documentation to demonstrate that the first withdrawal was lost I don't know where and never reached its destination. I know from experience that making a complaint to the licensee will certainly be dismissed as nothing because that type of license only protects the casino 100%. At this point I will take legal action, but please downgrade this casino by at least three stars as I consider this very serious. This casino never sent me any notification regarding the failure of this transaction (email notification and transfer made in BTC rejected never reached my email as proof of the fact). Indeed, he admits having had a generic technical problem and then they declare the first transaction failed when it had instead been processed by the casino, approved by the network and notified as paid to the undersigned and then paradoxically declare it failed when it is known that a transaction in BTC once sent and approved can never subsequently fail!

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6 months ago
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Hello Peter,


the casino appears to have, among other things, two sites, one of which has a fake license: https://www.cashwin745221.com

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GC's 365/JAZ license type doesn't bode well! You advised me instead to appeal to Curacao eGaming (CEG) but I doubt they can do anything about it, as they report the fact but essentially do nothing because they are not the direct licensees of this site. It is well known that this sub-license linked to the particular mother license GLH-OCCHKTW0709022022 issued by the Government of Curacao unfortunately only protects the operating site, therefore not guaranteeing a fair and equitable decision in the event of a complaint being lodged by the player. The other alternative to implement is certainly to contact the government bodies so that this does not happen in the future and the casino respects the principles of transparency and correctness or those basic codes of conduct that regulate this sector.

I THEREFORE ASK THAT THE CASINO IN QUESTION SEND TO MY EMAIL A COPY OF THE TRANSACTION IN QUESTION WHICH AT FIRST APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THEREFORE SENT (PAID) VIA BLOCKCHAIN TO MY PERSONAL WALLET AS SHOWN BY THE EMAIL SENT TO ME SEVERAL TIMES BY CAMERON, AND THEN IT WAS DECLARED IN THE CHAT TO BE FAILED AFTER SEVERAL DAYS BY THE SAME, WITHOUT HOWEVER HAVING NEVER BEEN CONFIRMED OR NOTIFIED BY EMAIL TO THE UNDERSIGNED.

I ALSO UNDERLINE HOW THE FIRST TWO WITHDRAWALS WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT CONSTRAINTS OF THE CASINO AS THEY DID NOT EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF EUR 600.00 (NZD 1,092.00) DAILY AND EUR 3,000.00 (NZD 5,460.00) MONTHLY FOR THE BASIC LEVEL, THEREFORE THEY SHOULD NOT BE CANCELED AS HAPPENED IN THIS CASE!

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On the 12th of September, having previously moved to the upper VIP level 1, therefore with higher withdrawals, I decided to withdraw or at least try to withdraw again the sum of NZD 1,268.00 (EUR 700.00) again with negative results as on the 13th ! These new requests were again refused without any justified reason! !

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What can I say, every time I tried to withdraw, the casino systematically refused such withdrawals! The final conclusion of this shameless attitude is yours! Furthermore, why was it that upon entering the cash register there were no accounting records of the cancellations made (refunds)?

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6 months ago

Dear Nemokid, the casino has stated that they initiated a GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) email to provide you with the comprehensive information you sought before in the thread. I recommend you respond to this email the get the information you want or if you have not received this email let us know and we'll contact the casino representative.

Thank you in advance!

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Hi Peter, this information should be regularly visible to the player upon entering the cashier as in all self-respecting casinos in the world. You can enter the gaming account exclusively with your own credentials even after having completed the KYC, credentials which are strictly personal and inviolable (therefore privacy is fully protected according to current international regulations). It is quite incorrect as well as illegal not to be able to enter your account and not be able to read in chronological order all the movements including any reversals (credits) made in the selected historical period. In fact, in this casino only the deposits and withdrawals are read while the reversals that have occurred (credits) for the rejected transactions as in the present case are absolutely not recorded and therefore are not visible, by doing so the casino could at its own discretion modify the same and get your accounts back to your liking! From an accounting perspective, all of this is irregular and not transparent.

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6 months ago

Dear Nemokid, I understand your frustration but even though this is uncommon in the industry as you have observed, I'd appreciate your cooperation in the matter so we can work with what we have. If the casino provides you the information after you respond to the email could you please send it to my email? (peter.c@casino.guru)

As you may know, we at Casino Guru act as mediators in resolving players’ disputes. We have no authority to enforce the legality of rules so if you wish to take this case to the authorities I can close this complaint as "waiting for a decision from the regulator" and you can let us know how your dispute has been ruled once it is resolved.

Thank you in advance!

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The casino in question has always been uncooperative, in fact I would say not at all. He intervened on this complaint many weeks after the incident and at my explicit request of which I sent you a copy of the email. Loyalty known as fair play and transparency in online gaming are not commodities that are easily found and this case is a clear example of how these 365/JAZ licensed casinos have been operating for years and to which the Government Authority of Curacao is listening as a merchant perhaps due to a very obvious conflict of interest for me! At this point if the casino is not willing to pay at least the first withdrawal of NZD 1,091.00 I will not only be angry on a political level but also on a legal level. Personally I find it paradoxical that they have to initiate a useless internal procedure when this information must be made clear and transparent in the player's cash register regardless, accounting for all income and expenditure including any cancellations that have occurred. If the casino responds to me within an acceptable timeframe, I will certainly send you everything as I always have. I repeat, mine is a question of principle and not economic. Honesty and fairness come first to everything for me.

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6 months ago

Dear Nemokid, have there been any further developments in the case?

Thank you in advance!

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5 months ago

Dear Nemokid,

We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.

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5 months ago

Unfortunately, the player has not responded to our messages and questions. Consequently, we are unable to investigate further and have no choice but to reject this complaint.

The player can reopen this complaint at any time.

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