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BonusBlitz Casino - Player's winnings were void due to double-spending on a blockchain.

Amount: $1,321

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Safety Index:Very high
Submitted: 29 May 2023 | Case closed : 09 Mar 2024
Case closed Our verdict

Unjustified complaint

REJECTED

Case summary

8 months ago

The player from Italy submitted a withdrawal request less than two weeks prior to contacting us. We ended up rejecting the complaint. Unfortunately, the player's winnings were confiscated as his deposit transaction wasn't verified (double-spending on the blockchain).

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1 year ago
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I deposited on the 21st of this month via Conio (BTC) and received a 175% bonus. I won the disputed sum and having complied with all the required requirements, I made the withdrawal. After 3 days I asked for explanations on why the withdrawal was still pending, having already withdrawn in the past without encountering any problems. I was told that the transaction was yet to be confirmed (which is very strange as the casino had duly credited my deposit + bonus to my gaming account). Meanwhile today the casino on its own initiative canceled the withdrawal stating that the transaction was still to be confirmed. At this point, after waiting in vain, I simply accelerated the transaction using the appropriate option on Conio and the transaction was confirmed after a few minutes. I requested the withdrawal again and this time my winnings were canceled with the excuse that I had made a second deposit (it's just that I accelerated the same deposit which is a very different thing).

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1 year ago

Dear Nemokid,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with your withdrawal and understand your concern. However, please bear in mind that it’s quite usual for withdrawals to take a couple of days or even weeks to get fully processed. This means that it may take some time before your money appears in your account. This delay may be caused by unfinished KYC verification or a high volume of withdrawal requests.
That’s why we advise players to be patient, cooperate fully with casino, and wait at least 14 days after requesting their withdrawals before submitting a complaint.

If your account has been successfully verified, your game history checked, your withdrawal approved by the casino, and you still haven't received your winnings by 14 days since requesting the withdrawal, we will intervene and do our best to help you.
Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.

Best regards,
Complaints Resolution Center

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1 year ago
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I state that the casino in question illegally confiscated my winnings after waiting 8 days from the withdrawal request, this is the second withdrawal I make, the first was paid in 3 days. Coming to the fact, I deposited on May 21st via bitcoin, the transaction was confirmed almost immediately and the money credited almost instantly to the gaming account together with the 175% bonus. I played and won USD 1,321.42 and having respected the volume of bets established in 15 times I requested the payment on the same day of the deposit. After 3 days the same was still strangely pending, so I contacted customer support via email who told me to my amazement that I would have to wait for confirmation of the deposit to be able to withdraw, a deposit that had instead already been confirmed previously otherwise I would not have certainly could neither play nor win! This is a clear attempt to deceive as having received the deposited amount plus the bonus it is evident that the transaction had already been confirmed and accepted by the casino. Later after winning the casino refused to pay the winnings with the excuse that the transaction was still pending in the blockchain! If this had been the case, then he would not have had to credit any amount at the time of deposit, which instead happened regularly. On the eighth day of waiting, seeing that the withdrawal was still pending, I decided to increase the miners' commission for that transaction in order to speed up the withdrawal. Subsequently I requested the withdrawal again and the winnings were even confiscated with the reason for a non-existent double deposit! In fact, I simply accelerated the transaction through the option present in Conio to be able to withdraw the winnings in a reasonable time. In any case, the transaction is to be considered valid, accepted and confirmed by the casino at the time of deposit and the payment of the winnings must be transferred to the gaming account and withdrawn by the undersigned. I therefore request that the casino re-credit the entire amount of USD 1,321.42 illegally reduced to the gaming account.

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1 year ago

Thank you very much for your reply, Nemokid. I apologize for the misunderstanding. The first message was automatically generated based on the answers you provided while submitting this complaint.

Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.

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Hi Kristina,


below is the deposit duly made and confirmed by the system:

the payment reminder with the related absurd response:

Since I deposited, played and won, it is irrefutable that the casino has correctly received the money I deposited via Coin and completely confirmed this transaction from origin, otherwise it certainly would not have credited any amount + bonus to my gaming account. In fact, before crediting the sum deposited in the gaming account, the system checks that there is full monetary availability on the dedicated wallet and only then transfers the sum to it! In fact, this is the standard practice of all casinos or at the time of deposit the transaction remains pending until it is confirmed by the blockchain, only after this confirmation does the casino authorize the crediting of the money into the gaming account! Which happened regularly in the present case. Subsequently, after having waited for eight days in vain and not seeing the problem resolved to which assistance always responded to waiting without a justified reason, I opted to speed up the original transaction with the specific option present in Conio, effectively increasing the commission for miners in order to be able to unblock this situation as it actually happened, but to my amazement the customer support even confiscated the entire winnings of USD 1,321.42 with the excuse of a double deposit never occurred, since, as previously explained, it is simply a matter of having opted to accelerate the same original transaction which would in all probability have remained pending for an unreasonable amount of time with the further risk of being unjustly invalidated in any case as an excessive amount of time has elapsed compared to the usual one.

Furthermore, in the aforementioned email they even claim against all reality that the first deposit never took place when instead with the money deposited and credited together with the bonus I was able to play and win! It is clear that the casino intends to confuse ideas and try to circumvent the underlying problem which is that of having to pay the winnings regularly achieved by the writer. In any case, regardless of what happened after the deposit, the same, I repeat, was confirmed almost instantly by the casino which credited the money deposited + the bonus to the game account, allowing me to play and win. Therefore the casino should have subsequently paid the withdrawal request without any absurd excuse like the one communicated to me above. Payment that usually takes place in three days as happened for the first withdrawal requested some time ago. I therefore believe that this fact constitutes misappropriation punishable by law, therefore I invite the casino in question to immediately transfer the winnings to my gaming account in order to be able to withdraw them later.


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1 year ago

Thank you very much, Nemokid, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.m@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.  

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1 year ago

Hi Nemokid,

I have looked at your case and understand the situation. Let me contact the casino and I will do my best to help. I would like to invite BonusBlitz Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.

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1 year ago

Hello Peter & Kristina,


I hope you're both well.


Hello Nemokid,


Thank you for raising your concerns through Casino Guru as it gives us a chance to shed more light on cryptocurrency and Bitcoin in general.


As you have stated, on the 21st of May, you did generate an invoice for a Bitcoin deposit on BonusBlitz and in the screenshot below, you see that the deposit was credited to your account.



We have to mention, cryptocurrency deposits in BonusBlitz are credited without a confirmation. This is done in order to allow the players to access their funds immediately. However, upon withdrawal, the winning deposit is required to have at least 1 confirmation in order to be able to proceed with the payout. Without said confirmation, the withdrawal cannot be finalized as that means that the funds haven't reached our end.


In your grievance you stated that the Casino only accepts and credits deposits once they are confirmed, and later on you stated that you added another deposit, days later, in order to expedite the original transaction. So, allow me to ask, which one of the two is it?


Also, the action of making a new, smaller deposit to expedite the confirmation of the original deposit that had a smaller miner's fee, would show as two separate transactions and the amount would not be combined as seen on blockchain.


In the screenshot above, you see that the deposit, without a confirmation, was credited on the 21st of May. Below, you may see that the Casino waited for 8 days for your deposit to be confirmed before deciding to void the winnings as in the meantime our wallet provided us with confirmation that the funds were not sent.



You may see that once the winnings were voided due to an invalid deposit, your valid deposit was credited to your account.



Also, in the screenshots, you may see the transaction ID (Hash) of the transactions. The original deposit was in fact a double spent deposit as the information on blockchain clearly shows.


https://blockchair.com/search?q=47c3930fbb4115c93957c4c372e1334d82876828c4913aecef8f3dfc1a50890b



https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3Ne7FoXHMz8HL98CM9hGrB3y2AjaV88oH1



All of the information provided clearly show that the player failed to make a valid deposit which resulted in the voiding of his winnings.


We trust that the information provided is evidence enough of the player's actions and the reasons behind the Casino's decision.

Please let us know if any additional information is needed.


Thank you for you understanding.


Kind Regards,

BonusBlitz Management

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1 year ago
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Dear Casino Representative,

IF THE DEPOSIT HAD NOT BEEN VALID, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREDIT ANY AMOUNT TO MY GAMING ACCOUNT AND ALLOW ME TO PLAY AND THEN INCORRECTLY CANCEL THE AMOUNT WON! IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CONCEPT OF FAIR PLAY OR FAIRNESS IS NOW WELL KNOWN AND CLEAR ALMOST EVERYONE. FOR THIS REASON NO CASINO INCLUDING YOURS WOULD DREAM OF ADVANCE ANY DEPOSIT THAT HAS NOT BEEN VERIFIED IN ADVANCE! THIS IS THE GENERAL RULE OF ALL ONLINE CASINOS.

On the contrary, you want us to believe that you are the only casino in the world that advances money into its players' gaming account by taking the relative risk of non-payment, when on average cryptocurrency transactions take place in 10 minutes at most, except for rare congestions of the blockchain, therefore also here without a real and effective reason such as the one claimed to allow players to wait for unnecessary credit? What are you a charity like UNICEF? That statement says a lot about how you operate!! I didn't dwell on all the useless technical explanations and related screenshots, so many speeches to say nothing in the end! The substance is what matters. What you claim that you credit the sums deposited without any verification and confirmation, all this is absolutely false as I repeat, NO CASINO ADVANCES MONEY TO PLAYERS. I have been playing for over 20 years in many casinos like yours and the money is clearly transferred to the gaming account only after verifying that the money has arrived correctly in the dedicated wallet and then transferring it to the customer's gaming account! All the technical talk about how cryptocurrencies are handled goes beyond the fact that you are trying to get around the non-payment issue on a regular win! Here we are certainly not at a seminar and this justification is absurd since the undersigned has played and won with the money that the casino has regularly credited to the actual gaming account! What happens technically nobody cares but the substance counts or what actually happened: I deposited through Minting in BTC and the money arrived regularly in the dedicated gaming account (see the attached screenshot of the house where the payment was recorded with the relative bonuses). With this amount I was able to play and win regularly. Otherwise or in the case of non-payment by deposit I would not have been able to play and win nothing. Since this happened it is clear that the casino first verified this transaction and secondly confirmed the same by crediting the deposited amount plus the related bonus. I repeat, no casino dreams of advancing money to its customers, therefore yours is simply an excuse not to pay the winnings.

AFTER EIGHT DAYS OF WAITING AT THE TIME OF THE WITHDRAWAL, YOU HAVE COME UP WITH THE EXCUSE OF THE NON-PAYMENT AND SUBSEQUENTLY OF A SECOND DEPOSIT MADE WHEN IT IS SIMPLY AN ACCELERATION OF THE ORIGINAL DEPOSIT* MADE BY THE UNDERSIGNED THROUGH THE SPECIAL OPTION PRESENT IN MINT, ALL OF THIS FOR CONFISCATE A REGULAR WIN? AT MY HOUSE THIS IS CALLED SCAM.


*EXAMPLE OF A DEPOSIT MADE THROUGH MINT ON ANOTHER CASINO WITH THE SUBSEQUENT POSSIBILITY OF ACCELERATE THE SAME AS WHICH HAPPENED IN THE SPECIFIC CASE

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1 year ago

Hi all,

Thank you for your replies.

Dear Nemokid,

I agree with you that automatically adding balance and letting players play with the balance from unverified transactions causes problems on a regular basis. Many casinos use this system to speed up the deposit process and try to win "the race of who has the quickest deposits". However, we have to focus on the facts here. The fact is that, according to the blockchain, your first deposit didn't get through and therefore all winnings derived from that deposit are void. I understand your frustration and realize that the system isn't perfect but, unfortunately, we can't penalize the casino for this. I'm afraid your complaint will be rejected. I wish I could be of more help.

Best regards,

Peter

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