888 Casino - Player's account permanently closed without reason.

So i tried to withdraw my money 20.5 but the cashier said that i need to verify my id first(my account was thou already verified) so i went to live support and asked them the situtation. They said that i need to send again my id to the operation team. So i sent my id again and 2 days later they answered:

After a full review of your 888sport account, we have decided to permanently close your account wxwIllow.

After that i went to live support and ask the reason but they didnt give me any. Just that they will forward my issue to the operation team. The next day i get two emails from them.

First was: Please be advised due to betting restrictions placed on your account, you are no longer eligible to participate in any 888sport promotions.

Second was: Please be advised due to betting restrictions placed on your account, you will not be able to place any further sport bets with us.

Any pending bets that have already been placed will be settled as normal and you can continue to use any other products on our site.

Still i can't login to my account(only mobile cashier) where i can't do much.

So i went to live support again and they told me the same thing again that they have forwared my issue to the operation team.

I deposit 3.5 and have only played casino and sport betting. Didn't use any bonus or promotions. Lost to casino about 1,2ke and won sport betting maybe 50-100e. So i think im down like more than 1000e.

Can you please help me to get my remaining money back, thank you!

Dear wxwI,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. 

• Could you please advise when your account was created?
• Do I understand correctly that the funds you tried to withdraw are still in your casino account?

Additionally, if there is any other relevant communication between you and the casino, please forward it to kristina.s@casino.guru. Alternatively, you can post it here. 

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.

Best regards,

Kristina

My 888poker account was opened 2011. I can see that first message from 888sport is from 2019.

My first deposit after 2019 was this month to 888sport. I played there some bets and then played also some casino and deposit more when I lost. So I switched between 888sport and 888casino when I played. Not sure are the remaining balance sport account or casino. I thought that they are kinda same, coz my balance always switched to casino to sport and vice versa when I played.

EDIT: Can't login to 888sport or 888casino.

Thank you very much, wxwI, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Branislav (branislav.b@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.  

Hello, wxwI,

I am sorry to hear about your trouble. I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

Now I would like to invite the casino representative to join this conversation and participate in resolving this complaint.

Dear 888 Casino team,

Could you please provide us with a detailed explanation of the player's situation? What happened with the disputed account? Did the complainant register with any other account(s)?

Do I understand correctly that the casino limited one of his accounts by restrictions, and he bypassed the imposed restrictions by creating another account (the disputed one), so the casino closed it? Or, what happened there? Can you please be more specific regarding the breach and possibly substantiate it with relevant evidence?

If it suits you better, feel free to send the necessary details/evidence to my email address (branislav.b@casino.guru).

Hello Branislav and thank you for your reply!

Can you please specify the several discrepancies about my informations? There is absolutely zero chance that i have made multiply accounts or have any restrictions before this accident.

Like i said earlier. I didn't even use any bonuses or promotions when i started to play 888sport again on 2.5.2024. I even did request to reset my password coz i didnt remember it anymore from 2019 when i played last time 888sport.

So how can its even possible to do more than one account with same informations? Also i did get verified my account on 888sport and kept playing without any problems. The problem started when i was not allowed to withdraw my money and asked my id again. And all that, i lost to 888sport/888 casino something like 1000-1200€ after my deposits last month. So i didnt even benefit anything from 888.

The whole situations seems absurd for my point of view.

Thank you for the clarification, wxwI. Let's first wait for the casino's detailed explanation and details/supporting evidence.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

What would be the next step to take? Complain to MGA or something else? I know I haven't done anything wrong. Been playing +50 casinos for 16 years and this is the first time casino if I may say is trying to steal my money.

Thank you for in advance!

Yes, probably, ADR and/or MGA. Maybe it is a misunderstanding. Let's see what the casino will reply.

I tried to contact them also in other ways recently, so I extended the current timer until the end of the week.

Thank you for your patience.

I am extending the timer by another 7 days and waiting for a response from the casino.

I was in contact with the casino representative, and the complaint should have been forwarded to their Customer Support. I am not sure whether they will also contact me regarding the matter, wxwI, but someone from the casino should contact you, likely via email, if they have not yet.

If you have any news or updates in the meantime, or if there is any progress, please let me know.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Thank you Branislav!

I will inform you right away if I get contacted by them.

Hello, wxwI,

Since the casino does not have any unresolved cases with us yet, the casino representative replied to me regularly trying to help us but only has not contacted me back with updates after my last messages (I was told that they currently also are putting up a new complaint resolution process together), I will write to them again and extend the timer from the casino once again. However, if no one from the casino contacts me/you or we are not provided with relevant information until the current timer expires, the complaint will be closed. I will inform the casino representative about the same. I am aware of the time it has already been taking.

So, let's give the casino one more chance and the last 7 days to help us solve the matter.

If I have any news or updates, I will inform you.

Thank you for your infinite patience and understanding.

Thank you! Hopefully it get resolved.

Dear wxwI,

Are you please able to submit a complaint to the casino's ADR(s) - eCOGRA and/or ODR, as stated in the casino's Terms and Conditions, or directly to the regulator (MGA), and provide me with any confirmation about it once it is done?

You can find all the necessary information HERE, section "15. Disputes and Complaints".

Thank you Branislav for the update!

I watched all three website quickly and seems that the MGA might be the easiest/not so much time taking for me. Do you reckon still submit a complaint also to Ecogra or ODR? And should I also link this complaint to them?

Hello,

To be honest, I would start with eCOGRA and ODR - I think MGA has somewhere stated that the matter should be first discussed with ADR if there is any (eCOGRA/ODR in this case), and at the same time, ADR's decision is basically taken as the regulator's decision.

Feel free to let me know how you decide and/or forward me a confirmation about the submitted complaint(s). I would need some proof of the submitted complaint - our new process due to issues regarding similar cases in the past.

As for forwarding this complaint to them - sure, do not hesitate to mention it there.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Hello Branislav!

I just want to update that i have now done the complaints both eCOGRA and ODR.

Alright, great. Thank you, wxwI, for the update and confirmations.

As the complaint was filed with ADRs, which should be able to help you, we are (temporarily) closing the matter as unresolved for now.

Once you have the final decision from ADR(s), please, let us know about the outcome. We will then review it and reconsider the complaint on our side.

It is possible to inform us by reopening this complaint or by sending the necessary information and documents to my email address (branislav.b@casino.guru). In case we are not provided with the results of ADR's investigation by any party involved in a reasonable time, the complaint will be reopened by casino.guru.

I sincerely believe your issue will be carefully reviewed and resolved.

The casino can provide us with an update too.

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding.

Best regards,

Branislav, Casino.Guru

Greetings all,

Based on the previous communication and update provided by the complainant, we reopened the complaint and will do our best to resolve it.

Thank you very much, wxwI, for your emails and the provided documents with updates from the casino's ADRs.

Although you did not know about it and I admit I did not state it completely clearly in my previous post (I am sorry for any inconvenience caused), the complaint would have been automatically opened by our system 3 months after the temporary closure of the complaint. Therefore, I used the word "temporarily" on purpose there. In addition, the "waiting for the regulator's decision" classification means an uncertain result of the complaint on our side (without penalization although classified as 'unresolved'), so we would have got back to the complaint and reviewed/reopened/updated it anyway. Unfortunately, our system is not perfect, and by requesting reopening earlier than the system could have automatically reopened the case itself, the date of the automatic reopening date was postponed by 3 months. Therefore, it took longer until I noticed what was going on and looked into the matter in detail. I understand your frustration, but basically, it would have been enough if you only waited a few more days, and the complaint would have been reopened by our system, asking you for an update.

I sincerely apologize for getting back to you with a delay. Anyway, at least finally some good news for you now - after reviewing all the details you provided us with after the temporary complaint closure and checking the casino's website regarding their internal complaint processes, let's ask the casino to investigate the matter again and explain the situation. To be honest, their way of handling players' complaints, as well as statements of the ADRs, make no sense at all.

Although I was in contact with the casino representative only outside the thread, in the meantime, I had another case with the casino, where they replied directly in the thread, and they should have finally put together handling complaints on 3rd party forums. So, I believe someone from the casino will comment on the matter here or at least will reply to me with relevant information and details outside the thread. Otherwise, after all that happened here, the complaint will be closed as unresolved.

Thank you for your infinite patience and understanding.

Dear 888 Casno Team,

Please look into the user's issue once again and provide us with the relevant explanation/information/details/supporting evidence, especially regarding the player's remaining balance that was left in the disputed account.

Since ADRs the casino states in its Terms and Conditions accept disputes only after the casino's internal complaint process is completed, we require your full cooperation here and now. In another complaint, you provided us with the information that the casino does not have any email support, and players have to turn to the casino's live chat, but it looks like the casino's live chat was not very helpful in this case, and there are no other instructions for the internal complaint process. Therefore, it appears there is no way how we or the player could solve the matter than that the casino will fully cooperate in resolving this complaint and provide all the requested.

As was indicated above, please note if the casino fails to cooperate and provide the requested, the complaint will be closed as unresolved, and the casino's rating will be decreased accordingly.

If it suits you better, feel free to share everything relevant via email (branislav.b@casino.guru).

Thank you for understanding. Looking forward to hearing from you.

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.