The player from Italy had his winnings cancelled due to placing bets more than 30% of the deposit. We rejected the complaint because the player stopped responding to our messages and questions.
Re: Withdrawal suspended reminder
You answered on Tue 25/01/2022 13:00
JC
JellyBean Casino
TO:
Gianluca Gianluca
Tue 25/01/2022 12:52
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Hi Gianluca,
I just talked to finance to find out why your winnings were cut.
It appears that your withdrawal of 1,090 has been declined and canceled. The reason is due to the violation of the Terms and Conditions.
You have played bets greater than 30% of your original deposit which is not allowed. Check out our Terms and Conditions here where this rule is mentioned: https://www.jellybeancasino.com/general-terms-conditions/?lang=it
16. Betting Rules
1. By playing at the casino you agree and are bound to follow the rules of each game.
When a player attempts to gain an unfair advantage over the casino, this includes strategies such as "martingale", the casino will take action, including the confiscation of winnings and bonus funds. We will only take this action if this behavior is reasonably evident.
Place single bets equal to or greater than 30% of the last deposit in play, if less than the bonus. This maximum wagering limit applies to all players even if no bonus is received or if the total wagering requirement has been canceled.
Your in-game deposit was € 30. This means that the maximum bet you can make is € 8.99.
I have attached to this email an excel file with your complete game session in which you have won your winnings with bets over € 8.99 which are not allowed.
Do you understand now why your winnings were cut? If not let me know and I'll be happy to explain further.
Best regards,
Maria S.
Club Account Manager
Jelly Bean Casino
Dear Liukk80,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your negative experience. I checked terms and conditions, and I found the term the casino was referring to:
„The casino reserves the right to remove winnings and withhold withdrawals where irregular play is evident. Irregular play is defined by the casino as one of the following. i. Using double up strategies like Martingale etc. ii. Placing zero, low margin or hedge betting are all defined as irregular betting for bonus play through requirements.
I would like to emphasize, that we believe such rules are predatory only when they are applied to the real money game because players should be allowed to play with their deposit the way they prefer. However, the maximum allowed bet rule is, in fact, an industry-standard, just as the fact that a casino has the right to seize the player's winnings from bonus play after breaking this rule.
Before we move forward with this complaint, could you please clarify whether you accumulated your winnings with or without an active bonus?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Kristina
Hi the bonus was active but when I increased the bets it was only in the last few games and this shouldn't have affected the result.
Among other things, when I solicited a response to the withdrawal they told me that everything was fine.
Re: Withdrawal suspended reminder
You answered on Mon 24/01/2022 09:52
JC
JellyBean Casino
TO:
Gianluca Gianluca
Sun 23/01/2022 06:15
Hi Gianluca,
Congratulations on your recent winnings!
I checked with finance. Your withdrawal is pending as all withdrawals are reviewed and according to the Casino Terms and Conditions it can take up to 5 business days to be processed and approved.
Best regards,
Maria S.
Club Account Manager
Jelly Bean Casino
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 9:01 AM, Gianluca Gianluca
Good morning,
I had already sent an email a few days ago in relation to the request for updates for the withdrawal.
Having not received an answer today, I requested assistance from the chat which tells me to contact this email and as a VIP customer I will receive a quick response.
He also told me that the levy is pending.
I don't understand why there are so many problems with a withdrawal every time.
The other time after so much suffering I got the payment but this time too it becomes nerve-wracking.
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Re: Withdrawal suspended reminder
You replied on Tue 25/01/2022 12:45
JC
JellyBean Casino
TO:
Gianluca Gianluca
Tue 25/01/2022 10:15
Hi Gianluca,
I checked with the finance department. I have been informed that your withdrawal request will end the process today.
You will be contacted by email once finished.
Best regards,
Maria S.
Club Account Manager
Jelly Bean Casino
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:03 AM, Gianluca Gianluca
Good morning,
I got the mail.
So can you confirm that the withdrawal is due today?
Thank you
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-------- Original message --------
From: JellyBean Casino
Date: 24/01/22 12:50 (GMT + 01: 00)
To: Gianluca Gianluca
Subject: Re: Withdrawal suspended reminder
Hi Gianluca,
According to the Casino Terms and Conditions, "We always aim to process withdrawals within 5 business days, however we cannot be held responsible if payments take more than 5 business days."
Your withdrawal was requested on January 18th, which means today is 4th business day.
Best regards,
Maria S.
Club Account Manager
Jelly Bean Casino
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:50 AM, 12 - VIP / Oscar T.
Hi Gianluca,
According to the Casino Terms and Conditions, "We always aim to process withdrawals within 5 business days, however we cannot be held responsible if payments take more than 5 business days."
Your withdrawal was requested on January 18th, which means today is 4th business day.
Best regards,
Maria S.
Club Account Manager
Jelly Bean Casino
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 9:52 AM, Gianluca Gianluca
Good morning,
I have absolutely read the conditions.
3 to 5 days.
The 5 days run from today.
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-------- Original message --------
From: JellyBean Casino
Date: 23/01/22 07:15 (GMT + 01: 00)
To: Gianluca Gianluca
Subject: Re: Withdrawal suspended reminder
Hi Gianluca,
Congratulations on your recent winnings!
I checked with finance. Your withdrawal is pending as all withdrawals are reviewed and according to the Casino Terms and Conditions it can take up to 5 business days to be processed and approved.
Best regards,
Maria S.
Club Account Manager
Jelly Bean Casino
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On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 6:15 AM, 12 - VIP / Oscar T.
Hi Gianluca,
Congratulations on your recent winnings!
I checked with finance. Your withdrawal is pending as all withdrawals are reviewed and according to the Casino Terms and Conditions it can take up to 5 business days to be processed and approved.
Best regards,
Maria S.
Club Account Manager
Jelly Bean Casino
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 9:01 AM, Gianluca Gianluca
Good morning,
I had already sent an email a few days ago in relation to the request for updates for the withdrawal.
Not having received an answer today I requested assistance from the chat which tells me to contact this email and as a VIP customer I will receive a quick response.
He also told me the levy is pending.
I don't understand why there are so many problems with a withdrawal every time.
The other time after so much suffering I got the payment but this time too it becomes nerve-wracking.
Sent from my Galaxy
Sent with Kayako
Your withdrawal request
JC
JellyBean Casino
A:
Gianluca Gianluca
mar 25/01/2022 10:49
Dear Gianluca,
As part of our regular withdrawal review process, we have seen that the terms and conditions of the casino were not met.
Our Terms and Conditions prohibit placing single bets equal to or greater than 30% from the value of the deposit.
We have therefore cancelled your withdrawal request and removed the winnings.
Should you have any questions please contact our customer support via live chat on our site.
Kind Regards,
Verification Team
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Thank you for your reply, Liukk80. I am sorry, but after reviewing your game history I see that you breached the maximum allowed bet way too many times, and a lot of those bets resulted in a win. Since you played with an active bonus, I am afraid that there is not much more we could do for you.
We would like to see casinos implementing systems that would prevent players from placing higher than allowed bets, but, unfortunately, this is not standard practice yet. You were not stopped or blocked when you decided to increase your bet, and, as a result, you breached the maximum bet rule.
I can only recommend that you read all the T&Cs carefully before you start playing to avoid any misunderstandings in the future. Casinos try to design their bonuses to be as attractive as possible, but the rules must always be followed. Please do not hesitate to contact me if there is anything else, I could do for you in this matter. Thank you for your understanding.