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11 months ago by kirekin
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DynamoHarry
4 months ago

You log in to your bank. Looking forward to advertise purchase/withdrawal. You press in, then you get options such as if you made the transaction YES/NO yourself. Then you can fill in whether you were allowed to stay or not. You can also write in a box and explain what happened. You then choose whether you need the money immediately or after the investigation.



You should really be able to advertise ALL your transactions. Because you have to fill in if you have done "business" with the company. And you don't do that, it's a 3rd party.. I'm actually thinking of booking a meeting with the bank and going ALL in.. explain everything.. How they manipulate codes, how they take advantage of gambling addicts, that they refuse to take gambling responsibility seriously . Yes, you can spice it up as much as you want.. gambling addiction is classified as a disease in Sweden, so it might work out. Will think about this for a while

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4 months ago

You log in to your bank. Looking forward to advertise purchase/withdrawal. You press in, then you get options such as if you made the transaction YES/NO yourself. Then you can fill in whether you were allowed to stay or not. You can also write in a box and explain what happened. You then choose whether you need the money immediately or after the investigation.



You should really be able to advertise ALL your transactions. Because you have to fill in if you have done "business" with the company. And you don't do that, it's a 3rd party.. I'm actually thinking of booking a meeting with the bank and going ALL in.. explain everything.. How they manipulate codes, how they take advantage of gambling addicts, that they refuse to take gambling responsibility seriously . Yes, you can spice it up as much as you want.. gambling addiction is classified as a disease in Sweden, so it might work out. Will think about this for a while

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4 months ago

yes, there are a few different ways to put it up, don't know which is best.

Theoretically, I think it's crazy that it doesn't work, because we haven't done business with these companies.

How can we keep track of transactions when the casino's name is not written? If you do many at different casinos, different names all the time, etc. Just in this way, you should be able to advertise. But I think what makes it a little more difficult may be that it has been going on for a long time and you haven't "noticed" anything until now.


I think the biggest advantage now is that probably one's name, email, phone number, cards are hopefully blocked on most casino sites like this now, so it makes it harder for one to continue playing.

That together with watching casino streamers, who rip so damn much all the time makes it easy, the ordinary people think of twitch type. Feels like it's 6 days rip, then 1 day that goes a little bit well for a while. That's roughly how it feels when you play yourself too. It's not worth it anymore.

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4 months ago

Has anyone had any dealing with Mobilumpay through Goldenbet? Looking for contact details etc. but there seem to be a few companies with the same/similar names, so not sure which is the one I'm after. Any assistance much appreciated!

fiore84
4 months ago

Did you get anywhere with these?

C2D2
4 months ago

Did you get anywhere with quickbit?

Rugbyguy82
4 months ago

Goldenbet is owned by Santeda BV.

Contact their support direct explaining that the transactions were made illegally. They will try to say they are not responsible but if you keep on at them they will relent and eventually Santeda will acknowledge, relent and refund you. This is from my Personel experience with them.

4 months ago

yes, there are a few different ways to put it up, don't know which is best.

Theoretically, I think it's crazy that it doesn't work, because we haven't done business with these companies.

How can we keep track of transactions when the casino's name is not written? If you do many at different casinos, different names all the time, etc. Just in this way, you should be able to advertise. But I think what makes it a little more difficult may be that it has been going on for a long time and you haven't "noticed" anything until now.


I think the biggest advantage now is that probably one's name, email, phone number, cards are hopefully blocked on most casino sites like this now, so it makes it harder for one to continue playing.

That together with watching casino streamers, who rip so damn much all the time makes it easy, the ordinary people think of twitch type. Feels like it's 6 days rip, then 1 day that goes a little bit well for a while. That's roughly how it feels when you play yourself too. It's not worth it anymore.

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4 months ago

There is nowhere in the payment process where we as customers are notified that we are now doing "business" with someone else other than where we entered our card numbers. That is, at the casino. They also sign that payments are made via Master/Visa cards. I'm really keen to make an appointment with the bank

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Sutton
4 months ago

Thanks for this, I realise that not all cases will be the same but keen to get as much info as possible on how you achieved it? Timescale, approach, emails sent etc etc. If you had time to fire me more information it would be very much appreciated. If not, no worries! My email is dadbod24@hotmail.com if you're willing and able to reach out

Thanks again!

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Sutton
4 months ago

Have you received a refund direct from goldenbet?

DynamoHarry
4 months ago

They will basically only announce whether the chargeback was successful or not. I would venture to say that if you haven't heard anything else (i.e. that they won't process it) within 1-2 weeks, they have gone ahead with it and sent it to the recipient's bank - and from there it can therefore take anywhere from days to months before it is solved.

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Anonymized641
4 months ago

Thinking along the same lines but will not dare! Cheers, keep us posted on how you get on.

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Anonymized641
4 months ago

However, it is stated in the T&Cs of many casinos that they use payment providers and that you approve it when depositing... if there is something to press I think, it is that they use fake MCC codes and that it would not be possible otherwise to deposit money for games at foreign casinos. Plus it's not possible for them to say that it's a "legit" deposit just because you played for them - these casinos are completely outside of all regulation and control so it's just as likely that you actually get scammed/don't get it service you pay for (rigged slots, confiscated funds, etc.). So for that reason soon you should be able to claim back all money deposited at unlicensed casinos - at least those licensed outside the eu.

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4 months ago

Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code

7 MONTHS AGO by kirekin

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BettyBetty
4 months ago

But how does it work, say the recipient's bank doesn't do a damn thing but just ignores my bank (Swedbank), what happens then?

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Sutton
4 months ago

Do you have a contact email for Santeda BV please?

4 months ago

I kept badgering WinterMDSE and received 280.00 eur refund from them yesterday

4 months ago

But how does it work, say the recipient's bank doesn't do a damn thing but just ignores my bank (Swedbank), what happens then?

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4 months ago

Do you mean if you made a chargeback?

If Swedbank accepts the chargeback, and sends it on to the card processor/payment gateway and they don't reply, you would in general win the chargeback. That's how I understood it.


But there's certain time limits how long the receiver of a chargeback have to reply to it. I don't know these times for sure.

4 months ago

Received in total abot 800 euros from below, instantgamesncards havent even replied on my emails.

info@cardcarnival.net

info@instantgamesncards.com


4 months ago

Received in total abot 800 euros from below, instantgamesncards havent even replied on my emails.

info@cardcarnival.net

info@instantgamesncards.com


4 months ago

nice, what date was the transactions made?

I have only made transactions in august 2023 to these, might be a bit too old.

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