Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (page 163)

Not everyone can handle the truth, or no one wants to hear it 😂

This has nothing to do with being true; all that is happening is that you are ruining this thread with your disrespectful trolling and disregard for very basic rules.

This ends now, I am going to ban you.

Thank you so much thank you I’m so grateful thank you xxxxxxx

they are scam i wait money 6 dager get not money .

when you ask a question, you always get the same answer, they just copy the same answers, I think they are bots, what a scam, people beware and the payments are not written as a betting shop, some clothing factories, different factories, money laundering, it's good when I reported them, the investigation is ongoing, I contacted all the services in in the world

In general his tone was condescending and disrespectful but last few days he's just been outright rude, a troll and disrespectful, not to mention he's not trying to help in any way whatsoever. Few weeks back he was trying to get people to email him to get in touch with a 'lawyer' for a fee aswell which was super shady, asking for power of attorney (never sign over power of attorney to anyone under any circumstances,especially people you don't know)

hi has anyone got a email for Santeda International B.V.  As a whole instead of all it’s sites as there not replying

Finally, a few words that you should follow...

1.

Anyone who charges back or gets their money back should be sure that they are strong enough not to gamble it away again. The chargeback only works once, and after that you will be on every black list there is. Be it the casino's internal list or the payment service provider's list. If you start playing again, it is almost impossible to get your money back.

2.

In the last few days, I have pointed out to you that you have authorized the transactions, this is correct and important for the bank. The bank is liable for an authorized transaction, and the merchant is liable for an unauthorized transaction, which is why all transactions are usually verified in the 3DS. The bank therefore does not take the risk of being left with the costs of the chargeback. In the case of a chargeback, a chargeback fee is charged for each transaction. So you can be happy that you do not have to pay any fees for a lost chargeback. Minimum €20.00 per transaction, with 20-30 transactions that adds up to quite a lot.

3.

Trolling etc.

I did not ask anyone for a power of attorney, I simply referred a lawyer free of charge. After consulting the lawyer, he asked me to refrain from referring further clients, as most of them were not able to submit the documents in an appropriate form.

4.

Ombudsman:

Do you think you are the first to go there? The ombudsman checks whether the bank has made a mistake, but this is not the case. The transaction has been verified by you and the bank has made the payment. The bank is not obliged to check the correctness of the transaction or whether the payment is illegal. The credit card serves as a substitute for cash; it is intended to speed up the payment process. So a credit card payment is a "cash payment", as if you hand someone a €20 note.

Visa chargeback / Mastercard chargeback

5.

The oft-quoted excerpt from VISA Policy 12.7: Yes, the bank could file a chargeback, why doesn’t it?

Because the payments are coded in such a way, and sectors are specified where chargebacks are not possible. Cash transfer, crypto etc. VISA and Mastercard do not process chargebacks in connection with gambling, this will also be another reason. Furthermore, you wanted to play and you could play. If you won, you would have paid out the money. You also have to remember that you may have committed a crime yourself, participating in illegal gambling in connection with money laundering. Anyone who authorizes a payment for the first time does so unknowingly, after reading this article it is knowing and intentional.

The rest are all private disputes, the bank is not responsible for them, you are free to sue the payment service provider.

6.

Gambling addiction

You have gambled away sums of money that others would spend 3-4 months working on. This doesn't just happen like "Oops, I just gambled too much." No, this is pathological and cannot just be brushed aside. There is a serious reason behind it and professional support is required.

7.

Salty Naughty

I don't think I've offended anyone, I just called a spade a spade, which many people didn't want to understand. Read the legal regulations (point 5) and you'll know what I mean.

8.

Criminal casinos

It's not just a few people sitting there and setting up a casino, it's organized gangs with similar structures. This starts with the establishment of the casino and goes all the way to the payment processing. Point 8 is another reason you have to understand. These are not normal people you're doing business with, they're criminals. They falsify evidence or simply take money out of your pocket, or simply don't pay you the money and block your account. I assume that the money you win goes into the casino's own pockets 😉 Your name in the player account can simply be replaced with X. As we all know, criminals don't give a shit about any laws 😉

Points 9 and 10 follow.

9.

Legal situation

The problem has not only existed today, it has been known for several years. A year ago I read an article about the amendment of the MCC, this was from 2010 or 2011. Wirecard was the first bank where it became public, it was simply copied by the other banks. Added to this are the outdated systems of VISA and Mastercard, which make it so easy for criminals to arrange payments. Furthermore, it is the banks in the UK and Cyprus that make it possible for criminals to arrange payments in this way. For players in Europe, the matter is a little more complex. In Germany, the providers invoke the freedom to provide services within Europe, but this has never been restricted because every country within and outside Europe can and may decide for itself whether gambling is legal or illegal. In relation to the issuing of a gambling license. The eGaming Curacao or Antillephone license is simply a certificate, it is not a real license. I could also get a license, "eKatze Gaming License" and sell it for a lot of money, but in the end it would be just as worthless.

10.

Diploma:

In my opinion, you should look for another forum, many representatives of casinos and payment service providers read here and look for the information they need. If 23 people write to the payment service providers at the same time with the same copy and paste message, then it should be clear to you why you are not getting your money back.

Radka was so arrogant when he said that the Guru team tolerates this post, so why doesn't the Casino Guru team help you by directing you to the casino? I assume that this has financial reasons, after all, this website lives from advertising revenue and profits from your losses or deposits via the referral link. Think about it for a moment 😉 When I see that people have gambled away 50k and their livelihood depends on it and the Casino Guru team does nothing, then I could puke. With this amount of money, the Guru team could definitely provide support. In addition, the casinos lack any KYC and AML. Accordingly, you can also list the casino as negative.

In the end, one must say, and you must also understand this:

You were not cheated. You paid money to the casino, probably indirectly (MCC fake), and the money was credited to your casino account. If it's gone and you've lost everything and haven't requested a withdrawal, then the casino has at most offered its service illegally. I suspect many have gambled away their money, zeroed their casino account, and now want to get a few dollars back. 😉

Radka, your fuse is quite short, I could have written this post under my old account, I just said that not everyone can handle the truth 😉 and I stand by that. I hope you feel guilty when you get dirty money from your work at Casino-Guru.

There is no email from Santeda. Contact is made via the casinos in question!

Morning Everyone

I am still looking contact details/websites for the below. Can anyone help?

• MobilePays - Bahrain
• LogicLion - Nairobi
• Gazelle Glam - Nairobi
• Petal Pulse Travel - Nairobi
• SML Save Operations Ltd
• Steam Sync Sync - Lagos
• ZPDG

Ive also had no luck with the below

• MyDates Grottobook/Dota2Store not responding
• MyDelivery - Onlinegamingstore not responding
• Blossomnet Solutions - No response to emails
• Lilytech Innovations - No response to emails
• BalonTech - No reply

I did. I managed to get my money back too.

Any luck Gazelle Glam?

ThePlatinum is part of MaguaPay

Chase issued a chargeback on the basis of no goods or services provided for pixelum.io and finnart. Just waiting to see if the merchant can prove I’ve received any goods. I send pixelum three emails and one of them asking for proof of goods and they’ve ignored me all three times. I had a claim denied with chase and Santander to begin with now both are looking into it again.

info@theplatinum.co

So far they have ignored me despite several emails

Throwing insults about is not going to get you anywhere, your coming across as a bit of a dick and a narcissist. Who are you to come on here and call people addicts when you haven't a clue about individual cases. I for one am not an addict, but you are hell bent on dragging people down with your high and mighty superiority when Infact each and every one of us have experienced something different from these rouge casinos. I for one am not chasing losses through actual gambiling I am simply asking for a return of a deposit that has actually been withheld from being returned from me by the casino and I am being ignored by said casino and account now has been blocked. I simply pointed out the fact that the transaction showed on my account as a 3rd party merchant that is actually turns out to be a clothing company. As credit cards are banned in the UK from 2020 from gambiling sites by law Which I was not aware of this fact. I simply asked the site to return my funds and they are ignoring my emails. So I contacted the Credit card company to help. So in your mind I should just roll over and take the loss. No thank you. I did not play the funds so I have grounds for a chargeback if they have used MISCODING to get around the system, after speaking with the credit card people this is illegal as I have evidence that the money left the account and ended up in the gaming account. So chargeback has been initiated by cc company. I would be careful with your words as you think you may know it all but obviously you don't, as everyones cases are treated differently with their financial institutions some win and some don't what you are quoting is from 2010 /2011 we are in 2024 the laws have changed in UK and there is a lot tighter stringent messures against money laundering and protecting against consumer rights here.

I just found it I thought it could help 🙁

Thank you anyway 🙂

I am still looking for the following providers and have already written to many of them. But unfortunately so far without success.

What payments does paymentz.io include?

Cerano

Arteluna

Bullet Skins

Headshots BYT

Dragons BYT

sknmgnte London

cubercraftclun talin

xprsera talin

keygo London

maybe someone can help 🙂

I write my posts in German, the forum may translate them automatically. Are there any problems?

@Joddd

And in comparison from 2011 to 2024, nothing has changed. VISA and Mastercard have talked big and declared war on the providers, but nothing has happened.

And if the laws are so strict, why do your banks reject the chargebacks? Because you authorized the payments, the chargebacks are done as a gesture of goodwill, not because of your laws. If you authorize a payment to these providers, then you as the cardholder are laundering money, not the bank. Therefore, we can be happy that the banks do not report us to the authorities. Regardless of whether we know what we are doing or not.

There are the protection laws for players, but there is also a payment service provider law that talks about personally authorized payments. There are always two sides to the coin.

However, you have to understand that if everyone authorizes €7,000-8,000 in 45 separate payments, then they have a problem. This doesn't just happen, it's a loss of control that needs help. Before the money comes back, you should seek help first, otherwise you might as well leave the money where it came from.

It's our fault that these criminals exist. And to be honest: anyone who has gambled away their money and lost it because they had the chance to win shouldn't do anything else, the chance was there, anyone could have paid out...

I received at least 35 emails with transaction lists and names of casinos etc. There were fresh transactions from April to June and then August, and the players knew what they were doing. Accordingly, those who do this should keep quiet and be careful when using the word scammer.

Most people only contact you because they need money for new stuff (money) so they can continue gaming.

Don't feel offended when I speak about addicts, but I am justified in saying so. I have seen the transactions, people need help beforehand before anything can be done about recovery.

And believe me, I know what I'm talking about, take my words to heart and most importantly: use your brain. Otherwise, the money you've lost will soon be the least of your problems, and you'll soon be able to find a place to sleep under a bridge somewhere, and then you'll sink to the depths.