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2 years ago by kszysio
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kassan7
1 month ago

If you read through this thread, you will find out that there are many times mentioned fake games at this casino, and we even had a warning on our website regarding that.

Now it looks like they have already fixed it and the warning was removed.

Therefore, if you can provide some evidence regarding your accusations, please do so, and I am sure that our team will have a look into that.

On the bottom of every casino review on our site, you have a tab where you can do so:

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Romi
3 weeks ago

It said that the issue had been fixed, so I decided to make another payment and test it, but it seems that they just made it impossible for the problematic provider to function, and did not officially reinstall the game.

Some users may have spoken out with evidence of fraud, which may have prompted them to remove the providers they found to be cheating.


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kassan7
3 weeks ago

Romi

It seems like nothing has changed at this casino.

https://f1casino30.club/game/e15556a9-754c-4417-a9af-81ec1ed4c8a6

This URL is called Moon Princess, but it is actually a game called Moon Princess 100.

As I mentioned in my previous post, an unusual change in design has occurred. I confirmed it on 11/29.


There is also one other strange thing.

There are two URLs for them:

https://f1casino30.club/

https://f1casino.club/


When I launch https://f1casino.club/, Moon Princess 100 does not launch.

If you launch it via https://f1casino30.club/, it will be https://f1casino30.club/game/e15556a9-754c-4417-a9af-81ec1ed4c8a6

The game works with this URL. The unusual behavior is still occurring.

It is unclear whether this move is the result of a significantly lower RTP, but this casino site is still continuing its very shady practices.


The reason why I made a deposit this time is because of Romi.

It appears that it has now been fixed and the warning removed.

Because he made such a statement.

I hope Casino Guru will investigate this casino site responsibly.


By actually playing the casino site, I was able to find evidence that it still behaves differently than normal.



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3 weeks ago

F1 Casino is clearly cheating

And the Casino Guru team didn't check them.

It seems to have been fixed now and the warning has been removed.

They make statements like this and act in a way that deceives their customers.


Are you acting with the intention of directing customers to malicious casino sites?


postscript

It seems that you were caught out by a short-term contribution to the discussion.

Radka

The contact information provided

We conducted actual game verification with two different game providers. We have provided screenshots of effects that would not normally occur.


Regarding the presentation, we have seen extremely low payouts and a behavior where the RTP is set to the highest possible level, never exceeding $2,000.


It appears that you are directing users to this malicious site as much as possible until they provide evidence.

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kassan7
3 weeks ago

hi there!

I read the whole conversation, and I'd like to make clear that you most likely misunderstood the most important part of this thread. I'd like to help you with that now:

No one, especially not Romi, has encouraged anyone that something has changed and hence that you should deposit in the casinos. Actually, all the time she has been trying polity, explaining you need to present your proofs the other way. And reminded all that the casino provided fake games in the past. This is a forum, though; we do not investigate casinos here; we take care of conversation and player's interests.

I have no reason not to trust your opinion; on the other hand, without reporting your findings properly, complaining here over and over again won't change much.

Thus, gather what you have and send it to data@casino.guru. I'm sorry to see you are unwilling to use the usual method:

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I just want you to know that many providers (not casinos), for example, prefer to stream their games from an unofficial source to avoid restricted countries and markets. This is not a fraud against players because it has nothing to do with RTP. Many favorite games are enhanced and altered graphically just to be tailored for certain countries/markets. Usually, players do not understand that and prefer to say these are clear proofs that games are "fake.".

Well, it is not that simple.

Try to calm down. Present your proofs, as we have asked you. Thank you.

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3 weeks ago

"Nobody, especially Romi, is encouraging anyone to say something has changed and that they should deposit money into the casino."


Did you read my first comment in the discussion before making that comment?

I have known for quite some time that this casino site was engaging in fraudulent activities (fake games).

The reason I posted this last week is because Casino Guru's behavior seems suspicious.

You claim to be the leading casino experts, but I see a lot of activity that seems to aid dishonest casino sites.


Romi

"It appears that it has now been fixed and the warning has been removed."

Because of this statement, I made another deposit into this casino site and verified it.

I would like to point out that you are being dishonest by making careless advertisements without verifying anything.


The reason I made the deposit and began verification was based on what Romi said.

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kassan7
3 weeks ago

Dear user,

Let's keep it calm and decent, please.

We have no proof suggesting this casino is fradulent. During the last few months, we also spotted several improvements, including a new license. Here comes the higher Safety Index from. According to our knowledge, licensed casinos simply can't provide fake games. They would not get licensed if they offered unlicensed games.

Fake game theme is a very sensitive matter - I already explained the most common complications to you.


Thus, if you are convinced this casino offers fake games to players, kindly reach out to GCB - the new casino license to get the matter investigated. We, as mediators, are in no position to investigate a casino's game origins; only the licensing authority can do that.


I would also appreciate it if you could carefully read what I just wrote to you and stop being harrasive towards Casino Guru. Obviuously, your improper tone comes from a lack of knowledge regarding the Casino Guru's range of expertise. Kindly act with respect; otherwise, this conversation will be over very soon.

I won't tolerate any other accusations. I hope that much is clear.

3 weeks ago

This time I believed what your team member said, enabled the bonus and checked again.

Extremely low actual RTP, falsified highest RTP setting, slot game with unusual behavior in terms of presentation


In a previous independent study, we used a method to increase the payouts on Wazdan's slot games using 1/2 gambling.

Since then, the behavior has not changed at all.

Reduced volatility adjustment function, 1/2 gamble never exceeds $2,000


This casino site offers some pretty impressive bonuses.

The wagering requirements for the bonus are set low.

Although it is normally easy to withdraw money, there are no withdrawal reports at all.

The reason is that the casino site is lying.

And isn't it your community that is participating in such heinous acts?

Any verification done by a user on this casino site requires the withdrawal of any money deposited.

Any reports of damage from users must be reported to the investigation department you designate.

Once users are fooled by the fake behavior, they have already parted with their valuable funds.

Normally, at this point the number of dedicated users who would go as far as to verify the product would decrease.

Even if a report is made during a discussion, the casino's leading authority does not have to lower safety indicators because the report has not been sent to the investigation department.


Did you get the F1casino affiliate link and post it?

Or maybe F1casino is offering some kind of reward for its high safety standards?


If neither of these are true, then you are also victims, but if some of the funds lost by users are indirectly being used to fund the community's operations, then aren't your responses an act of aggression?

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kassan7
3 weeks ago

Hey there.


Please do not share the latest updates per "edit post" As far as I can say, most likely, no one else besides me would capture the post changed. 🙏 You are, of course, more than welcome to spread any additional news per fresh post.


Thank you for keeping us updated!

3 weeks ago

1. As far as we know, licensed casinos cannot offer fake games. If they offered unlicensed games, they would not be licensed.


2.> For example, know that many providers (not casinos) prefer to stream games from unofficial sources to avoid restricted countries and markets. This is not a scam against players as it has nothing to do with RTP. Many popular games have their graphics enhanced and modified to suit specific countries and markets.


3. Contact the new casino licensee, GCB, and ask them to investigate the issue. As an intermediary, we are not in a position to investigate the origins of the casino games. Only the licensing body can do that.


Now, please answer my question.

I have little knowledge of casinos and games, but I believe you are knowledgeable enough about providers and how they work to call yourself an expert.


Wazdan games usually have a feature that allows players to set the volatility in three stages.

Regarding this function, is it possible for the casino site to delete (fix) the function itself at the implementation stage?

Also, in my past testing, I have never been able to exceed $2,000 with a 1/2 gamble. This is an unusual behavior due to the nature of the 1/2 gamble.


Regarding 2., I have already reported the behavior of the game Moon Princess to the team that reports problems or suggests improvements, but I have a question I would like to ask here.

When I checked the developer tools, it showed an RTP of 96% in demo play, but the RTP was hidden in real play.

I have only had experience playing with Play'n Go's extremely low RTP's up to 91% of the time.

Therefore, we cannot say for certain about this, but under the normal presentation rules up to 91%, we have not been able to confirm any rules that would cause high-payout symbols to change to low-payout symbols or disappear.

If the RTP falls below that, will there be any special effects?

Wazdan clearly stated their RTP, so from what I have verified, I believe they are cheating.

As far as I know, Play'n Go is unable to confirm the RTP of F1casino, so I wonder if this is possible if the RTP is significantly lower.


I looked at several sites run by WoT NV, and they all advertised large bonuses, but the wagering requirements for those bonuses were often low and easy to clear.

But how many users are actually able to meet the conditions and withdraw large amounts?

Even to my level of knowledge, the bonuses they are advertising are far too abnormally high.

Although withdrawals are easily attainable, many users are citing issues with the RTP rather than reporting wins.


3. I don't know how to report to the GCB, and I'm not a heavy user. Even if I reported it for fake RTP, I don't think I'd get my money back.

However, I think that those of you who call yourself casino gurus would benefit from keeping the safety index of this casino site high and intact.

I suppose they might say that the information I provided to the investigative department this time is not enough.

I don't want any more users in the community to suffer further damage, so I focused on the fact that CasinoGuru's safety index is unreasonably high. I had some free time today, so I played a little bit and just wanted to report that F1Casino hasn't changed at all since the old days.

I think that if the leading experts in casino gurus would do even a little research, many users would be spared from becoming victims.

I'm sure you also have a desire to increase the safety index.

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3 weeks ago

We also checked the Marvel Casino discussion

From the latest posting, it seems that Marvel Casino has game providers that are not available from certain countries?


Radka himself seems to have answered that there is no ability to validate slots.

I see... I think that's a pretty convenient system for you guys.

While a little knowledge and a willingness to actually play the game can solve this problem, it is community policy not to respond to fake game reports.


So I'm wondering which way your safety index is headed. WoT NV can thank the casino gurus for their code of conduct.

Unfortunate users are getting "casino access" through this site.

I am one of them, and I have decided to donate valuable funds to WoT NV.

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kassan7
3 weeks ago

I am unable to respond to your specific inquiries; I am only able to make assumptions, which I would rather not do.

Inform the licensing authority of what you have discovered. In contrast to Casino Guru, the authority can ask for the game's source codes and look into its legitimacy. This is the crutial point, because we can't do that.

Like players, we rely on licensing authority investigations to determine the legitimacy of games.

Therefore, the warning is added and the Safety Index is appropriately discussed and modified based on the circumstances only if the authorities confirm that the games are in fact fake in some way. Yet first someone must prove what you are suggesting. There is never a change in this principle.

For instance, if you suspect fraud, you call the police, and they look into it to see how serious the crime is. All parties involved do not attend the trial until the evidence has been collected and verified.

The jury decides the punishment for each of the parties involved. Punishments are never the first step, are they?

As with any other similar site, we review only matters within our expertise. What we are discussing is more of a domain of game providers. Not ours.


However, everything stays visible here on the forum, where such information belongs, to assist other participants in forming their opinions from your point of view.

Therefore, if players would rather think the games are phony, they are free to avoid playing at this casino. No problem with that.

3 weeks ago

At the bottom of every casino review on our site you will find tabs where you can:

I have already reported this here, but you are not planning to act on the basis of my report, are you?

To what extent will reporting to licensing authorities be done on behalf of players?

I have already put a lot of money into this casino site multiple times, playing fake games without realizing it, and after I became suspicious, I lost it again while trying to verify it myself.

And Romi said, "It appears to have been fixed now and the warning has been removed."

I trusted this and made a deposit, but was deceived again.


I have already been deceived twice by this casino site and your comments and suffered the consequences.

I have done everything I can here to lower the safety index, but I don't have the energy to even contact the licensee.

Because what I've lost is irretrievable and there's not much benefit to me in reporting the license.

However, I have sent the results of my testing to the Casino Guru research department listed by Romi and Radka .

Testing how this casino works will only take you 30 minutes, although you will lose some money.

Try out some Bonus Buys on a few games for minimal amounts of money and you'll instantly understand how they compare to trustworthy casino sites.


On top of that, I would like you to ask the licensee to investigate whether the game is fake.

Well, I think it's better to have a higher safety index, so I don't think there's much point in saying anything more.

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kassan7
3 weeks ago

Well, I understand your approach, and I'm not saying the methodology is perfect, but it is certainly not the worst.

Faked or altered games are not part of the Safety Index, because we can't investigate them. We have an external team of testers; those people test casinos investing our money, but it is not enough to recognize what is normally called "fake games."

The Safety Index on the other hand, consists of other measureable features and expresses the likelihood that the win will be paid to palyer. That's the score for.

In the past, we believed this casino had a set of faked games, but as long as we can't officially confirm that, the warning is not present anymore. Meanwhile, the casino has become licensed, which at 99% excludes using "faked" games.

I'm sorry to say it, but I agree—not much to add to these points. Unless you accept, we are not capable of confirming games origins. We are not game providers.

3 weeks ago

So the games have a lot of bonus features thrown out plus they don't have rng how do you know!? Very simply, enter any normal casino for a game from apathetic and you will see the random numbers up in the corner, in this casino they do not exist. I have been playing online casino for many years and I can tell what is a fake game. Plus they give you extremely high bonuses daily with a very low wager and what do you think you can never unlock it

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pamelapop9105
3 weeks ago

I believe that it would be really helpful if you could find the difference between a fake and a real game.

You should always contact the licensing authority whenever you spot something like this. It is they who control these kinds of things at online casinos, you know. But if a casino operates without a license, it is really difficult to deal with it. Sometimes it is good to let the game provider know as well.

Unfortunately, we can't do much ourselves; it is out of our hands.

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