Casinia Casino - general discussion (page 19)

... 18 pages of discussion, unresolved customer complaints here & at AskG, as well as at the sister casinos.

Instead of warning of caution in red above, an 8.3 out of 10 shines in friendly green and helps prevent others from losing money and not receiving their winnings.

In my case it's only 75 euros, open for 4 weeks, given the unresolved complaints and the small amount, a complaint makes no sense.

I actually think highly of CasinoGuru and consider you, for example, LCB, to be reputable operators. I also understand that you have to pay your employees, etc., and that casinos like this certainly pay high bonuses, but the way things are now, you're supporting fraud because, for example, newbies see your rating, think it's reputable, and end up not getting their winnings. I've learned to check AskG, in addition to CG, for unresolved complaints before I deposit, but probably only 5% do that.

Presumably the casino could have hundreds of thousands of "black dots" and still not be red... 🙁

Hi!

Hold on, for a second - perhaps there is a sort of missunderstanding. There has been no uresolved complaints against this casino:

https://casino.guru/complaints/all

Have you by chance mistaken that with forum posts or user reviews which has nothing to do with the rating?

I mean, your idea is good - if there had been unresolved complaints the rating would have been lower in proportion to the severenity of the complaints - represented by black points.

However, as you can see all reported problems have always been resolved. As far as we can say based on the complaint you mentioned, the casino pays. I also could not find a single unresolved complaint submitted by you.

May I know, where the catch seems to be?

Hello Radka 🙂

Sorry if I expressed myself in a confusing way.

There are unresolved complaints on AskG, https://www.askgamblers.com/de/online-casinos/test/casinia-casino/complaints

There are also serious points that speak against the seriousness, for example TrustPilot, that the casino has an extremely high number of cases on AskG compared to its small size (which is probably why it only gets a 4 out of 10 rating) and an extremely long response time of 8 days, i.e. after a warning.

And if you rightly show users the unresolved issues of sister casinos with the same management when you list them as "Unsolved," I also find it unrealistic not to credit this to this casino as well, especially since it's only a matter of time. It seems to have only been like this recently with AskG, before they reacted.

And when they withhold €75 from me (for weeks now, I've only been getting emails saying they'll forward it again with "highest priority"), that gives you a good idea of what's going on there right now. Either you're "saving" on amounts of, say, less than €100 because you know no one will take action (and, say, 75 black points won't do anything for you), or you have more serious problems, which can happen quickly at smaller casinos.

Lg

Hello, and thanks for the explanation. I should have started with the point explaining that I can add my or let's say demonstrate CG optics to that subject. My bad, sorry. 🙂

Well, I guess every player may use the whole internet to create an opinion on a casino. My colleagues, instead of that, consider evaluated situations. Based on our experiences with the external sources, we chose this way.

However, I know there is a person tracking external complaints—not TP reviews, because their policies are absurd. As long as they allow players to review Casino Guru for not paying out the winnings or delaying withdrawals, that's besides the point. 😀

However, you are correct; the more sources players aim to seek, the better, and we have never presented our website as the only way to get familiar with casinos.

When it comes to black points, those are "awarded" only for unresolved complaints, which is not usually very appreciated. However, if you check any casino review—not just the number—you will see the latest complaints directly there, so once you spot an unresolved complaint, I guess it is a fair clue. Also, sister sides are included, as you can see:

I understand the website is very complex, and browsing all reviews, tabs, or even forums, or understanding what the Safety Index actually means, is not an easy task.

Safety Index also takes into consideration the casinos scale, so what would not affect a bigger international casino may ruin a smaller, local online casino based on the amount of the black points awarded.

I understand the feeling that each Safety Index needs to correspond with the "general opinion." Yet the experiences differ; hence, it is not possible to reach that goal.

Thus, we ask players to express their experiences—good or bad—on the forum, through the reviews, and so on.

Let me know if you want to delve deeper.