HomeComplaintsEnzo Casino - Player’s winnings have been confiscated due to 30% maximum bet rule.

Enzo Casino - Player’s winnings have been confiscated due to 30% maximum bet rule.

Black points: 2480

Amount: €2,600

Enzo Casino
Safety Index:Very low
Submitted: 14 Mar 2021 | Unresolved : 14 May 2021
Unresolved Our verdict

Against fair gambling

UNRESOLVED

Case summary

3 years ago

The player from Germany had her winnings cancelled due to placing a bet greater than 30% of the deposit. This is an unfair rule and we were forced to close this complaint as 'unresolved'.

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3 years ago
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So I say I had no bonus or anything else only real money but my winnings would not be paid out until I had two accounts with enzo so it was canceled I didn't accept that and did theater and then all of a sudden it was called irregular play and that would be in the terms and conditions so you are not allowed to bid high as you want but according to their rules, so please watch out and play in another casino enzo is really not recommended these rules that I have experienced for the first time and read the terms and conditions correctly


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3 years ago

Dear Fulya,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Unfortunately, I’m not able to assist you with this case based on the current description of events and I will need definitely more information. Could you please elaborate?

I hope we will be able to help you to resolve your problem as soon as possible. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Petronela

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3 years ago
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So I had deposited 4 times 50 euros at enzo casino with the first 3 50 euros I was not lucky with the last deposit I was lucky and had a profit of 2600 or even more, only I wanted to pay out 2600, whatever was possible I had to upload my documents, which I also did. I also received a confirmation that the payout is now being processed. After receiving my documents, it would take 4-7 working days and then after 7 days I asked again in the chat what about the payout because nothing came then I was told because of fraud it would be canceled because I had two accounts at enzo casino

And I didn't accept that and said if that's the case then I should. They also don't accept deposits from both accounts, but they came across they committed fraud because I said that I would pass it on to the lawyer and after a few days I asked again in the chat what about the payout, this time they said they were playing irregularly I would have broken what is in the terms and conditions, so my winnings would be deleted. I have never heard this irregular game and I also did not understand what it should be

I have documented everything my win I also have as a screenshot, I also have the chats on screenshots, but I just don't understand how they can simply cancel it

Mfg Fulya


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3 years ago

Thank you very much, Fulya, for your reply. Could you please advise if, to the best of your knowledge, there’s a possibility that someone else from your family members or neighbours has opened an account from the same IP address or device as yours? 

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3 years ago
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The one with the second account is correct but it was deleted is okay, only the account exists where I had a profit but the reason why I did not get it paid out is because I would have played an irregular game so I would have bid too much I was told that

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3 years ago

Do I understand correctly that you have been accused of placing bets greater than the allowed ones while playing with the real money (no active bonus)? Looking forward to hearing from you.

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3 years ago
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Exactly that is what I am accused of had only played with real money I therefore did not understand why I am not allowed to bid with my money what I have paid in as I would like I also made my loss had won something with 3200 and played down to 2600 and I wanted to pay this out, whatever went, I just got a mail that I should verify myself and then I did that and then I was told that it could take 4-7 days everything was ok until then I just waited did nothing else until I asked in the chat what about my winnings


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3 years ago

Thank you very much, Fulya, for your reply. I have checked the Terms and Conditions but I didn't find any rule which would restrict the maximum bet for the real money play. However, I have found the following rule https://www.enzocasino.com/general-terms-conditions/?lang=en:

"If a player's accumulated deposit amount does not exceed €200, player will be entitled only up to X10 last deposit. This maximum payout will be enforced also in cases where the player made additional deposits which were deemed at the sole discretion of the Casino to have been made in order to exceed the €200 accumulated deposit amount."


Could you please advise if your winnings have been capped/reduced or confiscated completely? Looking forward to hearing from you.


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3 years ago
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So I deposited 4 times 50 euros and as I said with my 4 deposit I made a profit over 3000 played down to 2600 this also paid out but my entire profit was canceled and my last deposit of 50 euros was credited again but I could do not pay out because the minimum payout was 100 euros, then I gambled away mfg so nothing was paid out everything was canceled

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3 years ago

Do I understand correctly that you have played all your funds?

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3 years ago
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So I didn't get my win they confiscated it

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3 years ago
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So the 2600 have not paid out Werder, I could continue to play with them, they were simply deleted

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3 years ago

Do I understand correctly that your entire winnings have been cancelled. How much is your active balance at the moment?

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3 years ago
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Where do I see that I don't know

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3 years ago
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I only got 0.02 cents on that. account


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3 years ago
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Yes, all of my profit has been canceled

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3 years ago

Are there any emails from the casino that you could forward to petronela.k@casino.guru?

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3 years ago
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I sent you the emails

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3 years ago

Thank you very much, Fulya, for your emails. I understand now.

I have checked general BONUS terms and conditions, and this is what I found https://www.enzocasino.com/bonus-terms-conditions/?lang=en:


"The Casino reserves the right to withhold any withdrawals and/or confiscate all winnings and Bonuses for irregular play. "Irregular play" may include, but is not limited to:

·        Placing single bets equal to or greater than 30% of the value of the smallest bonus credited to the player account, prior to the total wager requirement for that balance having been met

·        Placing single bets equal to or higher than 30% of the most recent deposit in play, if it is smaller than the bonus. This max bet limit applies to all players even if no bonus is received, or if the Total Wager Requirement has been cleared."

 

I must emphasize that citing a rule for a real money play under bonus conditions is highly customer unfriendly. Why would a player who didn’t redeem any promotional offer even click on the bonus rules?

Could you please confirm once again that you didn’t activate any bonus with your last €50 deposit? Are you aware of placing any bets greater than €14,50? Looking forward to hearing from you.

 

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3 years ago
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So I didn't have a bonus on my last deposit because I always hate to make this turnover with bonus so I'm actually very sure that I didn't have a bonus and yes, I wagered more than 15 euros when playing

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3 years ago
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I sent you a screenshot on the email from the transaction I placed too much then I said then they should cancel my profit from the transaction and pay out the profit before this transaction that would still have been 1900 euros but they have that also confiscated

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3 years ago

Thank you very much, Fulya, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Martin who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

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3 years ago
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OK thanks

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3 years ago

Hello Fulya!


From now on, I will try my best to help you with this issue. I would like to invite Enzo Casino into the discussion.

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3 years ago
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Thanks for your help, I think it's just cheeky and rubbish that you deal with the players like that. I like to gamble in the internet casino but like enzo casino I wouldn't have ripped off the rules that I would have never seen before, I would never have thought that there is such a thing

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3 years ago
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And what else had there ever been such a thing at enzo casino where I did not think anything because I did not know exactly whether 5 or 10 euro bonus money was credited to my account had played with it and made a profit but I know Now not exactly how much that was but it was also 4 digits more than 1000 in any case they would also be canceled because I only know my battery was empty and want to log in again and then only saw 0 euros on the account


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3 years ago

Hello all


We checked game logs of Bebis08 and see that she has made several overbets during the course of the gameplay.


Game logs can be provided if requested.


Regards


Compliance - Enzo Casino

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3 years ago
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But you can't ston the whole thing

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3 years ago

Hello!


I would like to ask Enzo Casino's representatives to provide us respective supporting evidence via email. You can reach me on: 'martin.d@casino.guru'.

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3 years ago

Hello


Game log has been sent


Regards


Compliance - Enco Casino

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3 years ago
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Is there any more of them coming here

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3 years ago

Hello!


I can confirm that according to the document provided by the casino, the player has indeed made bets in excess of the amount stated in the terms and conditions of the casino.

However, we consider this kind of rules unfair and therefore I'd like to ask Enzo Casino's representatives to reevaluate their decision and forgive the player this time and consider this issue as a warning.


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3 years ago

We would like to ask Enzo Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’, which will have negative impact on the casino's rating.

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3 years ago

We are sorry but we are unable to make special exceptions for individual members.


Regards


Compliance - Enzo Casino

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3 years ago
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Then what I won before the overbett pays

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3 years ago
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And I asked in the chat at enzo casino about this irregular game before I opened the case. The staff of enzo casino chat said that it only applies to the people who receive a bonus. You can bet as high as you like if you don't have a bonus have everything on screenshots why did you make this statement to me when it goes against the rules


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3 years ago

Hello Fulya!


Could you please forward aforementioned screenshots to my email? You can reach me here: 'martin.d@casino.guru'.

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Just sent the screenshots

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Have you received the screenshots

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3 years ago

Hello Fulya!


I have received the screenshots, thank you very much for providing them. And I can confirm that you were told that 30% max bet rule only applies for free bonuses.


I would like to ask Enzo Casino's representatives to comment on this situation. I am aware that in terms and conditions there is stated that 30% maximum bets applies to real money as well, however the player was given a different information by one of your customer support representatives.

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3 years ago
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Why does an answer take so long?

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3 years ago

Hello Martin


We have investigated player's correspondence with our agents and see that they have clearly explained the rule of irregular betting.


Transcripts of correspondence could be sent if necessary.


Regards


Compliance - Enzo Casino

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I have it on screenshots and asked without logging in

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Please at enzo casino because I was told in black and white that it only applies to bonuses

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I would like to ask Enzo Casino's representatives to check the screenshots provided by the player and give us any explanation of this situation.

Also, please forward any aforementioned correspondence to my email address: 'martin.d@casino.guru'.

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3 years ago
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I connected in the chat without logging in to ask what the irregular game is all about because I didn't understand it and as you can see on the screenshots, I was told that it only applies to freebonus

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You’re definitely looking for something new so as not to pay it off, but I’m not giving up on how long this case should take

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I have everything on screenshots

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3 years ago

We would like to point out that player has 2 distinct accounts on Enzo casino, screenshots shown by player are from an account with username: "Fulay08".


Chat shown on screenshots happened on 10th of February when her winnings were voided on 4th of February.


We acknowledge a mistake of our agent and will take actions to for this kind of mistakes to never happen again.


Also we would like to mention that when player was asked on 10th of February whether or not she had an account on Enzo casino she denied it which in fact is not truth.


All correspondence with dates including the chat seen on screenshots have been sent to "martin.d@casino.guru".


Regards


Compliance - Enzo Casino

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3 years ago
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Yes that with the second account is correct but I wasn't aware of that as I am registered in many different online casinos, I had lost track of things, but that was not that I requested it with the other account, I had not registered at all and just me Connected to the chat without an account to know what the irregular play means that with the second account you had already deleted and that was the first thing you said to cancel the money because I explained to you that it wasn’t for me ht was aware that I had two accounts with you and said but the statement from your employees is that it is only valid for bonus and the screenshots are my proof I will pass it on to my lawyer if it is not resolved here that is a fraud what you are and make a lie that I do it with mine. I swept another account then send the co-workers from the account because it is probably not displayed

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I viwlleu ht used my other email address in the chat that may be but you had already deleted the account where I asked you what the irregular play was all about because I did not understand it and now it has nothing to do with him to do the statement is statement and i think it is a reason to pay out my money

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And I asked the question without registering so that I would have the confirmation and then would have accepted that they would withhold my winnings, but the statement was against it

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And what about what do you think of the allegations from enzo casino

Mfg Fulya

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3 years ago

Hello Fulya!


The casino has provided us with a history of conversations, which proves the point that the agent claiming this rule works only for free bonuses happened after your winnings were voided.

I would like to address here, that situations like these do not contribute towards anything good, this kind of misleading players should not happen at any point, especially given the fact, that majority of the players tend not to read whole T&Cs of casinos.

However, Enzo Casino has their rules clearly written and you agreed with them when registering. This does not change our position with regards to this case, we strongly believe that rules like these are unfair and predatory.

As the casino's decision seems to be final, we will have no other choice than mark this complaint as 'unresolved' and 'against fair gambling codex'.

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Like what is that because she only works for free bonuses ....

And it was clearly stated that the rule for irregular play without a bonus can be used as you like ...

And that's not my problem if she gave wrong information ..

I also bid incorrectly according to the terms and conditions, which was explained to me differently later after the cancellation

How else because I wanted to know why they canceled my winnings I wrote that above

I find it really unacceptable I will take legal action I will do everything that no more players deposit money for azzi casinos like enzo ts casinos ...


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3 years ago

Hello Fulya!


Despite our best efforts, the casino hasn't their mind and we have no other choice than close this complaint as 'unresolved'.

Both sides can reopen this complaint at any time, should there be any change.

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