The player from India has been accused of dishonest gaming activity. Casino forfeited all winnings generated from bonus play.
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Dear CHANUMOLU5952,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and forwarding all the relevant communication. Could you please specify which bonus was in play? Could you send us a link?
I have checked the general bonus terms and conditions, and this is what I found:
„17. Certain bets are considered risk-free / low-risk and are therefore excluded. Examples of risk-free / low-risk betting are: * Betting red and black on roulette (and all other equal bets) * Bets on over 50% of roulette numbers. * Team play with other players. Any attempt to manipulate / abuse the games and / or the promotion will result in the loss of any prize and the player will be disqualified for the campaign. Included, but not limited to, risk-free betting with guaranteed winnings, regardless of the outcome. If the system recognizes them as valid, we reserve the right to cancel any winnings released in this way, as well as any potential losses for the organizer. We reserve the right in case of unscrupulous actions by a player or group of players in order to illegally take advantage, to deduct any positive balance from the gaming account of the participating customer, which is received as a result of illegal actions, and the amount of possible losses suffered."
I would like to emphasize, that according to our Fair Gambling Codex, https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-casinos#betting-patterns, we consider cases in which casinos use the 'betting patterns' rule to confiscate player's winnings to be unfair.
Hopefully, I will be able to help you with this case as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Kristina
Dear CHANUMOLU5952,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and forwarding all the relevant communication. Could you please specify which bonus was in play? Could you send us a link?
I have checked the general bonus terms and conditions, and this is what I found:
„17. Certain bets are considered risk-free / low-risk and are therefore excluded. Examples of risk-free / low-risk betting are: * Betting red and black on roulette (and all other equal bets) * Bets on over 50% of roulette numbers. * Team play with other players. Any attempt to manipulate / abuse the games and / or the promotion will result in the loss of any prize and the player will be disqualified for the campaign. Included, but not limited to, risk-free betting with guaranteed winnings, regardless of the outcome. If the system recognizes them as valid, we reserve the right to cancel any winnings released in this way, as well as any potential losses for the organizer. We reserve the right in case of unscrupulous actions by a player or group of players in order to illegally take advantage, to deduct any positive balance from the gaming account of the participating customer, which is received as a result of illegal actions, and the amount of possible losses suffered."
I would like to emphasize, that according to our Fair Gambling Codex, https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-casinos#betting-patterns, we consider cases in which casinos use the 'betting patterns' rule to confiscate player's winnings to be unfair.
Hopefully, I will be able to help you with this case as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Kristina
I am used welcome bonus that is 100%
My deposit amount 30k and get bonus 26k.
Please get my beting history and just ask them example of bets consider as a low risk bets
I am used welcome bonus that is 100%
My deposit amount 30k and get bonus 26k.
Please get my beting history and just ask them example of bets consider as a low risk bets
Thank you very much CHANUMOLU5952 for your reply. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Matej who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Thank you very much CHANUMOLU5952 for your reply. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Matej who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Hello CHANUMOLU5952.
From the screenshots you shared with us it does not look like you made a low-risk roulette betting. However, we need to examine your game log in full. (if you have it please send it to matej@casino.guru)
I would like to ask the casino to help is us in this case, please send me the player's game log for further investigation.
Hello CHANUMOLU5952.
From the screenshots you shared with us it does not look like you made a low-risk roulette betting. However, we need to examine your game log in full. (if you have it please send it to matej@casino.guru)
I would like to ask the casino to help is us in this case, please send me the player's game log for further investigation.
Hi,
I am placed so many requests for game log but they didn't respond well.and they lock my account.
Present I don't login site.
Will you please contact the casino regards this.
Hi,
I am placed so many requests for game log but they didn't respond well.and they lock my account.
Present I don't login site.
Will you please contact the casino regards this.
Hi Matej,
If they says that's there final decision then please take a proof of 5 game rounds for example which bets are considered.
Hi Matej,
If they says that's there final decision then please take a proof of 5 game rounds for example which bets are considered.
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Hello CHANUMOLU5952.
The casino representatives contacted me via Skype and send evidence that shows that you built up your balance on roulette with bets covering most of the numbers. Such a strategy is not allowed.
„17. Certain bets are considered risk-free / low-risk and are therefore excluded. Examples of risk-free / low-risk betting are: * Betting red and black on roulette (and all other equal bets) * Bets on over 50% of roulette numbers. * Team play with other players. Any attempt to manipulate / abuse the games and / or the promotion will result in the loss of any prize and the player will be disqualified for the campaign. Included, but not limited to, risk-free betting with guaranteed winnings, regardless of the outcome. If the system recognizes them as valid, we reserve the right to cancel any winnings released in this way, as well as any potential losses for the organizer. We reserve the right in case of unscrupulous actions by a player or group of players in order to illegally take advantage, to deduct any positive balance from the gaming account of the participating customer, which is received as a result of illegal actions, and the amount of possible losses suffered."
In your gameplay, you were covering 26-28 numbers from 37, which is not allowed.
Hello CHANUMOLU5952.
The casino representatives contacted me via Skype and send evidence that shows that you built up your balance on roulette with bets covering most of the numbers. Such a strategy is not allowed.
„17. Certain bets are considered risk-free / low-risk and are therefore excluded. Examples of risk-free / low-risk betting are: * Betting red and black on roulette (and all other equal bets) * Bets on over 50% of roulette numbers. * Team play with other players. Any attempt to manipulate / abuse the games and / or the promotion will result in the loss of any prize and the player will be disqualified for the campaign. Included, but not limited to, risk-free betting with guaranteed winnings, regardless of the outcome. If the system recognizes them as valid, we reserve the right to cancel any winnings released in this way, as well as any potential losses for the organizer. We reserve the right in case of unscrupulous actions by a player or group of players in order to illegally take advantage, to deduct any positive balance from the gaming account of the participating customer, which is received as a result of illegal actions, and the amount of possible losses suffered."
In your gameplay, you were covering 26-28 numbers from 37, which is not allowed.
Hi Matej,
As they said 26-28 no are covered ok I agree but as a player it's my decision.
If I am placed INR 100/- on 28 numbers out of 37
Then my total bet value is 28*100=2800/-
If I loss my loss is:2800/-
If I won my win is:800/-
Here my loss percentage is:3.5X on my Winning.
In this play my winning is less as compared if I loss.
High risk vs high probability
Low risk vs low probability....
1)casino days,
2)Rizk casino,
3)europa casino,
4)royal panda,
5)leo Vegas casino,
6) bet way and number of casino no casino has that rule .
Will you please confirm this a rule from game providers/casino.
Here I am winning that the main problem...
If I loss know one will rise question make deposits then accepted..
Please send the one example evidence to me
Hi Matej,
As they said 26-28 no are covered ok I agree but as a player it's my decision.
If I am placed INR 100/- on 28 numbers out of 37
Then my total bet value is 28*100=2800/-
If I loss my loss is:2800/-
If I won my win is:800/-
Here my loss percentage is:3.5X on my Winning.
In this play my winning is less as compared if I loss.
High risk vs high probability
Low risk vs low probability....
1)casino days,
2)Rizk casino,
3)europa casino,
4)royal panda,
5)leo Vegas casino,
6) bet way and number of casino no casino has that rule .
Will you please confirm this a rule from game providers/casino.
Here I am winning that the main problem...
If I loss know one will rise question make deposits then accepted..
Please send the one example evidence to me
Hi,
I need one information is this rule (or) objection was made by a game providers (or) casino
Hi,
I need one information is this rule (or) objection was made by a game providers (or) casino
This rule is from the casino terms.
This rule is from the casino terms.
Hi Matej,
I am contacting the game providers and professional ROULETTE game player and experts in ROULETTE game all of them saying the this type strategy is allowed.
If any casino not allowed this strategy all of them suggest me that is bad casino.
I want to alert the other players.
Nobody faces this type of problem likes me
Hi Matej,
I am contacting the game providers and professional ROULETTE game player and experts in ROULETTE game all of them saying the this type strategy is allowed.
If any casino not allowed this strategy all of them suggest me that is bad casino.
I want to alert the other players.
Nobody faces this type of problem likes me
Unfortunately, we were not able to convince the casino representatives that the rule which they applied, in this case, is unfair.
Forbid players to bet on more than 50% of the table from a mathematical perspective doesn't make sense. The casino always has a house edge on its side. This rule can be accepted only if enforced by the software, actively preventing players from covering more than 50% of the table.
We believe that in this case casino should pay the player the full amount.
Because the casino's decided not to pay the player, we are forced to close this complaint with classification: against fair gambling codex.
The complaint will negatively impact the casino rating and will be visible to other players as a warning.
Unfortunately, we were not able to convince the casino representatives that the rule which they applied, in this case, is unfair.
Forbid players to bet on more than 50% of the table from a mathematical perspective doesn't make sense. The casino always has a house edge on its side. This rule can be accepted only if enforced by the software, actively preventing players from covering more than 50% of the table.
We believe that in this case casino should pay the player the full amount.
Because the casino's decided not to pay the player, we are forced to close this complaint with classification: against fair gambling codex.
The complaint will negatively impact the casino rating and will be visible to other players as a warning.
We’ve reopened this complaint as per the casino's request. We would like to give this case one more chance to get resolved and help both involved parties to reach to a satisfactory conclusion.
CHANUMOLU5952, please confirm that you are in contact with the casino.
We’ve reopened this complaint as per the casino's request. We would like to give this case one more chance to get resolved and help both involved parties to reach to a satisfactory conclusion.
CHANUMOLU5952, please confirm that you are in contact with the casino.
Hi Matej,
Yes i am contacting the casino they provide me solution for my case with mutual understanding...
Hi Matej,
Yes i am contacting the casino they provide me solution for my case with mutual understanding...
Can you please confirm that you received the payment, and we can close the case as resolved?
Can you please confirm that you received the payment, and we can close the case as resolved?
Yes...
I am received my funds,...
Please close this issue
Yes...
I am received my funds,...
Please close this issue
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