HomeComplaintsWhite Lion Casino - Player’s withdrawal was cancelled due to a strict maximum bet rule.

White Lion Casino - Player’s withdrawal was cancelled due to a strict maximum bet rule.

Amount: €6,000

White Lion Casino
Safety Index:Very low
Submitted: 01 Dec 2019 | Resolved : 09 Mar 2024
Resolved Our verdict

Case closed

RESOLVED

Case summary

8 months ago

The player requested a withdrawal of €6000 but it was cancelled. The reason for this is, that the casino enforces a maximum bet rule for regular play. The casino and the player found a compromise, the complaint was resolved.

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4 years ago
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Hi, they canceled my 6000 euro withdrawal. I paid 150 they say that I broke the regulation that is 30 percent of the deposit wagered ... the disputed bet and 40 plus 20 blackjack insurance between the other loser .... then I won 6000 euros regular to the slots .. .. then they call me offering me 300 euros always playing at 30 x cent ... I respect all the withdrawal 1000 euros ... but they keep saying that I have to pay and increase the level of the game ... I'm desperate ... then they shout on the phone can you help me ??? i took the photos to the conversations

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4 years ago

Dear Gianluca,

Thank you for contacting Casino Guru and bringing this issue to our attention. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience. I looked at the casino’s T&Cs and found the maximum bet rule: 

"Placing single bets equal to or higher than 30% of the most recent deposit in play, if it is smaller than the bonus. This max bet limit applies to all players even if no bonus is received, or if the Total Wager Requirement has been cleared."

Casinos can, of course, form their own T&Cs and set their own rules for the game play. However, we strongly disagree with the maximum bet rule for regular play and find it unfair. It will be difficult to reason with the casino in this matter, but we will do our best to try and help you. I will contact the casino and we will see what their standpoint is, do you agree?

Best regards,

Peter

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4 years ago
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I agree contact them and hopefully good

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4 years ago

We would like to ask White Lion Casino to reply to this complaint.

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Yes thank you very much we hope well

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4 years ago
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Please help me thank you. At least if we find an agreement ... it is a scam also because the disputed play is 40 euros plus 20 insurance among others I pressed by mistake ... so if I won I won 40 ... so I did not exceed 30 x percent of the payment 150. Do you advise if you can't make a complaint to the Italian authorities?

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And anyway it is a single game ... in specific terms and conditions that must be a clear and repeated thing ... so I assume it's a scam casino

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At least if they can give me the transfer at least half, I accept it.

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Hi have you contacted the casino ?? Is there anything new?

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Even if it were .... I paid 150 euros .... I bet 40 .... then the bank had ace out ... and I accepted 20 euros insurance .... if I won I would have won cmq 40 euros. ... then the bet was a loser .... for me the bet was 40 ... the insurance is worth the bet ??? Please help me .... is there a possibility to make a complaint ???

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4 years ago
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Hello new? The play was thus reported. I give cards I point 40 .... then I go out I do insurance 20 ... I lose .... if I win I would have won 40 ... bet limit 45 .... so according to you nn is cmq bet 40 ?? They cheated me

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Hi then cmq the bet was to another game. At that slot I bet regularly ... in the non-specific terms then the 6000 euros are regular

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Hi news ?? As I told you I documented .... I bet 40 .... then insurance 20 ... if I won I won 80 ..... so anyway bet is 40 ... help me please let me restore 6000 euros. .. and cmq in Europe the limit bet nn is illegal ??

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4 years ago

Hi Gianluca,

Thank you for your replies and patience. I asked a casino rep to take a look at your complaint, but haven't received any response yet. Today I wrote an email to the casino support. I will let you know as soon as there is something new.

Best regards,

Peter

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Thanks, I look forward to good news. Also because it was really a scam

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Still nothing? Is there any possibility of putting lawyers?

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Hi, the casino contacted me. We found a satisfactory deal for both of us. Thanks to the monica operator really competent and kind. As soon as I have the agreed money on the card I will continue to play on this casino. Case currently resolved

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Thanks to the casino operator of the casino all solved. Well you really the top. Casino has regained my confidence

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Hi Gianluca,

I'm glad to hear the casino offered you a compromis. Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution center.  We will now close the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. Should you need any further help, feel free to contact us.

Best regards,

Peter

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4 years ago

We’ve reopened this complaint as per the player’s request. We would like to give this case one more chance to get resolved and help both involved parties to reach to a satisfactory conclusion.

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Yes thank you very much ... if you help me I reopened the case following strange phone calls that made me ... and convincing me to accept their proposal ... but documenting me I think I'm in good standing ... I would like the whole sum or almost to this point. Thanks so much

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I am disappointed that cmq first make strange promises .. then change version .... I ask you to let me credit the remaining 5100 euros .. .900 me have them given. First 500 and then 400 that never approved as per pact ... and then I replayed them .... and after I told them that the pact cmq nn l had respected .. and that I would have reopened the case with you me them they have data ... but cmq consulting me with an Italian lawyer I am in rule since 'the episode that I contest cmq and' of euro 40 ... more insurance 20 ... deposit 150 ... therefore it tells me the legal cmq I won 80 .... then bet 40 and then adjust .. and then in terms nn ce written that the balance is canceled ... but that I should have a profit .. but if the bet is losing ... I ask you to help me and close this bad story with the remaining 5100 euros ... thank you very much

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Then they made me send an email with my document asking me to make a statement that I would have accepted the 400 euros and that I didn't want anything more ... threatening me that I was doing so or not giving me anything .. I was afraid of losing the I made money ... if you want I recorded the call with a program installed on the phone thanks

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4 years ago

Hi Gianluca, 

I'm really sorry it turned this way. Please send us the recorded call and all recent relevant conversations with the casino. 

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Hi can you tell me how to send them?

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You can either upload them here or send them directly to my email address: peter.m@casino.guru

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Ok cibprovo although unfortunately I think they remain in memory 2 days so I have to see .... anyway contact me see if you can help me I'm desperate

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Then regarding the terms and conditions ... cmq does not say that the winnings will be canceled ...

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Hi peter then now they will call me maybe. . And shouting they offer me nonsense .... I am afraid by now ... I ask you could you let me credit the rest, that is 5100 euros and close it like this? The other time I accepted in fear but then they made these strange games that only led me to a personal malaise. Can you help me get all my winnings? I always think about that .... with a spiked from 31 euros the slot its joker has hunted around 6000 euros round ... nn I see why nn should pay me ... even if there was the limit. .I have respected all the limits even if I wanted to

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Hi because at the beginning I asked for a reasonable sum at least ... obviously they use the technique of threatening and verbally attacking threatening or this or nothing ..... because if they would give me at least another 3000 euros then I could accept that .. cmq I'm considering making a complaint to the authorities with that registration? What do you advise me to do ??

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4 years ago

Hi Gianluca,

We are currently analyzing the record you sent to us. In the meantime, I suggest, you submit a complaint on the Gaming Curacao website (link below). The contact form is on the bottom of the page. The Gaming Curacao license is not one of the best licenses, but they may be able to help. 

http://www.gaming-curacao.com/#section-usp

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Meanwhile, I try to contact them again in the live chat? What are you saying?

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Can you contact them again? Maybe they give me money and we close like this

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The curacao site is not accessible .... it takes me to another page

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Hello Peter I contacted you by sending them an email ... explaining my disappointment ... now I think they will call me back shouting ... I'm afraid ... can you help me? Can you tell them to give me these 5,000 euros and close it like this?

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They called me back shouting ... and they closed the bill ... because obviously not to let me see the chronology ... because I bet regular ... but I hope I have kept the photos

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Peter, hello, I sent you the second registration, too, please help me

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Hello I sent email also to curacao gaming ... can you contact them too?

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Hi peter news? I'm really sick ... this situation and these shouts on the phone have made me feel sick.

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Hi peter, are there any news?

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Peter there is any news?

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Hi Peter I'm considering making a formal notice at the casino ... do you have news?

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Hello peter then ... anyway the 400 euros they promised me ... anyway at the moment they didn't credit me ... so I assume they have retracted ... then on Monday I will let you know ... then I consulted with a Italian lawyer ... who has seen the terms of the casino ... in practice it is almost a scam .... because they told me that the player is not protected ... I am desperate ... they took 6000 euros mine. absurd. .please help me .. i'm considering formalizing the casino and reporting theft

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Peter the 400 gave it to me ... can you help me for the other 5100 ?? Peter I'm sick I had to go to the doctor ... can you talk to the casino ?? At least half of it is my money that I won ... after that cancellation my problems started. Thanks

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Hi Gianluca,

Sorry for the delay, many people are on holiday now. We reviewed the phone calls with the casino. We agree with you, if you never bet over 30% of your deposit (€45), the casino should pay you. The €40 + €20 insurance can't be considered one single bet. I contacted the casino again, at first the casino rep said they would look into the matter, but stopped responding. Have you contacted the Curacao gaming authority? I tried to send a message on their website and it worked normally. 

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Yes peter I emailed the game authority ... but at the moment no answer ... I also put a lawyer who will send a letter in default. .please if you can try contacting the casino again i'm terrible

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Please if you can contact again to mediate .... these ki are ruining ...

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Peter please if you can insist .... it's my money ... it isn't fair that they don't pay me ... at least another 3000 euros can you try a bargain ??

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Peter novita?

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Peter hello news?

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Hi did they answer peter? Have you found a solution?

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Peter is there any news? I am increasingly desperate

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Peter are you there? I am desperate

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Hi Gianluca,

Sorry for the late reply. I understand your frustration. I contacted the casino again and also the gaming authority. Unfortunately, I can't get them to pay you your winnings if they don't cooperate. Only a gaming authority has the competence to make a casino pay the player's winnings. Let's wait until Tuesday. If the casino don't react until then, I will close the complaint as unresolved and it will affect its rating significantly. The casino seems to care about their reputation, so this could help to change their approach.  

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Thanks peter you are an exceptional person. Hopefully well I am whipped a lot. We hope for a cooperation or that they contact me to pay me thank you very much

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Peter, if you make me recover my money, I will be very grateful to you. I ask you to contact monica who is the one who blocked my account and to try to get you the remaining 5100 euros ... she opens my account and puts them on paper and we solve ... peter help me please have ruined me ... I will give you a nice reward peter

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Then I wanted to ask you did you contact the gaming authority? What did they say?

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Hi gianluca

 

We have investigated your concerns and here are our findings:

 

On the 29th of November 2019, you were informed that your withdrawal request of €6000 was cancelled due to irregular play.

 

The terms and conditions of the casino are presented to all players before they created an account at the casino and it explicitly informs the players of the following:

 

"If you do not agree with any of the terms of this Agreement, do not click "I agree", do not continue to use the website, download, install or otherwise use the software, and remove the software from your computer."

 

Once a player clicked "I AGREE" it signifies that they understood the terms and agreed to abide the rules of the casino.

 

Rules are commonplace in the industry. At our casino, we make a point of having the rules in plain sight. Some feel that our terms do not fit their play and decide not to play or create an account. In your case, you made the active choice to play.

 

Your winnings were voided as you have broken the terms and conditions of the casino "Placing single bets equal to or higher than 30% of the most recent deposit in play, if it is smaller than the bonus." Your deposit in play was €150 and therefore you are not allowed to place bets equal or more than €45. Your gameplay shows that you made bets ranging from €47 to €100, on blackjack and sports bet.

 

On 14th December 2019, in light of your complaint the casino had offered you €400 as a goodwill gesture and the closure of this case. On the very same day, you’ve cancelled the pending withdrawal of €400, played and lost. Thereafter, you proceeded to reopen the case despite your agreement. Again, as a goodwill gesture, the casino has refunded you €400.

 

Please be advised that you are welcome to send the complaint for review to our regulating authority and we will be providing the same information with evidence.

 

Kind regards

 

WhiteLion Bets Casino

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Peter all false or almost all false ... first of all for sports betting nn "the betting limit as repeatedly confirmed by them in chat .... and here too I have saved everything. Then the chronology I already saved .. .and as I shot there is only one bet contested by them .... i.e. the one I shot there .... i.e. bet 40 .... then the dealer pulls ace and I make insurance 20 .... so primary bet euro 40 ... as also already controlled by you peter ... it is true that they gave me as compensation 900 euro and I accepted ... but peter I sent you the recordings ... telephone .... they shouted and threatened or take these or nothing ??? Is that normal? ... they seem threatening to me .... then after I accepted the lawyer I had addressed ... an Italian lawyer of the euroconsumers association after the checks said that I was screwed ... because my games including the contested one was regular .... and even if it had been irregular he told me that those terms and co nditions are irregular because they do not protect the players ...

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Peter all false or almost all false ... first of all for sports betting nn "the betting limit as repeatedly confirmed by them in chat .... and here too I have saved everything. Then the chronology I already saved .. .and as I shot there is only one bet contested by them .... i.e. the one I shot there .... i.e. bet 40 .... then the dealer pulls ace and I make insurance 20 .... so primary bet euro 40 ... as also already controlled by you peter ... it is true that they gave me as compensation 900 euro and I accepted ... but peter I sent you the recordings ... telephone .... they shouted and threatened or take these or nothing ??? Is that normal? ... they seem threatening to me .... then after I accepted the lawyer I had addressed ... an Italian lawyer of the euroconsumers association after the checks said that I was screwed ... because my games including the contested one was regular .... and even if it had been irregular he told me that those terms and co nditions are irregular because they do not protect the players ...

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Peter cmq Italian lawyer has sent a letter of formal notice to the casino ... with a request for damages ... then they closed my account .... I saved a good part of the history ... but to make you understand their bad faith. ... if they open the account .... from the moment of the payment to the moment of cancellation of the withdrawal of 6000 euros ... there is the chronology .... it is clear that after this episode ... I was sick and I started nn always making the right choices ... because those 6000 euros of mine are always in my head

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Peter ask the casino to provide the game history from the payment of 150 euros .... until the cancellation of 6000 euros .... because once I made the withdrawal request for 6000 euros I didn't play anymore until I they canceled it ... because I was waiting for the withdrawal ... to make you understand the damage they did to me ... then once they canceled everything ... I was terrible

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peter and then anyway I with a bet at the slot of 31 euros I won 5900 euros ..... in one fell swoop ... anyway you see that scam .... the other bets even if they were wrong .... what influence could have ??

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Peter this is a mess that ruins people ... even if it were ... my bet was prior to winning the slots ... the bet was 40 blackjack .... plus 20 insurance ... then I went at the slots and with a bet of 31 euros the slot has pulled out 5900 euros .... peter do something nn it is right to ruin people's lives so ... turn the game history and see

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Peter are telling a lot of lies not to pay and not to have the negative review ... get the history sent and see again ... also because I sent you everything already ..

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Peter can you ask for the game history from my 150 euro deposit up to the 6000 euro withdrawal request ?? These tricksters you will see that until the cancellation of 6000 I played regular ... only the bet of 40 plus insurance 20 ..

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Peter I turned to an Italian lawyer ... could you cooperate with him to help me?

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Peter nn have never responded to my emails .... now this morning they are sending me all the reply emails all together ... all after the cancellation of the 6000 euros ... obviously after they did me the damage and I was sick .. .. did you see that bad faith? Now they answer this morning

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Peter..I contacted the casino manager ... as an honest person I asked him at least another 1850 euros in addition to the 900 that they have already given me and she too cmq honestly told me that within 72 hours she will give me an answer. Even if it is 6000 euros just to shorten the peter thing I'm willing to this final agreement ... so peter before closing the case tomorrow as unsolved can you wait? After that, once she makes the transfer to the card ... she and I will write to your forum guru. And everything will be definitively resolved. Thanks peter at least I recover the half as I asked the first time

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Hi Gianluca, 

I haven't received any replies yet. Yes, I will wait, let's see if the casino agrees with your terms.

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Ok thanks, wait ... if they accept my request, the case is definitively closed ... I recover at least half of it. Thanks a lot Peter

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peter we solved. Can you remove the complaint? And give it as solved?

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They will pay me as requested by me thanks

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Peter hello have you seen the messages? We solved thanks ...

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Hi Gianluca,

That is good news, I'm glad it worked out and you and the casino found a compromise. Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution center. As the complaint has been successfully resolved, we will now close it as ‘resolved’ in our system. Thanks for cooperation and don’t hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future. 

Best regards,

Peter

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