12 months ago
This company has screwed me out of $85,000. I deposited $700 or so and won a ridiculous amount playing live casino baccarat - all legitimately. After I request withdrawal, they ask for verification documents. All are provided. Even bank statement showing transfer from my own bank account - everything checks out. Then they close my account without providing any reason. I contact livechat and they just keep running in circles about emailing accountsecurity and that this is being reviewed. This was on Nov 9. They have closed my account and refused to pay out for no reason specified.
Eventually I got their head of customer service Stevie Palmer who wrote me one email saying they are "investigating" and haven't heard back. Granted he did say it would take until the 21st likely to hear back. But still he has not responded to any of my questions, provided reasons for the account closure or balance confiscation.
But it's been over a week since they closed my account. No issues of fraud, or multiple accounts. Any issues I could think I've raised and they continue to just say they're investigating. Deposit in question was made right from my own sole registered bank account. I cannot think of any issues and they aren't providing any. They are still "investigating" and doing whatever they can to find a way out of paying it. I have occasionally bet at my friend's house who also has a BV account, but we have completely separate houses, IP addresses, submitted individual verification documents, etc. We are romantic partners. We have each had our own accounts for months and they've taken deposits and paid withdrawals before without question. They closed his account for no reason provided. He asked for a reason 5 days ago and no response.
Thankfully I'm in Ontario and have certain protections under Ontario law, but given the amount involved, it's very scary right now. I cannot believe what is going on. I even had to get a law firm involved and they are familiar with the Ontario laws and cannot believe what is going on. We have tried to arrange for a phone call, sent multiple emails requesting more information on the investigation, been completely transparent in showing that the deposit in question and winnings in question are all from ME: that there's no duplicate account. I have no actual reason given for account closure and balance confiscation but I can only suspect these issues given I used my friend's IP address - that is not prohibited in their rules. What's prohibited is an individual creating multiple accounts. We are separate individuals with separate addresses and separate IP addresses. We've provided all documentation to confirm this.
I've previously deposited and won a bit and they've paid me. A couple months ago. So only NOW it's an issue because we're talking about $85,000. How sneaky of them to try find a technicality when they've already taken my action, paid out, established the legitimacy of my account, etc...
They are weasels; they will find any and every excuse under the sun not to pay you. Here, their indefinite "investigation" ongoing with no responses to ANY of my questions is not only really bad practice and acting in bad faith, but also leaves me completely in the dark as to the security of my funds. My lawyer and me have to infer what the issues are from and address them. Any and all issues have been addressed. The only things we could think of were the log-ins to the same IP and there were two $80 and $500 deposits from months ago from a joint bank account which their terms do not prohibit however their terms specify that all deposits must be from the account holder's bank account/credit card or winnings are voided. I’ve offered to return winnings from those deposits just to wrap this up already. That’s $9k. The joint account is in my name, just shared. But in any event, for the balance in my account now, the deposit was directly from my sole registered bank account, not any joint account. 100% of my balance is that deposit from my solely owned bank account and winnings that were legitimate - live casino - no cheating, no fraud, nothing.
When you win big, legitimately, and with a regulated book, you should get paid out. End of story. Thankfully the Ontario laws provide that when they close your account, they have to pay out your balance.
Update: been told the investigation is ongoing be not been told what or why but they will provide a final decision end of next week. Anything short of paying the $85k less winnings derived from the joint account deposit of about $9k (which was previously paid and I’ve offered in good faith to return) would be injustice. They have not responded to one question of mine or the offer to pay me out $85k less the $9k win. the $85k is entirely derived from a bank deposit in my sole name and winnings therefrom.
Eventually I got their head of customer service Stevie Palmer who wrote me one email saying they are "investigating" and haven't heard back. Granted he did say it would take until the 21st likely to hear back. But still he has not responded to any of my questions, provided reasons for the account closure or balance confiscation.
But it's been over a week since they closed my account. No issues of fraud, or multiple accounts. Any issues I could think I've raised and they continue to just say they're investigating. Deposit in question was made right from my own sole registered bank account. I cannot think of any issues and they aren't providing any. They are still "investigating" and doing whatever they can to find a way out of paying it. I have occasionally bet at my friend's house who also has a BV account, but we have completely separate houses, IP addresses, submitted individual verification documents, etc. We are romantic partners. We have each had our own accounts for months and they've taken deposits and paid withdrawals before without question. They closed his account for no reason provided. He asked for a reason 5 days ago and no response.
Thankfully I'm in Ontario and have certain protections under Ontario law, but given the amount involved, it's very scary right now. I cannot believe what is going on. I even had to get a law firm involved and they are familiar with the Ontario laws and cannot believe what is going on. We have tried to arrange for a phone call, sent multiple emails requesting more information on the investigation, been completely transparent in showing that the deposit in question and winnings in question are all from ME: that there's no duplicate account. I have no actual reason given for account closure and balance confiscation but I can only suspect these issues given I used my friend's IP address - that is not prohibited in their rules. What's prohibited is an individual creating multiple accounts. We are separate individuals with separate addresses and separate IP addresses. We've provided all documentation to confirm this.
I've previously deposited and won a bit and they've paid me. A couple months ago. So only NOW it's an issue because we're talking about $85,000. How sneaky of them to try find a technicality when they've already taken my action, paid out, established the legitimacy of my account, etc...
They are weasels; they will find any and every excuse under the sun not to pay you. Here, their indefinite "investigation" ongoing with no responses to ANY of my questions is not only really bad practice and acting in bad faith, but also leaves me completely in the dark as to the security of my funds. My lawyer and me have to infer what the issues are from and address them. Any and all issues have been addressed. The only things we could think of were the log-ins to the same IP and there were two $80 and $500 deposits from months ago from a joint bank account which their terms do not prohibit however their terms specify that all deposits must be from the account holder's bank account/credit card or winnings are voided. I’ve offered to return winnings from those deposits just to wrap this up already. That’s $9k. The joint account is in my name, just shared. But in any event, for the balance in my account now, the deposit was directly from my sole registered bank account, not any joint account. 100% of my balance is that deposit from my solely owned bank account and winnings that were legitimate - live casino - no cheating, no fraud, nothing.
When you win big, legitimately, and with a regulated book, you should get paid out. End of story. Thankfully the Ontario laws provide that when they close your account, they have to pay out your balance.
Update: been told the investigation is ongoing be not been told what or why but they will provide a final decision end of next week. Anything short of paying the $85k less winnings derived from the joint account deposit of about $9k (which was previously paid and I’ve offered in good faith to return) would be injustice. They have not responded to one question of mine or the offer to pay me out $85k less the $9k win. the $85k is entirely derived from a bank deposit in my sole name and winnings therefrom.
- Confiscated $85,000
- Unresponsive
- Non transparent
- Scam
