Slots in your experience you should avoid!! (page 3)

I've given up on the big bass games as I see a pattern. Big bass splash you get a scatter pulls a stump up every time first go or 1 fish then you don't get the Fisherman to progress. Big bass hold and spin you get the spin and you get 2 coins first go then nothing. I'm pleased someone like you has worked out how to turn a profit from them. I give up! 🤢

I have a question for the Casino Guru team? Do you actually have contact with providers? Could you maybe ask why games are getting worse and worse?

It just can't be that games deteriorate so drastically. I would really like to know why you have 80% less chance of getting free spins in normal spin mode (i.e. not fast or turbo) than in fast or turbo mode?

Or why in 9 out of 10 cases with Bigger bass bonanza/bigger bass Bonanzca christmas catch/club tropical, scatters suddenly disappear as soon as you have 2 scatters (reels 2+3 and 1+4), then there are no more scatters on the remaining reels inside, in transit).

Would it be possible for them to try to achieve something?

I know the same problem too

Are you also responding to someone specific ? If so, it would be best to use the "reply" button because this way I don't know exactly who you are contacting or what the problem is. 

Can you say a little more ? 

We have to be honest - this RTP of the slots is just a pipe dream. It was introduced at some point, but was never proven. Especially since the streamers are in the casino with their fake money, you can forget about online casinos completely. Book games, fishing games, it's all just crap. Every game feels equally bad, there are hardly any differences in the spins.

Fishing games - no matter if bigger bass or big bass slosts - it's always noticeable when you reach phase 2 - I always have the feeling that I'm being sent to a tadpole pond to fish - and 95% of the time 1 or 2 anglers come with tadpoles.

Same goes for Bigger Bass/Blizzard, Club Tropicana with 4 scatters - if I have 4 scatters and I have 15 free spins, then I always feel like I have a subscription for the bad free spins. I've had 4 scatters over 150 times in the last few years - never once reached the last level, 6 times level 3 and otherwise level 2 or not even that. Sorry - but when I ask in the chat if they can take a scatter away from me and I notice that the support employee already has a ? over his head - that says it all.

It's sad, I don't even dare to play with 20/24 cents if I deposit 50 or 100 euros - I always play with 12 cents so I can play longer

The game you mention I know exactly which one you mean and so far all the bonuses I've seen weren't even profitable and also most of the players ended up at lvl 2-3. But unfortunately that's gmabling and that's the way it goes and if you can't do well on it, it's probably best to move somewhere else. You've had experience with enough bonuses and so it would probably put me off sooner than you. 

On the other hand, are there some games that can please you even in bonuses ? 

Do you know what gambling is? Gambling is when you get something back at some point. The only difference is that what happens here is always the same pattern - which brings us to the principle of chance. If events occur 90% of the time, it's no longer a coincidence. I'm sorry - I'm a player who, when he likes to play certain slots, also notices what changes have happened. Which was obvious, because you had scatters on every reel. Now it's the case that scatters appear on reels 2 and 3 and in 8 out of 10 attempts the scatters on reels 4 and 5 are gone - no more scatters run through. The same goes for 1 and 4. Here too, in 8 out of 10 cases the scatter on reel 5 has disappeared.

In the past, you could get 3-4 free spins in around 100 spins in Bigger Bass Bonanza, and often had a chance to get free spins. And a system that involves buying free spins is therefore unnecessary. Now, with updates and the disappearance of some scatters, it is more difficult to get free spins. Now you are really considering buying free spins.

So much for luck - this has nothing to do with luck, but with manipulating a system. Because if a system works before and I change it with just one update, then I'm manipulating the system, because it no longer works as it did before.

Strangely enough, every time updates are made, the games get worse, not better.

The best example is Book of Dead by Play'n Go. Anyone who knows the game from the past knows that the scatters were marked by books. What happened if you had scatters on reels 1+2, for example, then reels 3-5 ran longer - how many books always ran through? 1-3 books. That's why the chances of free spins were also higher.

What have they changed with the update? Now there are no books, just the scatters from Legacy of Dead. The first noticeable change is that scatters are less likely to appear on the first two reels.

Next change - if you have 2 scatters, watch how many scatters go through? 1. And very rarely 2.

Conclusion: fewer chances of getting free spins and generally fewer free spins in general.

Why have there been more updates to the games in recent years than before Corona? I've been playing for quite a long time, but when the updates came in the years before Corona, you hardly noticed them. The changes were really minimal.

Then you have to ask yourself how the streamers influence this gambling game? Streamers who constantly buy free spins with fake money are the reason why the games are getting worse and worse. The stream also wants to earn something, and who do the casinos get the money back from? That's right, from the average consumer, like many of us here.

So we are already a long way from gambling.

You summed it up quite reasonably and here is my view.

I would start with what you say about slot manipulation. I would always want the player to prove that it is really happening. Because then anyone could come up and say similar things. That's not to say that every casino is honest because it's not and some may have fake slots. But to talk about rigged games in general seems far-fetched to me. That's my opinion. 

As for FS and the situation before corona and the various updates, you probably know more if you have been playing for a long time, I understand that. Somewhere maybe the changes have been drastic and in the online world it is sometimes hard to get justice. But on the other hand, I would say that every player has a free choice to decide whether to play in casinos or not. This means that if you only notice changes on certain games from a certain provider and it is for bad, don't play them. If it's at a specific casino, then why play them there is my question ? If it's overall, then why spend money on something you don't see the point in and doesn't bring you any joy ? Gambling is supposed to be about relaxation and I get that losing all the time is not relaxation and if it is supposed to be like that, then I don't see the purpose in playing. 

Regarding streamers, I think any conscious gambler can evaluate how things are nowadays. Streamers have deals with casinos either for a certain fee or they can withdraw a certain amount of money from what they manage to win. When someone spins for 500€ and buys bonuses for 5,000€, they probably have to tell everyone that it's not real. Perhaps few people could afford something like that, so even if someone is just a casual consumer, you have to use a little bit of common sense and be able to assess some things and have information especially about how it works. 

That's my overall view on it. 

Everyone has their own opinion. How do you want to prove fraud or manipulation? As a player you have no chance. Only those who have the servers under control can do that.

And as I said, if I make an update because a game isn't really working properly, nobody says anything. But if I make updates so that things run much worse for the player, then I may have acted within the legal framework, but I have manipulated it - within the legal framework.

For me it's just a question of how you approach things. Are spins really monitored? Is every player checked to see if the system is sticking to the RTP? Because that's the question for me. Is the RTP controller running on the server, or is it only checked now and then, or when there are complaints?

For me it's different if a control system is running on the server, regardless of when the game is being played. There should always be one running - because that's the best way to keep the RTP under control. But that doesn't happen because it's always tested from time to time, or if there are complaints - and we don't know how MGA deals with such complaints - they don't care.

MGA doesn't even follow the rules. Why are there so many complaints from EU countries about MGA? Because they don't give a damn about it.

I'll post a link, everyone can read it themselves - then they will see how "correctly" MGA really works

Many EU countries do not accept the MGA as a control system for players

https://www.staudt.law/news/casino-rueckvergleich-gesetz-malta

I have a feeling that the MGA is being criticized more and more by the players. Sometimes it wasn't like that according to what I watched, but today it's a bit worse.

Of course, it's not easy to prove it, but if you wanted to take such a matter to a lawyer or an authority, I'm afraid your opinion alone probably wouldn't be enough.

To get you thinking about RTP and slots, here is a guide we have on this topic, maybe it would not be bad to read- How slots work. 

But haven't you tried to get interested in such things in a casino ? I suppose support probably wouldn't write you much about it, but I was wondering if you've ever tried asking the questions you mention here.

I know your guidelines and you really put a lot of effort into it. But even with the RTP you stand there and say that you get what you get from a higher authority or organization. But there is no verifiable proof for this assumption.

And when I see what errors there are in the slot, and as a player I write to MGA about what errors there are, and nothing, absolutely nothing happens. Then sorry, I can't take this organization seriously.

Have you ever played Gladiatoro by Elk gaming? I've noticed some dubious games at Elk gaming in particular.

Gladiator is similar to Wild Toro - if you have at least 2 emperors on reels 2-4, you get a respin where the bull can appear on the last reel. This works in Wild Toro too, but not at all in Gladiator. I've done tens of thousands of spins, hundreds of respin chances for the bull - to date, not once has a bull appeared in the respin when 2 or more emperors were waiting.

Did something happen? Nothing, no reaction from MGA. I also wrote to them and asked if they would test the games before a provider wants to bring them to market? Or at least test them when they are on the market?

I am of the opinion that no matter what special bonuses there are, they must also be accessible with normal spins. And if I can only buy this super bonus and cannot get it with normal spins, then the game must be taken off the market. Or the same applies if I already have the winnings from the free spin in my account before I start the free spins? That happened to me with Poltava from ELk Gaming. I had 21 euros in my account and got the free spin with a stake of 1 euro. I started the free spin while the spin was still spinning and 43 euros appeared at the top of my account. It really was pure coincidence that I saw that at that very moment. I immediately stopped the game and looked at the whole thing in the respin - and lo and behold, I had won exactly 22 euros from the free spins that were already in my account before the free spin was started.

And then my question is - if every spin is unique, why does the system know in advance what I'm going to win? Which brings me to the fact that it doesn't matter when you start a free spin - it's already known in advance what you've won. It's a lot of luck if it's already known in advance.

All of these errors and a few more, or changes that occur due to updates - like missing scatters on reels after you have 2 scatters - have all been reported. But MGA is not interested, they are in Malta and they are not interested in what the EU or anyone else says.

People always say Curacao is worse because they don't have to justify anything to anyone. IN truth, MGA is a bigger disappointment than Curacao.

And I also want to say that - all of you who sacrifice your time for Casino Guru^^ and try to help other players with problems - I have great respect for you and your work. And I would say that if MGA or ASKGamblers took half as much time for players as they do, then some strange things in the ONLINE casino would no longer exist.

I would like to thank all the employees at CAsino guru again - and this criticism was not directed at you personally. Please keep going, keep helping the players. But I would ask you to do one thing: try to make the EU aware of the problems that casinos are having, especially in the EU.

And last but not least, I say goodbye to you and the online casinos - I will go to a real casino 2-3 times a year just for fun, nothing more. I wish all players lots of success, lots of luck, you will need it.

And I wish the employees of casino guru a lot of patience^^ and save your nerves^^

The whole situation you described I understand why you have such an opinion. I would definitely like to know some kind of explanation from the casino, the provider or the licensing authority but if you don't get anything from anybody, then it's pretty sad. I'd say it's some kind of bug or error that shouldn't be happening and they should definitely be concerned about it. 

So did you also write to the game provider to see if they noticed such a bug ? 

Thank you and we appreciate your nice words. Unfortunately your suggestion would not be completely wrong, but we do not deal with legality and things like that, so it would be quite difficult to implement in some areas. 😕

I hope you will do well and I think you will not regret this decision. 

I wish you all the best and everything to be as you imagined. 🙂