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My concern about Pragmatic Play

1 year ago by giannis400
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1 year ago

the Provider "pragmatic play" is an international scam, I have been following him for over 4 years. It is advertised with streamers on youtube and twitch and elsewhere, it misleads ordinary players by showing big profits with big bets while in reality it gives nothing to ordinary players who bet from one euro and below. I've been playing their games like splash bonanza and others for months and it doesn't work. It is a similar scam provider like netend

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giannis400
1 year ago

Hi, let me ask you please, who is meant by "we"? And why the mentioned 30%, please? Thank you for reply.

1 year ago

I have observed that with a smaller stake like €0.40 you can make 1550 X!

The multi isn't as high when you play higher

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venusm
1 year ago

I guess that the max multiplier varies per game. What do you think?

venusm
1 year ago

90% of my bets are €0.40-0.60, it always kills me, once in 100 it gives something, they give spins more than once when I play €100, I have never succeeded, the provider is a multinational fraud

giannis400
1 year ago

In this case, I'd say that maybe the volatility is too low for such stakes.

Don't want to bother you with theory, but I find this information provided by Daniel pretty useful:

"Try to look at this article. It really describes all the essential things that you should learn about slots. Just to sum it up for you a bit:

slots have different RTP, you want to play slots with higher RTP (around 96%), because they pay more

you need to pay attention, because some game providers allow casinos to decrease the RTP on their slots, so it can happen to you, that the same slot can have different RTP in 2 different casinos. Anyway, good casinos always show you how much is the RTP on a specific game

there are high volatility and low volatility games, when you play low volatility games, you win quite often, but the winnings are often lower than your bets. When you play high volatility games (for example jackpot games are often high volatility games), you can have a dead spin after a dead spin, maybe 50 in a row, but then you enter a special bonus feature and win a big part of you losses back. Anyway, if you stop playing earlier, you feel like the slot didn't pay you anything"



Radka
1 year ago

you said it yourself, some providers allow the casinos to reduce the rtp, I say that they not only reduce it but cut it in half, there is no excuse for "pragmatic play", I have played with them with big stakes of 2 euros, they recommend the 2 euros are the same as a good bet. It's a trap provider who advertises on the internet forms for big returns or profit returns, it's a scam, I've been following them for too many years, get away those who play (pragmatic play) and are not streamers or involved

giannis400
1 year ago

I was absolutely sure that you will pick up just this part of my answer. 🙂

I did say "some" and it does not mean that in every casino for every game, though.

But I fully understand that this "explanation" is the easiest and most welcomed one.

I will repeat now, most (not every single one) streamers make advertisements to gain profit - Still, I would not take such sessions as proof that casino games are rigged for regular players.


1 year ago

hello, i have now made over 30,000 spins on big bass bonanza. had over 300 free spins. not once x10 and 4 times only x3. only more anglers without value. sometimes 400-500 spins for a free spin. so i think pragmatic play has taken a very bad turn. rtp underground and the rng has probably been on vacation for half a year. as of today, pragmatic slots are taboo for me. played these spins at a casino.

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franztheuerw
1 year ago

Hello there,

That's quite a summary! I'm personally missing the amounts bet though, and the rest of the no-free-spins winnings. That would be another important part, I reckon.

Even though it seems you solely focused on free spins sessions. So, the point taken for FS, I guess.

May I know whether you played only the classic version?


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Radka
1 year ago

hello radka,

I played with 50 cents. free spins with one or two anglers were very common. that I came to the mal 2 about 100 times. but no big gains. in big bass you have to focus on free spins. very difficult to win anything from the game. yes i played the classic version.

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franztheuerw
1 year ago

Hello!

Thanks for the details, the "picture" seems to be complete now. I'm just asking myself whether you would gain the same result with the Megaways version. 🤔


franztheuerw
1 year ago

I would advise you not to open dialogues with REDKA, it doesn't make sense, her behavior is fascist,she deleted 13 of my online casino reviews because I probably insulted the agreed ones, she deleted evaluations that I had made here and 4 years old, you understand how much hate he has. The reason the reviews were deleted was because they had one star and were critical of the casino, you understand what is going on here. When you say that the spins on the slots are manipulated in some casinos, you are offending the casinos, they tell you that because you lose, you are complaining, so you should not affect interests, if you raise them, they will delete you, that means DEMOCRACY, I am from the country where DEMOCRACY was created, so I say my opinion about her. So everyone, write that some casinos that give a profit of 5% after 100 spins or more are good casinos and not casinos with hacked software. Many evaluations from others are more scathing than mine and they have not been bothered, it may have bothered her that I criticized the Provider of the theme, i.e. pragmatik play.

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franztheuerw
1 year ago

The huge wins from this PROVIDER are seen on the internet by 90% of people who have accounts and are viewed on twitch or by youtubers and so on. I have been playing the provider's games for many years, I have not had any luck with such wins that are circulating on the internet even once. The more likely it is that they delete my comment, it doesn't make these personal opinions read.

giannis400
1 year ago

I don't know in what version of Democracy you live in, but in my version ' her behaviour is fascist ' is not an opinion, it's an insult.

Frankey
1 year ago

If she deleted 8 reviews because they were annoying, then you would consider her a Democrat and not bother her. Also if you put a lot of stars and say nice things you are accepted here because you don't bother anyone, do you get me?

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1 year ago

I would advise you not to open dialogues with REDKA, it doesn't make sense, her behavior is fascist,she deleted 13 of my online casino reviews because I probably insulted the agreed ones, she deleted evaluations that I had made here and 4 years old, you understand how much hate he has. The reason the reviews were deleted was because they had one star and were critical of the casino, you understand what is going on here. When you say that the spins on the slots are manipulated in some casinos, you are offending the casinos, they tell you that because you lose, you are complaining, so you should not affect interests, if you raise them, they will delete you, that means DEMOCRACY, I am from the country where DEMOCRACY was created, so I say my opinion about her. So everyone, write that some casinos that give a profit of 5% after 100 spins or more are good casinos and not casinos with hacked software. Many evaluations from others are more scathing than mine and they have not been bothered, it may have bothered her that I criticized the Provider of the theme, i.e. pragmatik play.

1 year ago

Hello there.

Allow me to mention here the reasons you got for those rejections.

"Hello and thank you for your review. It seems that you failed to mention why the casino is so bad, aside from the fact that you lost. Casinos always have an advantage over players so it's a common situation in all casinos that a player loses the deposit. Kindly write a new review with more details so it will be more helpful to other players. User reviews shouldn't serve as a revenge against casinos where you lost your deposit."

plus:

"Hello and thank you for your review. It seems that you failed to mention why the casino is so bad, aside from the fact that you lost. Casinos always have an advantage over players so it's a common situation in all casinos that a player loses the deposit. Kindly write a new review with more details so it will be more helpful to other players. Thank you for your understanding."

Sadly, you took that so personally, I have no problem with you, I only aim to keep the user rating unbiased.

Have you noticed you have submitted 27 reviews so far consisting of 24 times 1-star reviews proclaiming casinos are more or less a scam because you lost - all is manipulated?

The last one seems like a trap, awarding the same casino with 5 stars to give you proof only good reviews are approved- containing "LOL". I see that as quite a dishonest situation. Not getting that personally, though.

To paint the picture in full here: only two times you have awarded casinos with 2 stars.

Hence I rejected the reviews lacking any concrete or helpful information.


Regarding other players, we also consider their user reviews history. In an ideal world, none of those would exist; momentarily, we cannot check each player retroactively, so we do that along the way.

There's no personal aspect, we're just currently lacking the time to be precise regarding already submitted reviews.




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giannis400
1 year ago

You can see below the full history of your user reviews.

We reject around 25% of incoming POSITIVE reviews on casinos, because they're fake. Then I believe it's also fair to reject reviews that are negative and don't bring any value to other players. When you basically say that the casino is the worst in the world, because you lost your money there, then it's not a review. It's a revenge for the money you lost there. It looks like every single casino is a scam based on your reviews and it's impossible to satisfy you.

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(archived means: original review that was edited and a new one was approved)

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1 year ago

Ok, giannis400 - you saw that coming!

Just a single offensive word or post, and you're banned for a lifetime. I mean it!

Behave or leave. Consider it the final warning.





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