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Pragmatic is a scam provider (page 2)

1 year ago by adamschriener
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Edwardo67
3 months ago

Sometimes these bonus buys are tricky, I've seen it with my own eyes so I know what you're talking about. But that doesn't mean that the slots have to be fake or a scam. 

However, I would also like to see list you are talking about. Could you maybe screenshot it or point us to where you found it ?

Jaro
3 months ago

If you go onto the Curaçao website they give you a list off casinos they license. No golden scam or sister sites. Yes I know how bonus buys operate.. It's nothing to do with that. It's the whole casino. Scam nothing else. I have contacted trustpilot to explain how they are letting golden scam print so many fake reviews when any true review is challenged with in days. Read the true reviews on trustpilot all 100 per cent. Trustpilot said they. Have a log back. I have proved to trustpilot l sampled the scam so my reviews still up. If you want to make your mind up with this so called casino open an account or read reviews on trustpilot. A man. With no brain would no it's a scam. They print 4 or 5 reviews every 2 days to keep their great rating at 4.lol.also most UK reviews attrocious spelling and they get paid out in dollars in UK. Lol. Check it out and see what you think. Fraudulent scam nothing else.

Edwardo67
2 months ago

Based on your post, it seems that you have serious concerns about some Curacao-licensed online casinos and their Trustpilot review practices. Your concerns are certainly worth addressing. I am in the same situation. I am currently experiencing some inconvenience from the same circumstances


The problem of fake reviews and online casino scams is indeed a pressing one. Unfortunately, not all licensed casinos operate in an honest manner, and buying positive reviews to maintain a high rating on platforms like Trustpilot is a common practice among unscrupulous operators.



Edwardo67
2 months ago

I completely agree with your opinion. I have made many purchases of bonus games. The return is 50%. It is rare when the bonus pays off. This is not at all like the game of bloggers. In my practice, there was a case when I could not make even one turnover of funds playing with bonus funds of 500 USD. Games from Pragmatic Play. Sugar Rush 1000 and Gates of Olympus. All these games have high return

I tried to contact the provider Pragmatic Play. I never received a response.

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djcentigor
2 months ago

Pragmatic have a UK office. E mail them they have never supplied golden bet or sister sites with their games. The bonus buys are 100 per cent rigged. Only ones who will get massive hits are the streamers who play with monopoly money to entice people in to the scam. It's amazing how it is still able to trade.

3 months ago

If you go onto the Curaçao website they give you a list off casinos they license. No golden scam or sister sites. Yes I know how bonus buys operate.. It's nothing to do with that. It's the whole casino. Scam nothing else. I have contacted trustpilot to explain how they are letting golden scam print so many fake reviews when any true review is challenged with in days. Read the true reviews on trustpilot all 100 per cent. Trustpilot said they. Have a log back. I have proved to trustpilot l sampled the scam so my reviews still up. If you want to make your mind up with this so called casino open an account or read reviews on trustpilot. A man. With no brain would no it's a scam. They print 4 or 5 reviews every 2 days to keep their great rating at 4.lol.also most UK reviews attrocious spelling and they get paid out in dollars in UK. Lol. Check it out and see what you think. Fraudulent scam nothing else.

2 months ago

Hmm, I think on trustpilot a player can surely recognize when a review is fake, because I know exactly how they are written. Sometimes it looks like the AI wrote it, and it sounds like it. Sometimes you need to see more reviews from different sources to get a complete opinion, but I think that with this casino you have it closed a long time ago. So avoid those. 

djcentigor
2 months ago

I have contacted trustpilot with proof off fake reviews but they seem to be turning a blind eye to the Walter middy reviews. They keep replying with same nonsense they are currently in a backlog. Yet any true review challenged by theese mickey mouse casinos they remove within days. Trustpilot used to be my go to place before signing up to casinos but now I take it with a pinch off salt. Defo helping unscrupulous sites to hoodwink problem gamblers into sites that prey on people on gamstop. As I stated they are unlicensed banned in UK and don't pay out. Anyone who has sampled it knows what I'm. Talking about.

Jaro
2 months ago

Yes but trustpilot are endorsing this scam. Jaro have you sampled this casino.

Edwardo67
2 months ago

Trustpilot is just a review platform that doesn’t care who writes the reviews or how they are written. They don’t investigate to determine if the reviews are truthful or not. It’s more reliable to trust platforms like Guru Casino, which are currently investigating my complaint against BetPlays casino. It would be a shame if they covered up evidence of fraud at this casino and left it with a safe and reliable rating.

2 months ago

Is Pragmatic a scam or not? I want to conduct an experiment and ask for help from the representatives of Guru Casino. I plan to spend 500 USD on the game Gates of Olympus, and I would like you to help me calculate the actual RTP. I believe it might be far from the advertised rate. Is this possible?

2 months ago

Yes but trustpilot are endorsing this scam. Jaro have you sampled this casino.

2 months ago

No I have not played in this casino, because I successfully avoid them. I know that on truspilot players will find a lot of reviews which are probably not very credible and written by real players but unfortunately that's the way it is. If they want to turn a blind eye they can, but as I said, players who have experience with this kind of thing can already tell which ones look like they are not honest and which ones look like the players have actually played in them. 

2 months ago

Is Pragmatic a scam or not? I want to conduct an experiment and ask for help from the representatives of Guru Casino. I plan to spend 500 USD on the game Gates of Olympus, and I would like you to help me calculate the actual RTP. I believe it might be far from the advertised rate. Is this possible?

2 months ago

Hello, I don't think anybody from us is going to go into this. Sometimes I would say that if you calculate the RTP it can always come out different, so I don't know if such calculations have real reliability. Imagine you are playing this slot and you are not doing well on it. You calculate your RTP, another player comes along who gets lucky and has a completely different RTP based on his gameplay. I don't think that would be quite accurate. 😕

Jaro
2 months ago

Yes jaro that's on proper legitimate casinos. Not on goldenbet rtp dosent exist. You have to sample it to believe it. The slots are fake 100 per cent. If you read the true reviews off people who have been stung I can elaborate to all their grievance as I know there telling the truth. Everyone off them and it's not sour grapes about losing. It's the manner they are being treated by an unlicensed so called casino. No one can touch them as no genuine licence.

Jaro
2 months ago

Yes I agree. I can tell immediately if fake review. But not everyone so quick off the mark. But why do trustpilot let them print the garbage unchallenged. They act immediately if casino dosent like review. They have informed people on bc casino that they have removed loads off fake reviews on home page but golden scam and sister sites 10 times worse.

djcentigor
2 months ago

Try big bass splash and gates off olympus on bonus buys buddy. You will soon see how rigged it is. Big bass splash the fish look like sharks. Lol. They couldn't spell pragmatic never mind lease games off them. I have stated here clearly pragmatic do not supply them. People will find that out till a heavy cost. If you do register with them you will understand what I have been saying. From fake names on deposits till not paying out. This is from a UK player so don't know what way you will be treated. They are banned in UK yet have loads off 5 star reviews. Good luck buddy.

2 months ago

Yes I agree. I can tell immediately if fake review. But not everyone so quick off the mark. But why do trustpilot let them print the garbage unchallenged. They act immediately if casino dosent like review. They have informed people on bc casino that they have removed loads off fake reviews on home page but golden scam and sister sites 10 times worse.

2 months ago

Good question but I'm not sure what the casinos are doing to make sure there are such reviews. I suppose if they want to remove a review, there must be evidence of it and they will do it based on that, but I guess it's hard to say what the process is. 

Anyway, sometimes it seems ridiculous what reviews are there and how many of them there are. Several players have pointed this out in the past so I know what they are talking about in this case.

2 months ago

Is Pragmatic a scam or not? I want to conduct an experiment and ask for help from the representatives of Guru Casino. I plan to spend 500 USD on the game Gates of Olympus, and I would like you to help me calculate the actual RTP. I believe it might be far from the advertised rate. Is this possible?

1 month ago

Sorry to jump in 4 weeks later but do you know how RTP is calculated? Over gazilions of spins, and not 100, 1000 or 10000.

Also volatility plays a role in short term gamblin (what is short term, differs from person to person 😀). The slot you're mentioning is a high volatility slot, which means you can win a lot in just a few spins or get 10% "RTP" in 300 spins.

maxitemp100
1 month ago

I think you summed it up pretty well, volatility is very important and as you say, when you hit you can win a big amount and when you fail you can have multiple dead spins. But many players don't realize that. No one has yet come up with the idea that if they managed to hit for example in 10 spins on the mentioned game 1000x multiplier, that the game would suddenly have an RTP of 1000%. But it's gambling and the winner is the one who doesn't spend a euro at the end of the day. 🙂

1 month ago

First of all, pragmatics is a scam

Not at all

Obviously strange


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1 month ago

Sugar Rush 1000

I bought bonuses thousands of times.

Cashback rate of 20% or less


Normally I would spin it hundreds of thousands of times.

Average return rate of 60%


This is what happens when probability converges


Obviously a scam provider


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