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MarcoReus
8 months ago

Madonna, even reading your figures makes you tremble. I'll tell you that I've been considering it as lost money for months, but an attempt must be made. If it were a few hundred euros I wouldn't care, but they are significant figures and from what I see yours are even higher!

I also made the complaint to ADM and like you (and all the others who have complained) I received the famous email from ADM with the subject "withdrawals not processed".

So I acted like you: on February 1st I sent a PEC to Genius and for information to ADM, obviously Genius didn't respond (this isn't new, I had already read that they never responded to PECs and that says it all), while about twenty days later ADM responded with the usual email that we all received.

The fact is, we can't prove it right now! You can no longer access the site, in fact it has totally disappeared. In my case I had directly closed the accounts waiting for the balance to be cleared, so I couldn't provide that proof anyway. But I had already explained all this to the lawyer, namely that the site is no longer visible and that I had no proof of the balance, in fact to be honest I don't even remember the exact amounts because I didn't write them down, but he responded to this immediately which is data that can be found later because it is all recorded, so in theory we shouldn't fear this.

Regarding the surety guarantee, I also think like you, but if they told me that they were willing to give me half (because they don't have enough coverage, etc.) I would accept. Your uncle did what he could within his powers, the lawyer I spoke to (you can do research online) is an expert in the field so all you have to do is rely on him and hope for the best. Surely with your figures you can't sit idle, let's go step by step and see how it evolves.

PS. Have you issued a warning for all three accounts?

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passalacqua
8 months ago

exactly, if they fail, ADM must cover it, it's the surety guarantee I was talking about with Marcoreus.

How long it would take, and whether that money would ever arrive, I have absolutely no idea. It's very easy to think that if you don't show up and show that you're protecting your interest, they don't give a damn and won't come knocking on your door to settle the sums. Therefore it is better for us to push through a lawyer to speed up the process and get an answer. If they are bankrupt, they are not bankrupt, who should give us the money, when and to what extent.

Surely ADM will respond, if it had been a warning exclusively towards Genius we would have waited for eternity.

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alesuper9537
8 months ago

HI

if you are interested, read the previous posts. Please provide me with a response as soon as possible

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Bilegend
8 months ago

HI

read the previous posts, if you are interested in issuing a formal notice to request the money we are owed let me know, possibly as soon as possible.

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Valdivia11
8 months ago

Hi, thanks, I've already participated, I'm @jerrythemouse

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alesuper9537
8 months ago

ah ok 😄 perfect, in a few days we'll take stock and I just hope to be able to send the contact to everyone

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Valdivia11
8 months ago

I'm here too, update me

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8 months ago

HI

A few weeks ago I read all the posts on this forum and we are in the same situation.

Today I spoke with a lawyer whose contact I already had, his name is Max Rosa, if you don't know him, he is one of the greatest online gambling experts in Italy, if not the best (many poker players rely on him for cases where talks about winnings for tens/hundreds of K euros).

I explained the situation to him and he told me that it is useless to wait for ADM to confirm all the things we already know, that is, that they are a mafia and maybe they won't even answer us anymore or in any case we won't get anything out of it, adding that we can also ignore their communications just like that they always do their own thing. So, it is absolutely a waste of time to complain, call/write etc.

It also matters little whether these idiots from Genius went bankrupt or not. It may also be that the site has disappeared because its license has been suspended; in the event of bankruptcy the famous surety bond comes into play. That is: where the concessionaire (Genius) demonstrates that it has debts with the treasury and is not able to pay us, the State will have to do so (through Monopolies and therefore ADM).

I asked him: is there any chance we won't see our money again?

He told me that it is a very extreme hypothesis, in the event that ADM proves to be millions in debt and cannot guarantee us our sum, which even if we add together several accounts is still small (several thousand euros). But in extreme cases, he would be the one to tell us to stop because it would no longer be convenient, becoming an issue too big for our pockets and also risky.

We therefore need to issue this warning, and the other important thing he told me is that it would be better if we did it as a group (a sort of "class action"), all with the same lawyer and it would be very convenient to divide the costs, lowering the amount to a few tens of euros per person (or rather per account/ID).

As far as I'm concerned, I had a total sum of between 3.5K and 4.5K euros in my three accounts, and I would like to do everything I can to try to recover my fucking money. I also have a friend who is in the same situation, so we're at two. And I'm trying to catch up with other people here and there with the same problem.

So I kindly ask you to let me know if you are interested in recovering this money. As I read, I saw that there are quite a few of us and all of us have not exactly small sums. Do you know (or have talked to) anyone else on this forum? I don't know if I can tag them all in this post, at least tomorrow I'll try to respond to their comments (hoping they'll see the notification).

In the meantime, I remained with the lawyer and we would hear back within a week or so. Let me know, bye!

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8 months ago

Hello. I don't know for sure if any of the players present have already tried to consult with ADM. If not, it's definitely a good first step, I would say. To be honest, a complaint filed through Casino Guru does not solve much in the current situation, and basically it would only have an effect on the SI of this casino. Thank you for the initiative and we will be happy if you continue to inform everyone."🙏👌

Valdivia11
8 months ago

Hi, I'm interested too, what do you need?

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Valdivia11
8 months ago

Hi valdivia11 I see that they still haven't approved the post you mentioned with the lawyer's references...rather than wait for approval I personally will send you my email so you can send me the lawyer's contact details....( passalacquafrancesco15@gmail.com )for the reference to you and the situation in general, what do I tell him? Thanks, see you soon

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8 months ago

But do we also have to bear a cost with this lawyer?

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gonzogin
8 months ago

Obviously yes, but the cost for each account involved will vary depending on how many of us there are. And with certainty there are more than 20 accounts at stake (edit: we are at around 25 and still increasing with other confirmations), these days I will call him back because I have some other questions to ask him and I will write everything here. I'll wait a few more days because I'm waiting for some other users to confirm.

In the meantime, could you tell me how many accounts you had outstanding balances on? And at a rough estimate, how much are the balance figures?

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passalacqua
8 months ago

Hi, no the post was approved but I hadn't written any contact information, not knowing the rules of this forum I avoided it, so as not to end up with a ban in this delicate moment.

But perfect as I have already written, I'll call him again these days to ask him other questions of interest to us and then I'll tell you everything and I'll be able to pass on the contact to you.

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stufo80
8 months ago

HI

For the moment can you tell me how many gaming accounts are involved and the approximate balance figures? (If any account had a few tens of euros you can avoid joining)

In the next few days I will speak with the lawyer again and I will update you on everything.

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Romi
8 months ago

HI

Yes, I and many others have lodged a complaint with ADM, and as a result checks have been carried out on the site in question. But there is no other way to contact ADM, because they only speak to companies and operators by telephone. Furthermore, the Geniuswin.it site is now gone, and the company may have gone bankrupt. So there is no other solution than to contact a lawyer to formally request from the State Monopolies what we are owed.

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Valdivia11
8 months ago

Ok fine...

So for the moment for other updates I'll wait for you when you give me the contact... have a nice day

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Valdivia11
8 months ago

Hi, sorry for the delay, yes, I would be interested too... There are 4 of us and, in total, we are around 6.5/7k.

Thank you so much for your effort and help

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Valdivia11
8 months ago

I issued the warning for only one of the 3 accounts (the one with the highest balance), because since the residence was the same for all 3, I preferred not to complicate things, even if I don't think there are any problems from that point of view. Could you kindly also submit this question of residence to the lawyer when you call him? Many thanks in advance

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Bilegend
8 months ago

Ok I'll take note. Thanks to you, we will update in these days

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MarcoReus
8 months ago

Of course, this was already among the questions I wanted to ask him. Because I also have a couple with the same residence and we are not the only ones, but as you said it shouldn't be a problem. Also because if the site were to disappear due to bankruptcy, the gaming accounts are now extinct and I don't think that ADM will be able to pay attention to these details (at least we hope so).

Rather, I had the idea that Genius had smelled something and when they talked about checks they were referring to the accounts with the same address, but the fact remains that they no longer paid many people. Maybe everyone in this situation didn't pay? It could be, if possible I will investigate this too.

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