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BetVili Casino - Player’s complaining about a technical glitch.

Black points: 66

Amount: €2,250

BetVili Casino
Safety Index:Very low
Submitted: 05 Aug 2021 | Resolved : 29 Sep 2021
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Case summary

3 years ago

The player from Germany experienced a technical glitch when fulfilling the wagering requirements. After quite a long time, the casino and the player found a compromise and the issue was resolved to the player's satisfaction.

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3 years ago
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Good day,

I got a reload bonus of 300% to 400 € (Betvili sent this to the entire customer base) and played it.

As a streamer, I played this bonus online on Twitch and currently had 600 viewers.

I had 2 strong wins and was over € 8000 (the wager was at € 20,600)

A day later I wanted to quit the wager and logged into my account. Over the night, the wager went from € 20,600 to € 2060.

We only played Legacy of Dead in that session and did a grind. This game fulfills the bonus conditions 100% and we did not exceed the max bet of € 5.

So I didn't touch the money anymore after the problem arose and wrote to the affiliate manager via Skype. I was able to do that because I had also advertised this site in the past.

It's been 3 months now and I'm waiting for € 2250. The max cashout was on this bonus € 3000 and we would have achieved this without any problems if the wager had not reset itself.

The casino as well as the manager confirm to us that there was a mistake in the system and that we did not do anything wrong.

Every day we were put off and told, "We'll get in touch tomorrow". As I said, this has been going on since May. I then put some pressure on, because it's just a lot of money and asked every day what happened to it several days / weeks then ignored. The affiliate manager Michael was then supposedly able to clarify something with his superior Tati and confirmed the payment amount of 3000 € to us.

On the positive side, we received a small deposit of € 750 after 2 months and the remaining amount should have come as well, which was not the case. Then yesterday a new update and a call from Michael his account (but it wasn't Michael) but another person who works there. This was called Georg.

He said he had to yell at me and wanted to suggest that if I bring him 6 new players (thus resuming the promotion of Betvili) he would pay me 1000 € and if I bring another 6 players, another 1000 € would get. Which I refused because this bonus had nothing to do with a promotion and we haven't been promoting Betvili since March.

I then told him whether he would be satisfied if he paid in € 250 and was entitled to € 3000 and then I would only give him € 750. Of course not...

I took a screenshot or many screenshots of the entire Betvili site right after it started and it became dubious.

All terms and conditions were screenshoted, we still have the remaining balance of 4700 € on the account and I have about 600 people who can confirm what happened there. Some players wrote to me a day later after the stream and said they had the same problem and the wager also reset itself for these people.

I got an email from Michael and Tati saying that we will receive the payment. I also made a video if he got the idea to delete the chat history on Skype, which confirms what has been written.

Now this Georg writes to me a few minutes ago that I should be satisfied with another 450 €, which I won't do, because if I play a bonus and I manage it and have a maxcashout of 3000 €, then of course I want to have this money . Georg said that I am not a good businessman and wanted to keep making dubious offers and literally yelled at me on the phone and only interrupted me with everything I said to him and was very, very unfriendly. Michael has tried everything that we get our money, but he said that his boss is blocking everything.

Even internal things, that the affiliate accounts have been set to 0, I just noticed. At that time I also had more than 250 € open to commissions from the promoter at the time. I like to forego the € 250 because I will never advertise this casino again after what has happened now. My affiliate account had money on it from Revenue Share, a few days later it was 0 and they just set the numbers from the players to 0 (but that's not the issue). They offer bonuses and if you manage to do them, they can't or won't pay out and then argue with totally nonsensical arguments.

I myself work partially with a network and know all streamers (whether German or English) who live here in Malta and am very well off with a lot of people.

I hope you can help me. Many Thanks.


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3 years ago

Dear DON727,

Thank you for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your bad experience. Do I understand correctly that the casino has paid you out only €750 so far? Is there any other evidence that could help us support this case?

If yes, could you please send me everything that hasn’t been included in the attachments, so we can gather as much information as possible about this case? My email address is kristina.s@casino.guru. I hope, we will help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Kristina

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3 years ago
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Hello Kristina,

I sent you everything I had. I created a desktop recording and recorded the entire Skype history for you. I also uploaded a phone call with what I had recorded after there were only problems and a video from a raid, where you can see how many people have watched playing this balance. There were almost 600 people there who could confirm that.


We are still missing € 2250, which has been agreed on due to the error in the system.

The boss or the head of this site is very, very cold and unfriendly and didn't want to know anything about it, so we recorded the phone call.

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3 years ago

Thank you very much DON727 for your reply and emails. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.

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3 years ago

Hi DON727,

I looked at your case and listened to the records and understand the situation. I have to say, it is a very curious case. I believe it is in the casino's best interest to pay you the winnings. Such behavior from the top management of a casino could push the casino to the edge of a blacklist. I would like to invite BetVili Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.

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3 years ago

Dear client and casino guru team,

We apologize for the delay in this case. As you already know, the winning that you mentioned had a bug and unfortunately, we were not able to investigate the reason for this bug. Therefore, uncertainty regarding this winning stays and is not legitimized. However, we do not want you to be disappointed, we already credited your deposit balance with the amount of 750 EUR (that you already withdraw) and additionally, we are doing a refund of your initial deposit, the amount of 450 EUR. Hope this proposal is satisfactory for you, this is the best we can do to resolve this issue. Will be waiting for your confirmation.


Best regards,


Betvili team,

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3 years ago
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@Betvili, we forwarded the screenshots and the email you sent us, where you can see what was agreed, as we would have managed the wager without problems with the Maxcashout, as we had enough money on the credit side. I think it's a cheek how you try to cheat your customers.

We talked on the phone and you said I was a bad businessman just because I didn't let yourself into this scam on your part. I'm sorry to say so, but we recorded everything!


@CasinoGuru - The credit page was so full that the wager could be done with the Maxcashout and more. So why should I be satisfied with € 450 if I had easily managed the max cashout.

Above all, these dubious offers and then yell at this.

I will not be satisfied with 450 €. We were assured that we would have done everything that we would receive the money in full, which can also be seen in the Skype history. There were discussions about it and the whole thing has now lasted 3 months. Sorry but that's really cheeky ... If you can't withdraw a cashout, you shouldn't run a casino site either.


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3 years ago

Hi all,

Thank you for your replies.

Dear Betvili team,

Based on the evidence provided by DON727 I'm afraid we will have to insist on the payment of the winnings in full. We don't consider the casino's financial problems to be a valid reason for confiscating the player's winnings.

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3 years ago
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Like now, the whole thing has been going on since May! They don't answer, say things that are then changed etc. and yes ... You can see for yourself how important this is to the management at Betvili.

What happens if Betvili doesn't answer? Because I have all the evidence, I have no problem going to the licensing office and bringing in a lawyer! I don't know if it has to be !!!

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3 years ago

Hi DON727,

If the casino won't react or will decide not to pay you, we will close the case as unresolved and the rating of the casino will drop. I recommend you to contact the Curacao Gaming Authority (certria@gaminglicences.com) and submit a complaint to them. It's not the best licensing authority but it has more options and tools to help players.

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3 years ago
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Ok, then I'll do that and do everything I can to ensure that this casino is no longer allowed to hold a license. What is happening there is just not right. Cheating players to get their money is wrong and since I have legal protection, I will use this and send a letter from the lawyer. I myself have good contacts in the iGaming industry and of course I will let them play.


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3 years ago

Hi DON727,

Thank you for your reply. Since the casino stopped responding, the best thing to do now is to contact the Curacao Gaming Authority as mentioned above. You have lots of evidence suggesting blackmailing and threats from the casino owner so I hope they will be able to help you. Please keep me updated (my email address is: peter.m@casino.guru). The complaint will now become "unresolved". I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in rating caused by unresolved complaints may help to change the casino's approach. The rating will change next Wednesday. I wish I could be of more help.

Best regards,

Peter

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3 years ago

We reopened the complaint as per the casino's request. We received the following message:

"We already have agreement with this case and the money will be transferred to customer in two parts."

Dear DON727,

Please let me know when/if you receive your winnings.

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3 years ago
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The money is supposedly transferred, but only after I provide a service for it!

I have agreed and will accept the offer, but I would ask you to please keep the case open until the money has been received!

I will let you know if everything worked or not.

As soon as I get my money, I'll let you know here. Thanks very much

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3 years ago

Hi DON727,

Thanks for your reply, sure I will wait for an update.

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3 years ago
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Nothing has changed so far, we are still waiting for a signed contract and the open payout. I'm just writing that in because the timer is running against us and we want to keep you up to date.


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3 years ago

Hi DON727,

You don't have to worry about the timer, I will set it to 14 days.

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3 years ago

Hi DON727,

Has there been any news?

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3 years ago
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Hello, we have now received the first payment, I will notify you as soon as we have received the second with the same amount, then this case can be closed 🙂

But it's going in the right direction.

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3 years ago

OK DON727, thanks for the info.

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3 years ago
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Hello, the case can be closed.

We were able to resolve this issue indirectly and have received our payments.

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3 years ago

Hi DON727,

Thanks for the update. I'm glad to hear that you found a compromise and your issue got finally resolved. I will now mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution center. Don’t hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.

Best regards

Peter

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